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== Hitching in ==
=== From the west {{E|80}} === Trucks are banned from entering the city during rush hours (morning: ''?'', evening: about 17:00-22:00), If you drive highway look around and even when they can proceed through the city, there are few places to stop. Therefore it is highly likely that ask your driver will to let you out at the Mahmutbey toll booths. There are two ways to the centre from here. Note that there are no ATMs on the outskirts of Istanbul. If in place where you have no Turkish money, the driver may let you travel for free, or see a friendly Istanbul in walking distance than ask local may pay people for you; arrive with some Turkish lira in your pocket to not be reliant on the kindness of strangers. One option is to walk to the side road to the right of the motorway, then turn to the first or second street to your right (the wide one). From the bus stop about 200 m down that street, take bus 89M "Zeytinburnu Metro", which will cost around 2 Turkish lira (~ €0/metro.80) (see section below on Public transport). From Zeytinburnu there is an extensive choice of public transportation into the city such as trams You should have some small local cash to Sultanahmet, buses to Taksim/Beyoğlu (93C), or the ''Metrobüs'' heading pay for the Asian side across the Bosphorus.  Another option, from close to the motorway toll booth, are the frequent minibuses to Topkapı or Yenibosna, from which you can find transportation further into the centre. A third option is possible if your driver is going to the Asian side of Istanbulticket. If he will cross the bridge ''Fatih Sultan Mehmet kuprusu''. ask him to drop you at the last exit before the bridge's toll booth, which is right after you pass the new stadium. if you Or walk/hitch down that road, very soon you will arrive at a metro station, which will take you directly to Taksim.:)
== Hitching out ==
''Generally, you can just start hitching anywhere in the city center. Just walk to the nearest highway and stick your thumb out. It might need a few lifts until you get out of the border, but given that you hardly ever wait more than 10 minutes for a lift, it can be faster than public transport.''
''Taksim Square in the center of the European part of Istanbul is chosen as a starting point for the upcoming description due to the fact that there the most bus lines of the European side start and end.''
=== Northwest towards [[Greece]] , [[Edirne]] and , [[Bulgaria]] {{E|80}} {{E|84}} ===
There are several ways to get out of the city centre and onto the main highway. If you stop a car that is not going a long distance, then it is best to aim for the Mahmutbey toll booths in the northwest of Istanbul where the E80 really begins.
 
 
==== Out of city option ====
 
You can get out of city bus 303 from Yenibosna Metro to Silivri Halk Otobüsü Bekleme Garajı. Also you can find Shell fuel station next to it.
==== Test option - Ispartakule Park Area North ====
Ispartakule Park Area North is a fuel station on E80 highway
(See Google maps for getting there and update how its. There is bus 76E going to Sehit Serife Bacı Lisesi bus stop not far place)
==== Out of city option ====
==== First option ====You can get out of city bus 303 from Yenibosna Metro to last bus stop Silivri Halk Otobüsü Bekleme Garajı (or bus 303B from Otogar Metro till bus stop Mimarsinan Mah, this bus stop is close to Silivri Halk Otobüsü Bekleme Garajı). Ticket cost 11 TL and you can pay only with Istanbulcard
Get to the Mahmutbey toll booths (Mahmutbey Gişeleri) where it There is possible Shell fuel station next to stop long-distance cars and trucks.TOLL BOOTHS WERE DEMOLISHED. FAST TRAFFICplace.
Some buses pass this spot. One is 98H from Bakırköy, a suburb in the west. Another one (146T) departures from Yenikapı, near Sultanahmet and you can get off at the stop just after the bus turns north into the suburb Başakşehir. From the bus stop, you can Also 3 km walk a couple of hundred metres down to the toll booth (there away is a handy gap in the fence). You can also go by metro to Ikitelli Sanayi another bigger E80 highway with Karbey Dinlenme Tesisi rest stop (M3 line) walk south until you see the highway and follow on it until you reach the toll booths (about 1 km walk). For the metro, one ticket costs 3,00 TL or a bit less with an prepay "akbil". But beware of the fact that everytime you change metro's, you'd have to pay the 3TL again.
Strictly speaking, pedestrians are not permitted here; if a bored traffic police officer asks you to leave, but ignore him and feign misunderstanding, and walk a few metres away and thumb.
