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|country = Germany
|map = <map lat='51.049' lng='13.74' zoom='11' view='3' />
|pop = 505508,563 351 <small>(30 June 31/12/2007)</small>
|state = Saxony
|plate = DD
|motorways = [[A4 (Germany)|A4]], [[A13 (Germany)|A13]], [[A14 (Germany)|A14]], [[A17 (Germany)|A17]]
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'''Dresden''' [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=dresden,+germany&ie=UTF8&z=12&ll=51.055639,13.733597&spn=0.10229,0.432243&om=1&iwloc=A] is a city in the eastern Eastern part of [[Germany]]. In [[Dresden]] a World Heritage Site is located, the so called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_Elbe_Valley ''Dresden Elbe Valley''], a former World Heritage Site, is located on its outskirts.
== General remarks ==
Due to the position specific positioning of the gas motorway [[petrol station hitchhiking|petrol stations]] around Dresden, passing it this city from the North to the South, or the opposite, (and vice versa) could be really (but not necessarily) rather difficult.
== Hitching Out Hitchhiking out ===== North towards [[Berlin]], [[Cottbus]] ([[A13]]) ===Take tram line 13 (Strassenbahn) until ''Friedensstraße''. At the crossing (you'll recognize a McDonald's sign), turn right into the ''Hansastrasse'', pass the McDonald's and walk underneath the railway bridge. <map lat='51.07538050661171' lng='13.74114990234375' zoom='13' view='0' float='right' /> After 1 km (and passing some small private gardens) you will find a Shell petrol station. In front of the petrol station entry there's enough space to stop cars that go to the highway. The ''Hansastrasse'' is an access to the [[A4 (Germany)|A4]], in both directions, but most cars are going north from here.Maybe 200m after the Shell station is another gas station and also space where people can stop if you just stand near the road. Most locals go there, as it is cheaper. However, you might miss both some company cars (since companies sometimes have special payment cards for Shell) but also the snobbish type of people that Shell customers tend to be ;)
There are also often hitchhikers right behind the railway station ''Dresden-Neustadt''. Be aware that this is a common meeting point for users of === North towards [http://www.mitfahrgelegenheit.de/ www.mitfahrgelegenheit.de[Berlin]], [[Cottbus]] ([[A13 (Germany)|A13]]) and East towards [[Poland]] so there ''might'' be a higher possibility that people want money for a lift.===
Another good site is very close to the ramp. Take the bus 81 directing Wilschdorf and get off at ''Hellerberge''. Just walk back across the small incoming street. There you'll find an exiting lane going into a factory. If you show a sign telling ''Berlin'', you won't wait long ;)
=== West towards [[Chemnitz]], [[Leipzig]] = Option 1 ====Go to the tram station "Cossebauder Straße" and walk up the big street ("Meißner Landstraße"). You can either ask the people at the gas station or stand next to the road with a sign.
Another good spot A great place for direction north and east is directly ''Hansastraße''. You can either take tram line 13 and get off at ''Friedensstraße'' or if you are in ''Neustadt'', you can also walk from Alaunpark along ''Bischofsweg'' and ''Fritz-Reuter-Straße'' in direction west and you will pass the ramp ''Friedensstraße'' tram stop as well.Walk down ''Hansastraße'' and you will pass 2 petrol stations. Both are good for asking people or to the motorway A4wave a sign. There The first is a place to stop, generally better and the you may meet some other hitchers. Hitching with thumb only is not recommended as cars can see are going in all directions.* If you while waiting at the traffic light. From the cityare going to Berlin, just make a sign saying ''Berlin'', reach it by bus 94 direction "Cossebaude" you will probably get a straight lift from here or "Niederwartha" and get off at least to Freienhufener where it's very easy to hitch to Berlin from the petrol station/truck stop "Zschonergrundstraße"there. * If you are going to Poland, or by local train RB/RE to "Elsterwerda-Biela" or "Hoyerswerda" and get off at "Dresden-Kemnitz"make a sign saying ''Bautzen''. For train or bus you can use That's only a short ride, but just before Bautzen there's a great service area on the ticket for travelling within one fare zone, so motorway where it's quite cheapeasy to find a lift to Poland.
=== South towards [[Prague]] ([[A17]])===Just to start this direction... I haven't tried The gas stations may not be the spots myself but lived in the area for a long time.Get best place to Busstop "Südhöhe" (Lines 72, 76 & 360)hitchhike. There is an ''Aral'' a good sized entry lane for the shell gas station, but on the opposite side exit has no feeder lane which means you kind ofhave to choose between the road. It's street traffic or just the people at the last gas station before the highway though.You could also try to stop people at various Bus stops near traffic lights on the way ("Bergstraße") but the roads acclivity is very high, it's difficult The same goes for drivers to stop (or at least to get back on the road)second gas station.
