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Somebody completely vandalized this previously amazing page. No clue why, but I'm reverting it to it's original state which was way more detailed and way better. Source: I live in Zagreb and hitchhike from it very often
== Hitchhiking out ==
=== Direction Karlovac, [[Rijeka]], [[Pula]], [[Zadar]], Šibenik and [[Split]], Dalmatia ===
[[File:Zagreb_t0ma5.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Street that leads to the Lučko toll station]] To get to the ''Lučko'' ramp (toll station) on the motorway you have to catch tram #4 or #7 and get out at stop ''Savski most'', or #5, #14,or #17 and get out at stop "St. dom Stjepan Radić". Savski most a bus terminal where you can catch buses #111 or #132. These buses pass by the pay tolls "Lučko". Get off after 15 minutes of ride approx. or ask the driver to tell you where. You can recognise it yourself though, it's a sort of big restaurant "Calypso". Once you get off you will see that one road goes over the bridge - take the other road that doesn't go over the bridge, take first left and go through the parking lot and voila! you're there. If you are going to ''Dalmatia'' (Zadar, Split, etc.) don't take rides to Rijeka because it is a bit out of your way. Car plates for each city: Pula and Istria (PU), Rijeka (RI) Zadar (ZD) Šibenik (ŠI) Split (ST). It should be very easy to get a ride from there.
 [[File:Zagreb_t0ma5.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Street that leads to the Lučko toll station]]  To get to the ''Lučko'' ramp (toll station) on the motorway you have to catch tram #4 or #7 and get out at stop ''Savski most'', or #5, #14,or #17 and get out at stop "St. dom Stjepan Radić". Savski most a bus terminal where you can catch buses #111 or #132. These buses pass by the pay tolls "Lučko". Get off after 15 minutes of ride at bus stop Put Za Leskovac . You can recognise a big restaurant "Calypso". Once you get off you will see that one road goes over the bridge - take the other road that doesn't go over the bridge, take first left and go through the parking lot and voila! you're there.  Also if you walk a bit highway forward you get on the Crodux petrol station. There is less traffic than on tolls. If you are going to ''Dalmatia'' (Zadar, Split, etc.) don't take rides to Rijeka because it is a bit out of your way. Car plates for each city: Pula and Istria (PU), Rijeka (RI) Zadar (ZD) Šibenik (ŠI) Split (ST). *'' I followed the ınstructıons instructions about the bus to go to the Lucko toll statıonstation. The bus drıver driver was very frıendly and explaıned explained me where to get off. From the busstop towards the toll statıon ıs station is 10 mınutes minutes walk. I fırst trıed first tried at the toll statıon station for one hour wıth with no luck. Then ı I changed strategy and I walked towards the fırst gas statıon behınd first petrol station behind the toll statıonstation. Here you can fınd find more shade facılıtıes facilities and cleaner aırair. Also you are able to talk to drıversdrivers. Most of the cars where tourısts wıth with no space left. It took me 3 hours to fınd a dırect rıde direct ride to SplıtSplit. But ıt it was worth ıtit. Allthough Although there ıs is less traffıc traffic at the gas statıon petrol station I belıeve ıt ıs believe it is a better optıon option than the toll statıonstation. Good Luck. May 2012. Len ''
*" I'm always lucky with this spot, no matter where I am heading. I wait about 5-10 minutes when going to Rijeka and about 20-30 when going to Zadar, Šibenik or Split. But then again, I'm a girl. HAVE A SIGN with car plates of the city you're going to. December 2012, Nina_Unexia "
 
*" July 2015: spot worked well. There's a lot of police around, but they seemed not to care at all. Be careful of getting dropped on one of the rest areas though, there are quite many so traffic isn't very heavy on each one, and in the summertime almost all traffic is fully loaded vacation cars heading for the coast. The best rest stop before the highway split at Bosiljevo is probably Draganic, as it has both a Burger King and a Marche Bistro. We were stuck at Vukova Gorica rest area for hours."