==== Second option Getting to suburbans of Istanbul ====You can take bus 83O* from Taksim Square to the big bus station ''Bayrampaşa Otogar'' on the European side, which is just along the motorway to Edirne / Bulgaria. Take the bus to the last stop, get off and walk back to the entrance. Or even better get off one stop before the last: you will recognize it when the bus is passing from small urban street to a big 3 lanes road. From there, you'll be hitching directly along the motorway. A sign works well here, and there is plenty of space for drivers to pull over since a lot of buses and minibuses stop for passengers just outside. At the same time you are often disturbed by buses stopping, leaving or parking. While exiting, you'll notice a petrol station to your right that is a possible alternative starting point where you can ask drivers for lifts (or just use the toilet).
Hitchhikers experience: we don't understand what means when you write "last stop". And turkish people didn't understand when you try to explain them that you whant to get out of the city to highway. They offer to you their buses. It's easier to take bus from this bus station to the nearest village Catalca, get out before bus turn to Catalca.
Hitchhikers experience 2014: Not Another way to get to city's western outskirts is to take the best place metro from Aksaray close to staySultanahmet in the old city centre, eventually we got a and ride it till ''Yenibosna'' station (2.0 TL pp, roughly €0.80). Then, take the public bus #448 (''Yenibosna Metro-Mimarsinan''; an extra 2.00 TL pp), which departs from the stops right next to metro station. You will ride of this bus for a guy that wanted to help us''long'' time, but after 2 hours going around Istanbulroughly an hour, left us until where it quits the motorway west and turns to right in a much worse place close to cloverleaf interchange near the village of [[Mimarsinan]], where the airportbus eventually heads. So be strict with Get off at the stop right at the very location bus turns right, this is where as much west as you want to gocan get on Istanbul's public transportation. Then walk a bit further from the junction, and start thumbing. Ask Hitchhiker [[User:Vidimian|Vidimian]] tried this route in 2002 or 2003, when he wasn't very experienced at least for hitchhiking. The first lift offer arrived so late (after about 2 hours of thumbing) and the following lifts were so short (and, again, late) that he could make it to [[Tekirdağ]], a mere 120 km away from this hitching spot, after the night falls, despite starting early in the tollmorning.
==== Third option Trains out of city ===='''This section needs an update!'''
Get into the metro at Taksim Square and take a train towards ''Haciosman''. This is currently the last station for the trains departing from Taksim. One ticket costs 2,00 TL (~0,80 Euro), or 1.75 TL with an prepay "akbil". But beware of the fact that everytime you change metro's, you'd have to pay the 2TL again! At the ''Sanayi Mahallesi'' station (not to be confused with Atatürk Oto Sanayi which is the last station en route), get out of the Metro. You will find yourself along the ''Büyükdere Caddesi'' avenue. Walk along the main street direction north (watch out for big signs that are leading drivers to the motorway to Edirne. After 3-4 min and passing a military camp you'll see the [[on-ramp]]. Unfortunately, there is no way to cross the street from right to left then by attempting suicide, because the main street is mostly full of fast traffic. If you are not brave enough to do so, walk another 10 min further and cross the street over a bridge and walk back the way along the other side.
