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Frank,

It might be useful to split up your page into various smaller per-subject (log-)pages. The current page is impossibly long... [[User:Prino|Prino]] 20:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)--[[User:Roelguldemond|Roelguldemond]] ([[User talk:Roelguldemond|talk]]) 10:16, 13 December 2013 (CET)

Yes Robert, that's a good suggestion. :) --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 09:43, 30 October 2012 (CET)

Frank, when you delete spam pages, change the description in the "Other/additional reason:" box to just "Spam" and don't forget to block the user who posted it. You may also want to "bot"-ise the change on the [http://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesCleanup Recent Changes Cleanup] page, so that the Recent Changes page only shows relevant data. [[User:Prino|Prino]][http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]] 11:25, 9 December 2013 (CET)

: Thanks. How to "botise" these six changes I just made from Recent changes page, Prino?

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(Deletion log); 07:24 . . Fverhart (Talk | contribs | block) deleted page Remy real hair extensions, Clip in human hair extensions ‎(Spam)

(Deletion log); 07:24 . . Fverhart (Talk | contribs | block) deleted page How to save cost with company vehicles? ‎(Spam)

(Block log); 07:24 . . Fverhart (Talk | contribs | block) blocked Sockrefund0 (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled, email disabled) ‎

(Block log); 07:23 . . Fverhart (Talk | contribs | block) blocked Bestvaporizer18 (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled, email disabled) ‎

(Block log); 07:22 . . Fverhart (Talk | contribs | block) blocked Braydenstar83 (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled, email disabled) ‎

--[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 08:25, 13 December 2013 (CET)

== Reactie op Frank's welkomstwoord ==

Frank dank voor je welkomstwoord op mijn versaangemaakte userpagina.

Ik ben overigens ook vaker lang van stof.

En neig teveel hooi op mijn vork te nemen.

Met betrekking tot deze hitchwiki, wil ik niet veel gaan toevoegen.

Maar de pagina's over Lille zijn rijp voor betere structurering.

Ten behoeve van betere leesbaarheid.

Mijn zoon, een twenner, komt volgende week met een vriend naar Lille.

Dan willen ze naar Parijs door liften.

Hij is afgelopen zomer plotseling met liften begonnen.

Blijkbaar smaakt het hem naar meer.

En ik vind het een mooie aanleiding om eens een kleine bijdrage te leveren aan deze hitchwiki.

Die ik overigens nooit gebruik; ik voel me een oude, door economische situatie, herintredend in het liftersgilde.

Tot slot tik ik hieronder mijn indruk van de wiki:

Wat een rommeltje!

Ik ben voel me niet lekker op dergelijke rommelige, versnipperde informatie.

Wat een enthousiasme ook bij de mensen die zich inzetten om de wiki naar een hoger niveau te tillen ...

(en ik hoop dat dit nu een goede plek is om te reageren op je welkomstwoord)

== Crossable rest areas in various countries ==

Did you actually test all crossings yourself? Or just used Google Maps?

And, already changed, it's Pedestrian Bridge (and not Pedestrians Bridge) ;)

: Hi Prino, please, don't forget to add the signature in User talk ;)

: Much of this is Google maps + streetview which is not always 100% up to date and, not to forget, observations on the road (without testing the possibility).

: Testing has the advantage of knowing if gates in fences are locked or not - my experience is that fences made for letting people on foot through are not locked (tried that in NL, F, CH, LUX), but they might be locked (e.g. Aire la Courneuve, A1, Paris-Aubervilliers) or the situation might change (doors in noise barriers in NL are nowadays only accessible for going out, which as an example made entering service station Meerssen (a.k.a. De Kruisberg) just north of Maastricht on the A2 impossible.