*" Even though the ticket inspectors are more common now and the bus drivers control if you have the ticket, these buses (#111 and #132) are almost always crowded so you can still sneak in without buying a ticket. April 2014, Nina_Unexia "
Further to the above directions, you'll stay on tram 14 until it's crossed the river, then find yourself on the lower level of a motorway roundabout junction. You have several possible exits under bridges. When you get off the tram with the river to your back, go right. You'll see a Billa supermarket and a McD's. There is a slip road there with a decent dirt layby where cars can pull in. Have a sign that reads 'LUCKO' and you'll easily get a lift to the toll station five minutes up the road. From there it's easy pickings. --[[User:Looking for Stu|Looking for Stu]] ([[User talk:Looking for Stu|talk]]) 10:42, 14 May 2013 (CEST)
 
*" July 2017 : I were in this spot and i have some advices . Really really really avoid WEEKENDS ! I were there a saturday and the jam were incredible with cars and vans full of people and staffs from many europenas countries heading to croitian costs. I didn't found a problem for the stop of the bus because we were 10 or 12 people( all locals except me) heading to split and other destinations. I waited maybe 2 or 3 hours in a very hot day , so i went to the petrol station 200 metres from the poll station to refresh , and some local news catch me for interview xD . My ride was fun because both of us spoke about sports and football ;)) . he was nice and ride me to Zadar poll station, so i took another stop from there to the bus station (10 minutes) . Good luck and from my personal opinion ovoid weekend guys !
=== Direction [[Osijek, Slavonski Brod]], [[Belgrade]] and [[Bosnia and Herzegovina|Bosnia]] ===
__TOC__THEY MOVED TOLL STATION 8KM TOWARDS EAST, so going to Dumovec is no longer a good option. Get on a bus #216 or #276 from Kvaternikov trg and get off at a stop called ''Ivanjorečka pošta'' (post office in Ivanja Reka), cross the street and follow the road going on the right, it's called ''Rimski put'', it will take you straight to Tifon gas petrol station. There you can ask drivers to take you to the toll station (in croatian: naplatne kućice) or hitch on the road.
'''THE BEST OPTION'' to Serbia and Hungary'
* First option is outdated and deleted. Look up for updated version.
* Second option is to get the tram #2, #3 or #13 to ''Savišće'' or ''Žitnjak''. Get out at the last stop and then walk for about 15 minutes towards the motorway. On the motorway you'll find a bus stop and there you can easily hitchhike towards the on-ramp in ''Ivanja Reka'' or you can even stop cars who are going to Belgrade or Bosnia. Ask the locals for extra tips and explanations.
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- [[User:Chillion|Chillion]] (2018) This method is good. About 5-10mins before the bus stops (there are two on the same Street), is a church where you can fill up your water bottles at the tap inside the church yard. When I hitched from the bus stop I had both "Slavonska Brod" and "Ivanja Reka" signs. After using both, the latter sign got me a ride in 5 mins, taking me to the town of Ivanja, where I was dropped off on the highway in the direction of Serbia. Got to Serbia that same day (1 car and 2 truck rides).
''[[User:nuclearphyllis|Nuclearphyllis]]' local experts took him to the first toll station on the Zagreb-Belgrade motorway, even though it was illegal to hitchhike from there. They weren't troubled and got a ride within 10 minutes.''
 
* Third option, go to Savski most and get on IKEA bus. It will take you to IKEA, and this is right on the highway to Belgrade, next to Dumovec. This bus ticket costs 10 kuna and you can use 5 kuna discount in IKEA for food or coffee.
Bus leaves Savski most station at Mon-Sat: 9:00, 10:00, 12:00, 14:00, 16:00, 18:00
(Read below, this one doesn't exist anymore! The best option is on the bottom - to HH on Slavonska avenija ) Take bus number 216 from Kvaternikov trg to the last stop in Ivanja Reka or bus 276 till 2 stations before the final station. Ask for the church in Ivanja Reka, people will know it, you should get out there. There will be a small road which leads to the on ramp, ask people for which one it is. You should walk till the traffic lights, the turn right and you already see the place. After the lights you should walk about 300 meters and you can start hitching there with a sign VZ for example. Works like a charm, someone waited there for less than 10 minutes.<br />
[[User:NixyJungle|NixyJungle]] edit: No need to walk 300 meters after traffic lights. You can ask people on the traffic light. It's easier and more safe, plus, if the police comes, you are legal, because sign for the beginning of the highway and forbidden hitchhiking is 200 meters after the traffic light.