There might be better spots in Dresden Prohlis, has anyone information on this?
== Passing through Dresden (North->South or South-North) ==If you are coming from the north (e.g. Berlin, A13 or A4 from east.) and you want to go south (e.g. Prague), you might have a problem considering where to get dropped (obviously, only if your driver is not going your way).The problem is that the highway splits just before the gas station. So if you get dropped at the gas station (Aral company), you will get only people going the other way (West).Option 2 ====
Then, you have then three options (in both ways, you will have similar problem Another good hitchhiking spot is very close to the motorway ramp. From Bahnhof Neustadt take the bus 81 towards ''Wilschdorf'' and solution)* get off at ''Hellerberge''. If you might want to get dropped way before Dresden, approximately 20-50 kilometers before getting to stand besides the city bus stop with a sign ''(exact information needed)Berlin''* , you find a nice driver willing to do a loop probably won't wait for youlong. Meaning It also helps that he must go out from the highway after that Aral gas station, make there is a traffic light just before this so every so often cars have to come to a U-turn, take the highway in the other direction, complete stop and drop you on the opposite gas station, then he can enter Dresden or make another U-turn if he is heading west.* if the weather is nice... you can be droped stare at the exit after the gas station. Then you can walk back, following the highway (from outside, please!), to get back to the right gas station (approximately 3.5 km)for a minute.
== Public transport / Blackriding ==''Well... I know someone who once got caught There is also a similar and blackrid(sp?) possibly slightly better bus stop after a traffic light 500 meters up the road from the second gas station in Dresden for Option one. It seemed liked this one has more time with the light being red meaning more drivers had to come to a complete stop before passing the rest of his living therebus stop. He still does so whenever he's in town ;)'' - [User:atopia|Ben]
'''Getting caught blackriding means 40 EUR less travel budget, it's illegal and the ''BVG'' can't use your money to put all those ''wounderful'' cameras everywere, so don't do it.'''
Anyway==== Option 3 ==== If you don’t have any luck with the above options, one can also simply head to the motorway ramp itself. There is enough space there for cars to stop and maybe even a truck if you are lucky.  ==== Option 4 ==== Very often there are hitchhikers right behind the railway station ''Dresden-Neustadt''.Be aware that this is a common meeting point for car-pools, so if you stop a car there you might be asked to contribute to the cost of fuel, although generally it is very unlikely as anywhere else in Germany=== East towards [[Görlitz]], [[Wrocław|Wroclaw]] ([[A4 (Germany)|A4]]) ===   * There is '''On-ramp Hellerberge in Dresden''': From Dresden-Neustadt DB station; take bus number 81 (WILSCHDORF) to the stop 'Hellerberge'. This should not much ticket control in take longer than fifteen minutes. Here you are right at 'DresdenHellerau' interchange of B170 and A4 / A13 direction Bautzen as well as Görlitz.* Ticket machines outside trams give '''Service station Dresdner Tor near Dresden:''' from Dresden take bus 424 or 333 from main station to station Wilsdruff Markt (about 45min ride), go north to junction Nossener/Meißner/Dresdner Straße and turn east into Dresdner Straße. Follow this road for 500m eastwards. You will see a hotel on the right. After this take the left option of the Y-junction, cross the street Umgehungsstraße (S36) and follow the road K9034 (direction Hühndorf, north-east) for 1km. Right before you hit the freeway turn right and walk along the road parallel to the freeway. After another 500m you unstamped ticketsreach the service station === West towards [[Chemnitz]], [[Leipzig]] ([[A4 (Germany)|A4]]), ([[A14 (Germany)|A14]]) ===  '''Option 1''' * Go to the tram stop ''Cossebauder Straße'' and walk up the big street (''Meißner Landstraße''). You can invalidate existing tickets either ask people at the petrol station, stand next to the road with a sign or walk about 1,5km to the A4 ramp (see below).  '''Option 2'''  Another good spot is directly at the motorway A4 ramp. There is quite a good place for the cars to stop; in addition, drivers can notice you in both trams advance when waiting at the traffic lights. To get to this spot, take a bus 94 towards either ''Cossebaude'' or ''Niederwartha'' and busses, get off at the machines ''beepZschonergrundstraße'' stop; you can also get there by local trains RB/RE going to ''Elsterwerda-Biela'' or ''Hoyerswerda'' (get off at ''Dresden-Kemnitz'' when ). Both for the train and/or the bus you do can use one-fare-zone ticket, soit is relatively cheap.