: Foot bridges and foot tunnels sound miraculous, but those might be closed temporarily (e.g. service station just west of Linz in A, personal experience, and various cases in Italy, as seen on Google streetview with signs "foot tunnel closed"). Or they might not be open 24/24. --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 13:27, 13 April 2015 (CEST)

== Tables ==

Waarom nog steeds geen sortable tables met echte html, zodat je het ooit op een eigen site kan zetten? [[User:Prino|Prino]][http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]] 09:31, 14 April 2015 (CEST)

: Is niet gepland, maar er zitten wel een paar sortables op User:Fverhart. De bestaande gegevens updaten is al genoeg werk ;) --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 13:49, 11 May 2015 (CEST)

== Er is een "Preview" button ==

Maar waarom gebruik je hem niet? [[User:Prino|Prino]][http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]] 01:41, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

: Gebruik 'm echt wel, maar ik ben geen robot, dus soms / regelmatig doe ik nog wat na-editen. Beter dan die kleine foutjes laten staan. Heb je er last van en zo ja, waarom heb je er last van. --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 10:13, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

:: Geen last, maar als de granddaddy of hitchhike statistics volg ik je pagina, en het is irritant(ish) om niet alle changes in een keer te zien. [[User:Prino|Prino]][http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]] 21:20, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

== 24 uurs tabel ==

== 24 hrs Personal Record history ==

The table below shows how my best 24 hours hitch-hiking distance has evolved.

<th align="left">distance</th>

<th align="left">trip speed</th>

<th align="left">ride speed</th>

<th align="left">vehicles</th>

<th align="left">avg distance</th>

</tr>

<tr>

<td align="left">Meribel les Allues</td>

<td align="left">Meribel Mottaret</td>

</tr>

<tr>

<td align="left">Ausson</td>

<td align="left">Col de Rousset</td>

</tr>

<tr>

<td align="left">Meerssen</td>

</tr>

<tr>

<td align="left">Aachen Rothe Erde</td>

<td align="left">Frankfurt an der Oder</td>

</tr>

<tr>

<td align="left">Bocholtz</td>

<td align="left">Piotrków Tr.</td>

</tr>

<tr>

<td align="left">Šibenik</td>

<td align="left">Sinsheim</td>

</tr>

<tr>

<td align="left">Šibenik</td>

<td align="left">Garbsen</td>

</tr>

</table>

Of, als je de dd.mm.yyyy data wilt houden:

== Rides of over 250 kms ==

Table is completely eff'ed up... Something wrong with the order of your opening and closing HTML tags. [[User:Prino|Prino]][http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]] 15:38, 22 September 2015 (CEST)

: Corrected the html, sort of distance is still wrong, you need hidden right-aligned text spans. Look at my tables! [[User:Prino|Prino]][http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]] 15:57, 22 September 2015 (CEST)

:: And sorry, I may have messed up some Unicode names in my non-Unicode compliant editor. Apologies. [[User:Prino|Prino]][http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]] 15:59, 22 September 2015 (CEST)

:Isn't it about time you start thinking about a somewhat higher cut-off, like over 300/350/400 km? 250 km may have been exciting but with now plenty of (much) longer rides it's not that long any more... [[User:Prino|Prino]][http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]] 23:32, 31 May 2016 (CEST)

:: Wordt het geen tijd om naar bedje te gaan Robertje? ;) --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 23:37, 31 May 2016 (CEST)

::: And more on topic: now that I'm hitching less in Germany in favor of France, the 250 km limit has actually become a lot more exciting; France 10 out of 127 rides over 250 km (less than 10%) - in Germany 52 out of 277 (close to 20%)... As for quickly collecting 250+ km rides, try east-west motorways of Poland and Germany... the 250+ rides there are both NOT rare and the average speeds are high so that collecting goes quicker! --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 23:50, 31 May 2016 (CEST)

== Crossable rest areas ==

Hey Frank, First of all, great idea! Dunno if it was yours, but I'm in awe :-) Second of all: Where do you get the information from? OSM? Thirdly: I imagine that there is much less service areas where you can NOT cross. True? If so, wouldn't it make sense to add a list of the no-no ones for easy reference? all the best--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] ([[User talk:Zenit|talk]]) 15:13, 27 September 2015 (CEST)