 
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'''Update''': This place doesn't exist anymore, as the new road was built and there's no stopping lane, so cars can't stop to pick you up. Don't hitchhike here.
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'''Update - april 2012''': There is able to hitchhike there, last year I was there, but it is '''very hard to get out of there'''. You need reach ''petrol station'' and the exit from station has got long shoulder where U can safely try to cach someone.
Three problems:
#90% of cars which stop are those which leave the station.
#From those who stops almost everyone was local people.
#It was my one of the longest stops (no less than 3 houers).
1st'''Update''': The main problem with direction towards Hungary is that pay tolls are quite far away from Zagreb, so it would be easier if you first get to the pay tolls. The best starting point is the "Tifon" petrol station as it's the furthest hitchhiking spot on the way to Varaždin and Budapest you can get to by public transportation (directions to there are already described in the directions to Belgrade section on the top of this topic - bus 216 or 176 from Kvaternikov trg...) and hold a sign "ZELINA" (the closest town to the pay tolls) or "SV. 90% HELENA" (the exact name of cars which stop are those which leave that pay tolls). Many drivers get off the highway just before the stationpay tolls, so maybe you'll have to walk a few kilometers. But once you're there, you can easily get a ride straight to Budapest.
2ndSecond option is to hitchhike on Slavonska avenija, this way you dont have to take any public transportation. You can stand after the crossroad of Slavonska avenija and Ulica Josipa Marohnića. Many people go towards the highway on this road. We hitchhiked with the sign "Sesvete", got a ride in 15 mins and got dropped at the petrol station right in front of highway ramps in Ivanja Reka. From those who stops almost everyone was local peoplehere we hitchhiked with sign "Varazdin" and got a ride in 15-20 mins and got dropped at the pay tolls towards north.
3rdNote: this (the crossing of Slavonska avenija and Ul. Ulica Josipa Marohnića) seems to be the best and easiest option. Many cars in the direction, there're traffic lights + lot of space for cars to stop. It was my one From the central square (Trg bana Josipa Jelačića) you can either walk (southwards, 3km) or take trams 14 (direction ZAPRUĐE) or 17 (direction BORONGAJ) for 15mins till the stop Vjesnik. The stop is near the crossing of Savska cesta and Slavonska avenija, so you have to walk 10min till the longest stops spot where Ul. Ulica Josipa Marohnića is. You can hold sign VŽ (no less than 3 houersVaraždin).Once you get a ride and are on the highway, be sure to get off at the first petrol station (OMV, some 20kms from the starting point), because it's also the last one before Varaždin!
[[User:Gallar|Gallar]] hitch-hiked (with girlfriend) from crossroad of Slavonska avenija and Ulica Josipa Marohnića and he waited 9 hours just for a single lift to mentioned OMV station. It might be bad luck, but be aware there is no better place to hike and yet this one might be not so perfect.
Note: This can't be a good hitchhiking spot by any reason as it's too much inside the town and there'Update''': The main problem with direction towards Hungary is that pay tolls s too much of local traffic, also there are quite far away from more cars coming to Zagreb, so it would be easier if you first get to the pay tolls. Use the place allready described on the top of this topic (bus 216 or 176 from Kvaternikov trg) and hold a sign "ZELINA" (the closest town west than those departing to the pay tolls) or "SV. HELENA" (the exact name of that pay tolls)east. Many drivers get off the highway just before the pay tollsHowever, so maybe youit'll have to walk few kilometers. But once you're s not impossible, but getting a lift there, you can easily get in a ride straight to Budapestnormal time is more about the luck...
