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* + not expensive
* + success would stop bad gossip about hitching in Ukr
* - people from non-European countries like Australia and Israel need a visa for the Ukraine.: people from ex-USSR countries need visas for all suggested countries except Ukraine [[User:lucysd]]
* +/_ Do you speak russian/ukrainian?? Have to know at least basics.
*Well known name
*The most cosmopolitan of the three
*Most of English speaking people live there [[User:lucysd]]
===Not cool===
*Far away from the border. The roads are not so good and hitching will be slow.
: Lviv-Kiev road (good traffic, a lot of trucks, direct cars) is much better than Lviv-Odesa one. That one goes through the small towns where you can stuck for the whole day easily. [[User:lucysd]]
*Just like any other Western City, and it is pretty expensive
:: There is a topic on CS [http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=249&post=1520730 explaining] the issues with the border-crossing, giving us the option that does not go through [[Transnitria]]
*Beach: Imagine a beach in the beginning of August, close to a big city - I don't think that 120 hitchhikers could just go there and camp for a couple of days without having problems with people who live from tourism.. But I don't know how many tourists Odessa has..
: there are many 'wild' beaches around the city, we can always go there. E.g. huge empty beaches area 1 hour away from Odesa ([http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=ru&geocode=&q=46%C2%B022'11%22N+++30%C2%B040'12%22E&sll=46.366095,30.727521&sspn=0.008129,0.019312&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=46.250861,30.631599&spn=0.065169,0.154495&z=13 google maps]), and i just googled some other places like this. [[User:lucysd]]
* It's easier to get there for Bolgarian, Romanian, Moldavian, Turkish people compared with going to Kiev/Lviv [[User:lucysd]]
 
=Lviv=
** Why?!
* Not known. "International HH week in Lviv" is not like "International HH week in... er... Munich or something" - [[User:Sitarane]]
: I thought Lviv is better known than Odesa as it lays on the way from Western Europe to the East --[[User:Sitarane]]
* Only 60km from Polish border - no possibility to 'explore' Ukraine on the way to Lviv if you're coming from the West [[User:lucysd]]
 
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