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I do not only hate them, I also like them. Depending on the time there is mostly. Last October I returned from Klodzko in Poland and decided to take the shorter way over regional roads Klodzko - Nowa Ruda - Walbrzych - Jelenia Gora - Zgorzelec, in stead of Klodzko - E8 - Wroclaw - E40 - Zgorzelec. Klodzko to Jelenia Gora took some six hours (good 100 150 km), JG to Eindhoven took some 9 hours (900 km).  Over Wroclaw to Zgorzelec would have taken two or three lifts, would have been some 50 kilometres more, but would have been lots faster, probably between 3 and 4 hours (2/3 national road, 1/3 motorway). However obviously the rides of 1032 and 85 km that I got yesterday and brought me near to home were very pleasant, and forever the ride that let me cross the first 50 k barrier will be also my first ride of over 1 k! I've thought about celebrating the 50 k mark with VHHC in Wilno (oops, Vilnius), perhaps I'll keep this idea for the 100 k. Thumbs up for 2009. --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] 22:19, 12 January 2009 (UTC)