Second option is Update: I think the best spot to hitchhike from is the gas station on Slavonska avenija110, this way you dont have to take any public transportation. You can stand after get there by taking 286 bus and walking for like 15 mins, even though it's like 40 mins from the crossroad city centre but there is plenty of Slavonska avenija room to stop, also I dont recommend going to Varazdin and Ulica Josipa Marohnića. Many people go towards the highway on this road. We hitchhiked with the sign "Sesvete", got hoping to get a ride in 15 mins and got dropped at the petrol station right in front of toll booth going to the highway ramps in Ivanja Rekabecause the traffic is pretty small there and mainly not towards budapest. From here we hitchhiked with sign "There is a gas station before Varazdin" (like 10 km) and we got a ride from there in 15-20 like 5 mins and got dropped at the pay tolls towards northJune 2019
Note: this (Another good option is to take the crossing of Slavonska avenija and Ultram until Dubec. Ulica Josipa Marohnića) seems to be the best and easiest option At least 3 different lines end there. Many cars in the direction, Once you get there're traffic lights + lot of space look for cars a bus going to stopSesvete. From the central square (Trg bana Josipa Jelačića) There will most likely be many people trying to board and you can either walk (southwards, 3km) or should be able to enter from any door. The ride shouldn’t take trams 14 (direction ZAPRUĐE) or 17 (direction BORONGAJ) more then 10 minutes and you will find it makes a left turn followed by two right turns soon after. for 15mins till This is where you want to get off and cross the street. (Veraždinska cesta; bus stop Vjesnik. Selčina) The bus stop on this side is near slightly further up the road. You will then want bus 273 going to Lužan. (Someone entered this bus from the middle door as well.) Take bus 273 to the crossing end of Savska cesta and Slavonska avenija, so you have to walk 10min till the spot where Ulline. Ulica Josipa Marohnića From here it isjust a 3. You can hold sign VŽ (Varaždin)2 kilometer walk to the first gas station directly on the highway. Once There is a gravel road after you cross over the highway which you get can easily reach by going a ride couple hundred meters past the highway. (No need to try and are on cross the highway, be sure ditch to get off at reach it.) As you approach the first gas station (OMV, some 20kms from fence and the road turns to lead around the back you will see a gap where you can easily hop the fence and follow a well formed path directly to the starting point), because it's also parking lot. It should be just a handful of meters after the last one before Varaždin!curve and very easy to notice.
[[User:Gallar|Gallar]] hitch-hiked (with girlfriend) from crossroad There are also plenty of Slavonska avenija and Ulica Josipa Marohnića good places where one can pitch a tent for the night if one wants to come out here in the evening and he waited 9 hours just for get a single lift to mentioned OMV station. It might be bad luck, but be aware there is no better place to hike nice and yet this one might be not so perfectearly start the following morning.
=== Direction [[Ljubljana]], [[Austria]], [[Novo Mesto]] ===
Take tram #5 or #17 from the centre of Zagreb towards the ''Precko''. Notice that the ride takes a lot of time, 45 minutes at least. In ''Precko'', exit the tram and walk left. You'll see a street that turns right. Take this street and walk 5 minutes till you get to the main street ''Ljubljanska Avenija'' (also called ''Zagrebacka Avenija''). Cross this street in front of the ''Konzum'' supermarket and turn left. You will see a small bus station, this is your spot. However most people commute from this point. Best is to hitchhike from there with a SLO sign. Don't take rides that don't take you at least to the border - There is no good places to hitchhike further down the road. From the border crossing itself it's relatively easy to get a good ride, even as far as to Austria.
On a [[Good times to hitchhike|Sunday]] Erga and [[User:Guaka|guaka]] waited way to long. Not a single car stopped in two hours time, and at the gas petrol stations everyone with space pretended not to go anywhere near Slovenia (West or North). Two Belgian guys didn't manage to get a ride in the same period, also trying in different spots in the area ([[User:Guaka|guaka]] somehow convinced the West Gate bus driver to also pick them up). Use the West Gate option if you're simply heading to Austria, find another solution if you're heading towards Ljubljana...