: Info is mostly from Google streetview / maps, http://motorways-exitlists.com/europe/europe.htm and (for France) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_autoroutes_de_la_France. There is a page with all bridge restaurants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_restaurant. I imagine that not all bridge restaurants crossings are open 24/24. But the job is big. Yes, it makes sens to have a list of not crossable stations. Or in other words lists of all stations, crossable or not. Or to integrate crossability with exit lists on Hitchwiki. But, too much work. --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 15:21, 27 September 2015 (CEST)

:: Hm, I'm most convinced by integrating them with the exit lists. Good idea. Are you aware of how complete the exit lists are for the countries for which there are crossability lists up to now? It would be cool to design a little template the size of the hitchability template with a symbol in green (crossable) and in red (not crossable). I don't have the technical skills to make this happen, but I'd be happy to help migrating lists to exit lists. --[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] ([[User talk:Zenit|talk]]) 15:58, 27 September 2015 (CEST)

::: The exit lists on Hitchwiki I guess are not very complete and have been made more or less haphazard. Best would be to work out everything, but do you know what a shitload of work that is. For the sake of ease I only list the crossable stations for now. Perhaps, in the future, when the lists are complete (mid 2016 ;) - other things. Adding color icons to the crossability list is an idea and perhaps not hard to implement. A service station crossable in 60 minutes makes me less happy than one which has a pedestrian bridge. But I'd rather not rate them. How would we rate service stations for both directions situated on one side of the motorway... or, even worse, situated in the middle of a junction of two motorways (Raststaette Voralpenkreuz in Austria)... ;) Probably later this year though, we (Hitchwiki) would need help of editors to fix the planned merging of Hitchwiki and Hitchwiki maps. So if you wanna help, feel most welcome. --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 17:52, 27 September 2015 (CEST)

:::: hmm... I don't quite know what kind of work that involves. Also I don't know where I will be in relation to computers later this year :-) as to rating the crossability, I would vote for doing it anyway and finding a contingency for those special cases. I'd probably just either not rate same-side stations or rate them with the same symbol as a direct bridge or tunnel. then I'd have a second symbol for having to use an access road, and a symbol for not crossable. green, yellow, red. the really complicated ones I'd not rate, but explain in text. I'm not familiar with Voralpenkreuz, but just looking at OSM, where would you even want to cross to there? :-) but I get yarr point. --[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] ([[User talk:Zenit|talk]]) 19:43, 27 September 2015 (CEST)

::::: For one sided stations for both directions crossability is not relevant as they can always be crossed, but on average the hitchability is about one class higher on the side the station is actually on. Generally to be avoided if possible though ;). Got your point too, thanks. For now, would continue as before, keeping in mind to 1. add the ones that can't be crossed the list, 2. add dots for crossability and 3. add numbers of nearest exits (which I've started for the page of France) as these will help a lot to look up the right stations (although that info is included on Wikipedia pages and Motorway exit lists). Shall we keep it like this for now? Or actually, if you like to, you could if you have time and would be up for it add the info under points 1 and 3. For the crossability dots, we would need to work out a system. --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 00:01, 28 September 2015 (CEST)

So I just went ahead and created these: {{crossable green}} {{crossable yellow}} {{crossable red}} What do you think? The text displayed upon mouse-over might be improvable. As it is, I actually wonder if the by-country gas station crossability lists are really necessary if we just integrated crossability & the detailed information on how to into the exit lists (it's quite perfect, because afaik the exit list tables have an empty box in between the respective gas stations anyway). On the other hand side of course it'd be a pity to just get rid of them after all the work you've put into them. Maybe keep them as country-overviews on all the highway gas stations rather than just for crossability?--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] ([[User talk:Zenit|talk]]) 14:28, 28 September 2015 (CEST)

: Great pictograms! Not all Euro motorways are listed on Hitchwiki's exit pages, e.g. those in the UK, Spain, Slovakia, Hungary and Lithuania are not. Am not motivated to create those. Transform crossability pages into completely lists with all stations - perhaps we'll see. Not all exit lists have an empty box between them, in some the stations are in the central column. Guess those are the "one side, serving both directions" stations - so it's all still perfect. Anyway here is the bottom line - I'm not going to spend days and days on this, although I do, so I just do, when I want to. That might mean that I only do what I'm motivated to do ;) --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 18:15, 28 September 2015 (CEST)