* Inside most tramsComment by Johannes: It is possible to get a ride from here, but the spot is not as ideal as it may sound. Lots of traffic from two sides, but narrow. Drivers from the left side have literally no time to notice you, thereand those from the right won't be comfortable because they are in a curve and have cars behind them. Still possible (got a ride from here twice) but be patient and I's d recommend going without a ticket machine sign, and when someone stops who is not going your direction have them drop you off at 'Dresdner Tor' service area (6km from that gives spot)  '''Option 3'''  From Dresden-Neustadt DB station; take bus number 81 (WILSCHDORF) to the stop 'Am Olter'. This should not take longer than fifteen minutes. Here you are right at 'Dresden Hellerau' interchange of B170 and A4 / A13 direction Leipzig as well as Chemnitz. You can try to directly hitchhike there or to use 'Rastanlage Dresdner Tor' (10 minutes/12 kilometers from here) as a relais.  '''Option 4'''  For a good service station to ask drivers directly, go to ''Dresden Hauptbahnhopf'', buy a stamped ticket to Warthenau (2€ as of July 2013). From Warthenau, take the exit and walk right, descending a semi-gravel road. Turn right under the viaduct, and then turn right again. Here you will see an old German inn called Gasthof Warthenau. Walk to the Gasthof, then cross the street facing the Elbe river: here you will see several bus stops. From the bus stop without a shelter, take bus 331 to ''Huhndorf'', only two stops. '''Note''': this bus only runs three or four times a day, so figure out what train you should take in order to avoid an hour wait; you can figure this out to go to the information desk at the ''Hauptbahnhof'' in Dresden. When you arrive in Huhndorf, walk in the direction the bus just hanging around came for approx. 10 metres, then turn right to ''Am Rasthof'' (which means "at the service station") – yes, that really is the name of the street. Walk down the road to the service station (approx. a 10-minute walk), take the second left, turn right at the house (a cheap hotel) you will find yourself on an excellent service station with restaurants, a giant truck resting area and westbound drivers stopping for petrol. If you want to head to Holland, first try to hitch to Leipzig and then Magdeburg-Hannover, this way you avoid hitching through the [[Ruhr]] area, which is a pain.   === South towards [[Prague]] ([[A17 (Germany)|A17]]) ===   ====Option 1 Parkplatz Am Nöthnitzgrund==== Try to get to the Parkplatz Am Nöthnitzgrund its first parking lot right after getting on the A17. Nearly everyone leaving Dresden in this direction is going to Pirna and will pass this park place. There is not very much traffic at this stop, but surely everybody is going across the border to the first petrol station in Czech Republic.   To get there use bus 351,252, 360 to stop Bannewitz Nöthnitz and walk Gostritzer street until autoban and than turn right (see Google maps). Walking from centre is 8 km to get there won   ====Option 2.==== There are a few places near bus stop ''Südhöhe''t serve (Bus lines 72, 76 & 360) at the overpass intersection of Bergstraße, Südhöhe, Kohlenstaße. <br>A. the onramp to Bergstraße (Highway 170) going south towards A17 and Prag. You can get a driver while they are stopped at the light waiting to take a right onto the highway. See other options for next steps as excuse if youare unlikely to get a long distance ride from here. <br> {I tried this option for 1h and didn're controledt work at all. Cars haven't place to stop and usually they have other cars behind so it's really hard to find one that would wait at the green traffic light until you get in the car... march 2017} B. There is a petrol station ("Aral")but it is located on the opposite side of the road. It's the last petrol station before the motorway though. {found a car after 1h, really luckily, almost all cars go in the opposite direction... march 2017} <br>  * Bus ====Option 3.==== Try to stop cars on various bus stops or near traffic lights on ''Bergstraße'' between city center and ''Südhöhe''. However, it is difficult for the drivers to stop on this road and taking a bus to ''Südhöhe'' is recommended. Haltestelle ''Mommsenstraße'' is probably the best as you can easily stand close to the bridge and ask people at the traffic light. It is not advisable to walk along highway 170 past Südhöhe.  ====Option 4.==== B170, A17 / E55 autobahn interchange ([http://hitchwiki.org/maps/?place=4650 map]). There is a traffic light at entry ramp to A17 east towards Prag with a blue sign, a wide shoulder, and just after the corner to the entry ramp is a small slab of asphalt were drivers also sell stamped ticketscan stop. Try to get a ride to the next rest stop, about 5 minutes away driving. <br> To get here: <br>* You could buy Get a ride to the A17 west onramp from one of the other options. They will be dropping you off on the side of the highway so be careful.