After more than one hour of waiting, I went further down the road to the next bus stop (in front of FORD car dealer center) where most of the local traffic is gone and I found a ride after 15min.
 
* I recommend following this advice, after going to the Konzum market to get some food and cardboard I spent only 40 mn before someone offered to take me to Slovenia. You are highly visible and this worked at dawn.
 
'''INA Lučko - north'''
 
INA Lučko - north is a big rest stop just outside Zagreb, and it takes quite a long time to come there from the city center. You have to take a tram to Savski most and then bus line 112 or 168 to Lučko centar. Don't panic when you won't see any shopping center as you expect, this place looks like a village;) from there, you walk for about 2km to reach the stop.
 
It is good place to hitchhike and locals told me that's where everybody goes. For me it took whole 3.5h to get a pick (december 2019), but it was one day before christmas, so the place was deserted. I got a direct ride to Ljubljana after all, so i can recommend.
'''Take a bus to the highway'''
This option takes you a bit longer to get started with (nearly an hour), it takes you directly to the highway though.
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== Much better option to Slovenia ==
'''Take a bus number 112 from "Savski most" bus station. Get of the bus at the last station. You should see highway from that place. If you don't, ask for the direction. Above highway you will see an overpass. Go to the opposite side and hitchhike there at the entrance of the road. There is a gas petrol station with many cars entering the highway. If it's easier for you, it is a place called Motel Plitvice and it's here https://goo.gl/maps/eM865 (by [[User:NixyJungle|NixyJungle]]) Caution: On a Sunday check the [http://www.zet.t-com.hr/media/144255/112nnn.pdf schedule for bus 112], since it does not depart very frequently that day - [[User:Questrayer|Questrayer]] had to wait for about 80 minutes. Apart from that, this option is very good, and he got a ride all the way to Ljubljana within 15 minutes approaching people at the petrol station.
=== North, direction [[Maribor]], [[Graz]], [[Vienna]] ===
==== First option ====From the Črnomerec and Ljubljanica bus terminal there's a free bus (red or white colorcolour) to West Gate shopping center centre which is adjacent to toll station [http://westgate.com.hr/index.php?lan=cr&id=220](check out the West Gate Zagreb page to find out its schedule), see also [http://maps.google.com/?q=zagreb&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=City+of+Zagreb,+Croatia&ll=45.874518,15.829003&spn=0.009815,0.02459&t=h&z=16 Google Maps], the toll station is very close to the shopping center, you can see it from the parking lot where the bus arrives. But you will have to cross a bit of water. Don't try this in the dark. Look for one of the areas with stones covered by metal or just walk about 300 metre in opposite direction of the shopping mall and you will find a little bridge, handy! then come back to the toll station.
If you're heading to [[Slovenia]] or further you'll have to make it to the [[Macelj-Kozminci border crossing]], from where you can easily get rides far into [[Germany]].
[[User:Cro_gavran|Cro_gavran]] tried to hitchhike here in September 2014 but was in just few minutes forced to leave by highway guards. They said that same day they moved out from highway already 5 hitchhikers and called police to arrest two who didnt wanted to leave the highway. If someone else had same experience, please share.
As alternative[[User:Uncle sam01|uncle_sam01]] hitched a direct ride to Bratislava in about 20 minutes in August 2015. Definitely wouldn't recommend going over the bridge, try since the right side is virtually impossible to get Plitvice petrol station walk towards the highway (bushes, trees, water, weeds, etc.). In August 2015 there was only a relatively short fence, which was easy to climb over but you must cross the highway, which is obviously not the safest thing to confuse with famous National park!)do, but cars go slow and there are no barriers in the middle. It is reachable No one bothered us, except some maintenance guy in a pick up who was driving by, but we couldn't make out what he was saying and no one from Lučko trough the village. It is around 3 km walktoll booths told us anything even though they clearly saw us hitching.