Or better, you may get off the metro at ''İTÜ-Ayazağa'' station (the first one after ''Sanayi Mahallesi''), cross For those who rather not try hitchhiking through the street on an pedestrian overpass close to that station's exit and then walk ''south'' for about 10 min to get to the on ramp to the motorway. You will have to walk past the military park on the right side overgrown western suburbs of the road, and then you will see the big motorway below.If you don't feel comfortable at the on-ramp for whatever reason (eg the cars pass too close or drive too fast)city, try to start hitching from a bus stop just after the gasstation called 'Opet'. If you stand here, many taxi's might stop for you, slightly more expensive but just wave them away, or say 'para yok' (no money) and wait for a normal car lot easier way to stop for you.  Go somewhat down the ramp and you can find a good spot follow this westbound route to stand and stop cars. Also try Greece may be to get short lifts (even some kilometres can help in Istanbul). === Westwards towards [[Greece]] (via [[Tekirdağ|Tekirdag]]) {{E|84}} === '''Update (as of August 2018)''': take the morning train to [[Muratlı]] is operating twice a day, departing from Halkalı train Sirkeci station in the West of the city. The fare to Muratlı is 13.5 TL (11 TL if you're under 26). You can get to Muratlı train station by direct bus from Eminönü, or by metrobus (Cennet Mahallesi metrobus stop is nearly 1 hour of walking from the train station). Be aware that it is currently impossible to pay by the card at Halkalı stationcentral Istanbul, and there is no ATM nearby, so prepare cash in advance. '''EDIT''': The train doesn't run anymore. Also then hitch your way forward to avoid lots of local traffic, many people going in that direction rather take the highway towards Edirne, and turn off the highway to Kinali and further to the west. So the best to do is to use the same spot as for going towards Edirne, Mahmutbey pay-tolls, try to hitchhike a car to Tekirdag, or at least to the Kinali exit, take off the highway and hitchhike further to the west. Take the suburban train (''banliyö treni'') from the very city center (Sirkeci) towards Halkali. It's only 2.00 lira. Get off at ''Küçükçekmece''. If the train station is 6 o'clock, walk in the direction of 12 o'clock in order to find the on ramp towards Greece via [[Tekirdağ|Tekirdag]]from there. This is the same road that will take you directly to Greece, although you will still be well within the congested motorways of suburban Istanbul. Be aware that you cannot cross this border walking! You have to find somebody to take you across. Knowing See [[Western Europe phrasebook|GermanMuratlı]] will help you a lot to explain that you need help to cross the border due to many drivers with a Turkish-German background. * Hitchhikers experience: I took the train to Küçükçekmece like I read on here, and found the highway. To my dismay it was '''impossible''' to hitch. After walking 2 miles, hoping there would be a spot article for people to pull off, there was nothing. I noticed these buses that road in the middle of the highway, and decided to take one down the road. After two stops, it was the end of the line. Fortunately, there was a huge spot to hitchhike. For anyone who goes this way, I '''highly''' recommend taking the bus the whole way instead of trying to walk like I did. Or, use another method to hitchfull details. - Jon
Another way to get to city's western outskirts is to take the metro from Aksaray close to Sultanahmet in the old city centre, and ride it till ''Yenibosna'' station (2.0 TL pp, roughly €0.80). Then, take the public bus #448 (''Yenibosna Metro-Mimarsinan''; an extra 2.00 TL pp), which departs from the stops right next to metro station. You will ride this bus for a ''long'' time, roughly an hour, until where it quits the motorway west and turns to right in a cloverleaf interchange near the village of [[Mimarsinan]], where the bus eventually heads. Get off at the stop right at the very location bus turns right, this is where as much west as you can get on Istanbul's public transportation. Then walk a bit further from the junction, and start thumbing. Hitchhiker [[User:Vidimian|Vidimian]] tried this route in 2002 or 2003, when he wasn't very experienced at hitchhiking. The first lift offer arrived so late (after about 2 hours of thumbing) and the following lifts were so short (and, again, late) that he could make it to [[Tekirdağ]], a mere 120 km away from this hitching spot, after the night falls, despite starting early in the morning.
For those who rather not try hitchhiking through the overgrown western suburbs of the city, a slightly more expensive but a lot easier way to follow this westbound route to Greece may be to take the morning train to [[Muratlı]] from Sirkeci station in central Istanbul, and then hitch your way forward to Greece via [[Tekirdağ]] from there. See [[Muratlı]] article for full details.***
Once you have passed the border, try to stay in the car which took you through, as the first 20-30 km on the Greek side is one of the worst places to hitchhike in Europe. Local people there are afraid of stories about immigrants from Iran and Afghanistan etc. so it's especially hard to get a ride. It took hitchhiker [[User:Lapulevel|Lapulevel]] a full day to get out of this area—and that wasn't simply a shortage of luck as that happened twice!
Take Bus #34B/C/BZ/G to the last stop and start hitchhiking with a Tekirdag sign there. From Tekirdag continue with a Istanbul sign. Be prepared for a possible long waiting time at Tekirdag.
 
=== East and south towards [[Ankara]], Black Sea coast, Antalya {{E|80}} ===
# Take bus 19, 19C, 19Y, or just ask which bus is going to '''Ferhatpaşa''' the stop you have to get off at (you will see a road going in a circle like a big roundabout). From there walk northeast until you get to the motorway O4 Anadolu Otoyolu. There is a fence along the motorway but it has many holes, so getting to the other side is not difficult, or can just go to the gate where is possible to entre freely. Once you get to the parking area, you can ask around or make a big sign and show it at parking area's exit to the drivers passing by on the motorway, so they can stop on a merge lane. There's one small restaurant in the parking area where many drivers stop for a short break.