::Whaat.. you're only gonna do what you're motivated to do? You anarchist! :P I might be motivated to start updating the exit lists for some central European countries such as Germany, France or Switzerland. I guess I'll follow your work of adding also the ones that are non-crossable and then just carry the whole batch across to the exit list. :-) Thanks again for your work!--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] ([[User talk:Zenit|talk]]) 20:14, 28 September 2015 (CEST)

:: I created all the articles of the motorways and like to make more. But in Spain I got some problems and need some talk to hitchhikers, who have experience in Spain. * {{Aes|A-7}} counts kilometers from west to north and {{Aes|AP-7}} counts kilometers from north to west, and for parts they are parallel and for parts they change from one to another. How I can connect them? * Is there a need to write up all motorways around Madrid? They build a web, where I cannot see through. * At some motorways the service stations or private petrol stations reside on 20 kilometers long sideroads. Are these important for hitchhiking? --[[User:GeorgDerReisende|GeorgDerReisende]] ([[User talk:GeorgDerReisende|talk]]) 12:01, 29 September 2015 (CEST)

::: I'm not familiar with hh-ing in Spain and can't advise you on this. As for the crossability lists, I am not sure if I will make one for Spain given my personal interest and since apparently the density of service stations in Spain is higher than in other countries. I've noticed that the motorway exit lists on Hitchwiki are linked to on some country pages (Germany), but not on all of them. That would be a "to do" thing - which again I do not feel attracted to, because I'm "such an anarchist" as Zenit put it... --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 12:27, 29 September 2015 (CEST)

::: AFAIK, Spanish hitch-hikers don't have central online communication channels. If Spain was Poland, you would simply throw your questions into the “Autostopowicze czyli MY” (Hitch-hikers, that's WE) group on FB, and probably get a series of answers within a day. --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 12:33, 29 September 2015 (CEST)

: Why the deletions on the [http://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Crossable_rest_areas_in_France&curid=13053&diff=80960&oldid=80955 A35]? [[User:Prino|Prino]][http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]] 13:54, 29 September 2015 (CEST)

:: These stations aren't on the A35 my dear. They're on the A31. Happened before, matter that I forget to remove the remainder of the copy-pasted list. Sorry, but I work as efficient as I can. Anyway, it's rather complete. What's your opinion / experience with motorway bridge restaurants. Are they usually open 24/24 or not? --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 14:43, 29 September 2015 (CEST)

::: The only two in Germany they are 24x7x52.xxxx, in Belgium I don't really know. Barchon closes, as does Wanlin, and no experience with any other, but in Belgium most normal ones also close at night! [[User:Prino|Prino]][http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]] 15:10, 29 September 2015 (CEST)

Hey, the stations which aren't listed in the crossability list for A2 (Germany) -- are they just not crossable? Or did you not find information?--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] ([[User talk:Zenit|talk]]) 12:08, 23 October 2015 (CEST)

: The not listed stations are not crossable, unless I'm really overlooking something! But am pretty sure without checking them, guess I've got some 3,000-5,000 km of hitching experience on that part of the "Warschauer Allee"! --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 20:46, 1 November 2015 (CET)

==Link to google books==

Hi! [http://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Media&diff=0&oldid=84147 You wrote]: "''search it online on Google Books; Hitchwiki does not allow to link directly)''" — what do you mean by this? I can see the link right on that very row, though? :-) -[[User:Mikael|Mikael]] ([[User talk:Mikael|talk]]) 00:05, 15 August 2016 (CEST)

Please, can you watch your language. You said ''Bullshit'' to one of the user talk pages. Please, don't do it again! Other users may find it offensive! [[User:The Vixen|The Vixen]] ([[User talk:The Vixen|talk]]) 18:23, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

== Hitchgathering 2019 ==

Hi Frank, i just saw that [https://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Hitchgathering/2018&diff=next&oldid=91250 Traumschule has been removed] from the list of suggestions for this year's gathering. Was there a decision making process about this or why did this happen? --[[User:Traumschule|Traumschule]] ([[User talk:Traumschule|talk]]) 13:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

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