== Resources ===== Sleeping ===For decent camping--[[User:Yeguaerrante|Yeguaerrante]] ([[User talk:Yeguaerrante|talk]]) 13:05, take tram #6 from 18 November 2015 (CET) You can't get to the central train toll station to Crnomerec, continue walking down Ilica a hundred metres or soit's all fenced, turn Right i waited on Kustosijancathe road after going for the blue small bridge, you will see a bridge that crosses the highway, a car pick me up after 20 min and walk up this street for two hundred meters past an old train trestle. There is easy access took me to small town area, was really hard to trails in get into the woods and decent places to camp without being disturbedhighway this way because there was a lot of locals not going too far away.
To be deeper --[[User:Duffajfka|Duffajfka]] walked from the shopping centre along D1 in nature but still quite close the direction back to Zagreb until the highway ramp to the townnorth. As it's a two lane one with not too dense traffic, take tram #14 he tried to Mihaljevachitchhike from the guardrail with a sign "Odmorište" (service area), and then #15 probably "Naplatna Postaja" (toll booth) would be easier. As he has already been inside the fence, he walked to the last stoptoll booth. It was quite a hard walk, but probably worth it. Continue further through Tried to hitch right from the gates but was expelled by the tunelstaff few tens of meters behind the booth, and then you'll find yourself where a car to Graz easily stopped in a huge forest with contless spots for camping20 mins.(May 2019) === Internet access === Free wifi in As alternative, try to get Plitvice petrol station (not to confuse with famous National park!). It is reachable from Lučko trough the center of the cityvillage. It is around 3 km walk.
Club Mama, 'net.culture.club' is an open space with a cool library of technical, cultural, and revolutionary books, wifi, and frequent talks and skillshares. Ulica Petra Preradovićeva 18, at the back of a square between buildings. http://www.mi2.hr/==== Second option ====
Optima Telekom centarInstead of the seemingly risky toll station, Savska 5 has free Internet access for advertising purposes so you can just come in say hello also get a bus to people who work there and go King Cross shopping center or simply walk along Ljubljanska avenija until you reach the on -ramp of the Internethighway. They are mostly friendly The spot is an approach road of a nearby, not very frequented truck park and offers great visibility and you can surf as long as you wantspace to pull over for bypassing drivers. You can [[User:Vapaakulkuri|vapaakulkuri]] however still had to wait about two hours to get a ride to the first gas station that location by taking tram 2, 4, or 9 from Main train station (glavni kolodvor) and make sure to get out on Vodnikova and walk few metres until you are on Savska ulica. Then go left and after 1-2 minutes you will see Optima Telekom center on your right sideis located about 20km down the road.
The National Library of Croatia is approximately one km south of the train station. Open until 20:00 on weekdays, 15:00 on Saturday, it provides power outlets, wifi, and access to public computers.== Trashwiki & Nomadwiki ==
=== Public transport ===Black-riding is possible and most of people in [[trash:Zagreb who don't have monthly or yearly tickets do this in trams and in buses there is almost no control. Controllers are sometimes all over the town but mostly there is nobody for months. There are in groups of 2-3 wearing blue uniform just like the driver so if you see them just get out and wait another tram. Playing the "dumb tourist" will work because they don't have authority to ask you passport or your id and if you give them your passport they can't send you a bill to your home because you are not citizen of Croatia. Also they will not call police because there are city owned company and controllers have fixed paychecks so they don't give a damn too much.]] [[nomad:Zagreb]]
=== Eating ===
Zagreb is full of students who have iksica (electronic card with which they can eat whole lunch witch soup, meat and juice for less than a euro). So if you want you can go to studentski centar (savska 25) by taking trams 2, 4 or 9 from main train station (Glavni kolodvor) to Vodnikova cross the street and go right for 5-6 minutes until you reach big open space with cafe bar and lots of people moving around. Just ask somebody on the entrance to lend you their iksica and most of people will do it. Also if you are cold and you want to you can stay in Studentski centar until 21:00 and on the first floor are some couches where you can take a nap. homeless people sometimes sleep there. You can get there from main square (Jelacic platz) taking trams 17, 14 to Studentski centar station or 12 to Technical museum station (Technical museum and Studentski centar stations are practically the same stations) and just across the street is Studentski centar.
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