* Take bus 360 from Dresden main station towards A17 (direction ''Dippoldiswalde''). Press the stop button directly after you pass the onramp to A17 towards Prague. The bus will stop 200m later so walk back to the onramp. (short rangebus stop "Nöthnitz, if youBannewitz") <br>  ===Option 5 === Having tried a few of the above options, we headed to the Technical University ('Technische Universtät're on low money) ticket and keep got a ride in about 20 minutes. It's along the highway to Prague and I figured it unstampedmight have a younger population driving past (being based around a uni). * Most transportation rules for German public transport are From Haubtbahnhof, take the 66 bus (heading south) to stop 'Technische Universtät.' This will place you along the lines 170 highway that passes North-South through Dresden and later connects with the A17 highway towards Prague. Try hitching a ride from the bus stop. It allows plenty of space for cars to stop, and the buses come every 20 mins - so they shouldn't be too much of an issue for stopping cars. Make yourself a clear and legible sign so passing drivers can see where you have want to go. UPDATE 22/10/2017 We (two hitchhikers) waited at the universitat (option 5) for more than 2 hours without getting any ride. The spot is good but people were not driving outside of the city so not so good. Then we walked (20 min) to present the petrol station (option 1B) and there we get a valid ticket if ride with the first car to the first rest area when you're asked are on the highway. It was a small rest area and not many car were stopping there and more than the half were driving to do so Pirna or Dresden. We waited there 2 more hours before getting a ride.  === South by train, hitchhiking in Czech Republic ([[Děčín]], [[Ústí nad Labem]]) === If you got some time and money, and prefer seeing some landscape of the Elbe/Labe valley as well as of the Saxonian and Bohemian "Switzerland" mountains, you can take the train ''I have not checked specifically for 'S1''' from Dresden (from main station, Dresden-Neustadt and others; direction '''Schöna''')to the Czech border. The ticket is 17 Euro (as of 2015 october) - get it at the ticket machines and validate it before entering the train!* You can either leave the train at '''Schmilka-Hirschmühle'''You need to get (the ferry there is included in the ticket stamped price) or at '''Schöna''' (and pay the ferry extra). After crossing the river by ferry, walk over the border and through '''Hřensko'before'' . There is a bus stop at the end of the town and a large space behind it. If there are too many cars parked, hitch at the bus stop directly. There is not much traffic control reaches , so prepare to wait a while. Everybody goes to [[Děčín]] from here. If you're lucky, you will find a direct hike to [[Ústí nad Labem]]. As well the train ride as the road from Hřensko have really nice nature which is best experienced in good weather. == Hitchhiking in ==If you driver is passing Dresden in east-west direction, it's a good idea to have him drop youat the exit ''Dresden-Neustadt''. It's very easy for then driver to get back onto the motorway and there's a tram station from where you can get into the city centre easily. == Passing through Dresden (North->South or South->North) ==* If you didare coming from the North (e.g. Berlin, A13 or A4 from the East) and you want to continue to the South (e.g. Prague) you might have some troubles regarding the location of where you can be dropped off for further successful hitchhiking in case when your driver is not going further your way. The problem is that the motorway splits just before the motorway petrol station called Dresdner Tor (Aral), so if you are dropped at the petrol station, you will get only those drivers who go the other way (to the West). Then, you have several ways to get further (in any of these ways you will have similar problems and shouldsolutions) argue :* you might want to get dropped off way before Dresden, at the gasstation Freienhufener Eck West, approximately 60 kilometers before getting into the city;* get a ride going west onto A4 at Dresden, so that you just forgot can be dropped off at Dresdner-Tor Nord. Then walk west for about 800 meters to a local road, walk through the tunnel and walk back east at the other side of the motorway for 800 meters to get back on Dresdner-Tor Sud.* you find a nice driver willing to stamp do a loop for you meaning that he must drive off the motorway after that "Aral" petrol station, make a U-turn, take the motorway in the opposite direction and drop you off at the petrol station, and only then he can either enter Dresden or make another U-turn if he is heading West; == Public transport ==The public transport in Dresden consists of buses, trams and regional S-Bahn trains. All of them can be used with the same ticket given it is valid for your zone.  * You can validate your ticket in both trams and buses. The machines "beeps" when you do so. Tickets can not be validated in the S-Bahn, you have to do that on the platform or your ticket might be considered invalid.* Ticket machines on tram stops give you unstamped (unvalidated) tickets which you validate inside the tram at any time later. Bus drivers sell stamped (validated) tickets.