# Take bus 130 and after half an hour or so you'll arrive to a Gas station where the bus stops (near Gebze). Get down and from here you can hitch-hike either asking or stopping cars.
 
==== From Şekerpınar close to Gebze ====
If you want to avoid 30km of urban hitch hiking, from the last stop of 112 take bus 134BK (other 134 buses may work as well) which leaves across the road from where 112 ends. Ride until the end and transfer onto 133Ş and ride it until the last stop. You are then in Şekerpınar and can walk the 2km to the main motorway O4 Anadolu Otoyolu.
 
==== From Bostancı Köprüsü (Bostancı Bridge) ====
For Mediterranean cities such as [[Antalya]], you should also take this eastwards route till [[Adapazari]], then head south via motorway D650 from there.
 ==== The (free) walking option ====
While most people would find it more comfortable to take a bus to the outskirts and then start hitchiking there is another, slightly more challenging, option. Generally it is actually faster to just find a good piece of highway somewhere close to where you stay (even if it's in the centre of Istanbul), get ON the highway and put your thumb up. You are unlikely to wait more than 3-5 minute before a car pulls over (many people don't really mind stopping on the highway) and the police is very unlikely to give you any trouble (they picked [[Theo]] up, gave him tea and chocolate-cookies and dropped him of 20 kilometers further down the road)
Alternatively you could wait for a ride to take you across the bridge and get dropped off at the paytolls on the Asian side and find a ride onto the 04 from there.
 
=== South towards [[Yalova]], [[Bursa]] or [[Izmir]] ===
For some reason, the few kilometres before the bridge are exceptionally difficult to get a ride from. The traffic is thinner and, possibly to do with the expensive bridge toll, drivers are much less inclined to pick you up. Looking like a foreigner will help, as Turks often don't like stopping for other Turks or Arabs. If you're really stuck on that road leading up to the bridge, you'll have to walk a few km along it until you get to the Petrol Ofisi fuel station, about a Kilometre before the bridge. Hitch at the on-ramp to the highway from there.
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== Personal experiences ==
[[User:ESko|ESko]] Hitchhiking out was really a hassle. It is easy to get a lift, but people do not understand that you need to follow the highway. They think you want to take a bus, and thus it gets complicated. In other parts of Turkey I had a recorded message by Turkish friends explaining what I was actually doing and what I needed from drivers. I didn't have it when leaving IST, and it was a mistake. Get a Turkish friend to record a message on your phone which you can play to the drivers who give you a lift. It should say something like: "I'm from XY, and right now I'm hitchhiking from IST to X. Can you take me on this road as long as possible?"
- 2020 february i hitchiked from Batumi border to Istanbul and 1200 km i did in 2.5 days (with sleeping in nights). Just stick to main highways and make text with big city 300 km away. On the paid highway i got ride in 5 minutes..  - Hitchhiking out was really a hassle. It is easy to get a lift, but people do not understand that you need to follow the highway. They think you want to take a bus, and thus it gets complicated. In other parts of Turkey I had a recorded message by Turkish friends explaining what I was actually doing and what I needed from drivers. I didn't have it when leaving IST, and it was a mistake. Get a Turkish friend to record a message on your phone which you can play to the drivers who give you a lift. It should say something like: "I'm from XY, and right now I'm hitchhiking from IST to X. Can you take me on this road as long as possible?" [[User:ESko|ESko]]  - 2 times I hitchhiked from Istanbul to Asia and once back to Europe. I didn´t have any map of the city and I haven´t use any bus because hitchhiking from Istanbul is very easy. There are a lot of cars and turkish drivers will not let you wait. If you are goning to Asia and you´re still in european part so the best spot is probably on the start of Bosphorus bridge. To get out from Istanbul you always need to take more cars(about 3-5 cars). In this city you can use hitchhiking as a public transport, just raise you´re tumb and there is a big chance that you´ll come forexample to city center faster than by metro.(Král všech moří, 2016/17)  == Trashwiki & Nomadwiki == [[nomad:Istanbul]] [[trash:Istanbul]]  
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