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*Hey err... about Ukraine. If we want to promote hicthhiking, in what language are we going to do that? Ukrainians don't really speak English, I know from personal experience :s And I'm not going to talk about the many benefits of hicthhiking in Russian...--[[User:Banzai|Banzai]] 20:50, 17 August 2008 (CEST) | *Hey err... about Ukraine. If we want to promote hicthhiking, in what language are we going to do that? Ukrainians don't really speak English, I know from personal experience :s And I'm not going to talk about the many benefits of hicthhiking in Russian...--[[User:Banzai|Banzai]] 20:50, 17 August 2008 (CEST) | ||
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Maybe we could put UKRAINE in Top Suggestions, to be chosen: Kiev, Odesa or Lviv?
- + People from many eastern countries could take part - there are not many events where East meets West - it is powerful!
- + not expensive
- + success would stop bad gossip about hitching in Ukr
- - people from non-European countries like Australia and Israel need a visa for the Ukraine.
- +/_ Do you speak russian/ukrainian?? Have to know at least basics.
Contents
Kiev
Cool
- Well known name
- The most cosmopolitan of the three
Not cool
- Far away from the border. The roads are not so good and hitching will be slow.
Odesa
Cool
- Let's go to the beach !! We can do the meeting there.
- Well known name
- Moldavanka Former bohemian district
- Catacombs Photos Video
- Huge sea port, for boat hitchhikers
Not cool
- Hard difficulties to cross the border from Transnistria
- Comment from Julien: Transnitria seems to be the border between Moldova and the general direction of Odesa. There is no border crossing between Romania and the Ukraine south from Moldova/Transnistria.
Lviv
Cool
- SAFER (and easier) access - especially for female hitchhikers!
- Historically international city, lost its spirit after the wars... still the representatives 100 nationalities and ethnic groups live on the territory L'viv
- You can hitch to Lviv speaking only polish - former polish area
Not cool
Comments
- We didn't talk much about Kiev but I talked today with two ukrainian kids, one of them with a HH background that would put Ludo to shame, and they seemed to think Kiev was a better idea. It being more multicultural than the two others.
They were also pretty surprised that Lviv would be elected "most depressive place in Europe". They told me it was a really cute place. Sitarane
- I would suggest any easy and nice to camp at beach location or similar nice nature places - no cities !! Nat-Cho (CS)
- If our aim is to attract public attention, then I believe we need a city. Sitarane
- Sorry for the explication of the ukrainian border, I wanted to put them here but I do a mistake and lost the copy/paste, can you tell about the difficulty to cross again ? Thx Misha22h46, 15 August 2008 (CEST)
- Schengen and Russian citizen at least can go visa free. Sitarane
- Is it not the fashion that anyone will stop to take you in but they expect that you'd pay for the ride? Sitarane
- One Ukrainian girl told me that as well. But then, I heard also that you can hitch without paying, if you explain it and drivers accept it. Mirto
- maybe we could try to find 3 locals from those 3 locations who would explain pros and cons? Mirto
- it would be nice a city with a beach ( and a beautiful sunrise ) that ways like in Paris even waken up by the cops you start with something beautiful in your eye and it's going to be a good day ! but it's going to be hard to find something better than the Eiffel Tower :) xo just kidding
- Kremlin? ;)
- Hey err... about Ukraine. If we want to promote hicthhiking, in what language are we going to do that? Ukrainians don't really speak English, I know from personal experience :s And I'm not going to talk about the many benefits of hicthhiking in Russian...--Banzai 20:50, 17 August 2008 (CEST)
- It's sure that we will be with a lot of russians people and they could do the traduction. Also, we can ask to a lot of ukrainians people who speak english on all the hospitality website to participate at the meeting ! Definitely, language isn't a frontier in that kind of meeting, it will be fun :)
Several parallel hitchhikers gatherings at 7.8.9.
- And now for a completely different concept -
Did you come up with a quite different idea, in which gatherings are organized all over Europe in several countries, for example in five countries or even in twenty countries "(intra-) national" style. For example one event in Portugal/Spain, one in Benelux/France, one in Germany/Poland, one in Scandinavia, one in UK/Ireland, one in Ukraine, one in Russia, one in Czech/Slovak/Austria and so on... Or: one in northern Europe, one in western Europe, one in southern Europe, one in eastern Europe and one in Central Europe.
Cool
- bigger reach of hitchhikers
- clear cooperation / organisation need / tasks / goal for European hitchhikers clubs
- easier participation since the nearest meeting is more nearby, than in case of one gathering place
- more local media attention, supporting the goals
Not so cool
- you might fear (?) the number of hitchhikers is smaller on each meeting
- the real road bums might not like... ;)