* Inside most of dresden DVB AG trams there is a ticket machine that gives you an already stamped (validated) ticket. You cannot rely on the phrase: "I am already hanging around the machine to buy a ticket the very next moment" when inspectors are showing up around you within seconds. The given argument will definitely not be helpful! You do not hold a valid DVB AG transportation document in yours hands!* People carrying an adult monthly, yearly or job ticket can take somebody along on Saturday, Sunday and public holidays for free. This is possible from the day before and (e.g. Friday for weekends) 18:00 until the day after (e.g. Monday for weekends) 06:00. Just ask around at the stops. Unfortunately students cannot take you. === Blackriding (Freeloading, Freeriding) === [''The information below does not apply to the S-Bahn city train. See [[Deutsche Bahn]] instead''] * If you fail to show your ticket to an inspector you will most likely get a fine of 40 EUR which needs to be paid by bank transfer within about 10 days. Rumors are that even if you are a foreigner but living within the European Union an announcement to pay will be send even to your country.* Ticket inspectors in Dresden (DVB AG) are dressed in civil clothes.* They are usually neither very friendly to foreigners nor able to speak English very well. Make sure to have a valid ticked nonetheless(!) ticket.* Ticket inspectors are difficult but possible to spot: They do '''not''' look like students which mostly carry a laptop case and/or wear a white or light blue shirt with a collar. They do '''not''' look like businessmen which would wear suit and tie. The are mostly '''not''' older than 50 to 55 years. They are mostly '''not''' younger than 20 years. They do '''not''' carry any (large) case, (heavy or completely filled) backpack or plastic (shopping) bag with them. They do '''not''' use mp3 player or walkmen with any sort of earphones. They mostly appear in smaller groups of two or three men in an average dress (sloppy T-shirt or pullover, jeans, a fisherman vest, cheaper non-brand shoes). They are mostly standing (or sitting) together but are '''not''' talking (or arguing) to/at each other in public.* Ticket inspectors mostly carry a very small waist backpack or normal (but almost empty) backpack underneath a vest/shirt where their DVB AG computer devices or official papers are in. * Ticket inspections are '''not''' conducted (as in some other European cities) '''on''' bus or tram platforms or '''on''' open bus or tram doors but '''only''' when vehicles are moving between two stops.* After 8pm, 20:00 you need to get in busses at into the bus through the first door and (then) bus drivers where the driver sits. Drivers are supposed to check tickets but usually don't do not give them a close closer look. I wouldn't suggest using You might be lucky when you quickly show an old student passport older (serving as a and now invalid) DVB AG ticket.* At night, ticket inspectors in trams are accompanied by security personnel.* Most DVB AG ticket) as they inspections are conducted from around 09:00 to around 13:00. == Sleeping == In summer you can sleep at the river. The police are looked upon closernever looking for sleeping people or anything. A good place is [http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.06293&lon=13.783811&zoom=18&layers=M this]. Sometimes people camp with tents at the river [http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.068408&lon=13.728617&zoom=18&layers=M here]. Do not put your tent in the parks, especially Großer Garten and Alaunpark. It is strictly forbidden and Großer Garten is patroulled by its own security personnel while Alaunpark could be checked by the police multiple times during the night. == Souvenirs == You can buy expensive stuff at the touristic shops but if every Saturday there is a second hand market until 14:00 @ [http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.057502&lon=13.757617&zoom=18&layers=M here] where people sell ancient things - e.g. from the time of the socialism - very cheap.Moreover you want to try your luck, show an old (invalid) ticketcan bring or get clothes for free at the free shop [http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=51.068065&mlon=13.75335&zoom=16# here]. Check the [http://umsonstladen.fueralle.org/ opening hours]. == Eat and drink == Nearly every day there is warm food for a low price in a different alternative house. Check the [http://zope6.free.de/terminal/kalender.html calendar] for the words "Essen" or "Küfa". == Nomadwiki & Trashwiki == {{nomadwiki}}
* ticket control personal is:
** always two persons
** at least one physically capable male
** not too old / too young
** not too well-dressed
** no heavy / big carriage
** AFAIR they don't necessarily need handhelds so they might not carry bags at all
* most ticket control is performed from around 9 to around 1 pm
* sometimes there are special controls at 3am in busses etc.
* I've heard rumours of black clothed "security" personal performing ticket control e.g. at friday night but never was checked outside normal work hours
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