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Boo -- the :: Archive of '''Talk:Main Page format has been blatantly ripped off from ''': [http[Talk:Main Page//wikitravel.org Wikitravel05-07|2005-2007]]:: ''Our [[Community Portal]], which is licensed under CC by-saa more appropriate place for questions, comments and discussions that are not GFDLdirectly related to the Main Page. [[User:202''----== To new members ==Please make your first contribution your own 'user' profile! This will stop showing your name in red and it will give your contributions more validity.76.231.182|202.76.231.182]] 19:40, 19 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Hej! I thought == New Advise Article ==It could be useful to take the main article advice written on the [[Canada]] page should just about '''Winter Hitch-hiking''' hazard and maybe some other countries are having some too. They could be an overview with grouped together on this same page for all Winter Hazardous country or regions: [[Russia]], [[Scandinavia]], [[Iceland]], [[Canada]], [[Alaska]] ... [[User:Maplefanta|Maplefanta]] 01:54, 19 January 2008 (CET)::With some regions of Canada having marked way beneath the countries and without cities-50 Celsius on the thermometer last month, if someone knows where to set such page, the already existing info is on the [[Canada]] page, it is most likely needed. Did I get it wrong? - deleea[[User:Maplefanta|Maplefanta]] 03:16, 4 March 2008 (CET)

Hello. Before discovering this place for discussion I already filled some boxes eg about Virgin hh, Poland and == Bug?? ==When linking from other sites or typing on the Netherlands. On one hand this wiki is a good idea, because it has some (very small) potential to become an interesting source of information. Howeveraddress bar, I am not expecting this at all. Which does not need to mean anything. Any new business usually takes some time - up to three or five years - often get sent to make a little bit more than it costs, and so it might be with this initiative. As for what I've read it's some kind double'' of start. However, I have doubts about the general neutrality of the content for now. For example - I read that a country can be skipped if an attempt to hitchhike there does not succeed. What page with a bullshit! This may be reasonable for random long distance travellerscapital letter, however many people who hitchhike do so for very different reasonswhich looks like the following: http://hitchwiki. For example because they don't have money, because there is no public transport and so onorg/en/Http://hitchwiki. Hitchhiking in the Netherlands "is possible"org/index. "phpAnyone has an idea why? It's possible" for some, for others it is easy, not just possible. So, my comment is a very positive one - I hope - which tries seems to say. What is the neutral point of view? Ah, I see always do that if we link hitchwiki city page on the hitchhikers point of view is wantedCS wiki travel page. If so, what It is a hitchhiker, and what is the hitchhikers point of view? If a non-hitchhiker wanted to hitchhike out of towndone on every page from cswiki [[User:Maplefanta|Maplefanta]] 05:10, what would be his or her point of view? That's all. It's an ambitious project you're thinking of. All the best with it. Regards Frank Verhart. Note - please don't copy information 30 May 2009 (textUTC) from my website. It is copyrighted material that I do not offer for publication elsewhere. PS - I don't like the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

:Hi! Just finished HGttG today :) So I It's because of the intricacies of <tt>.htaccess</tt>. just wanted The CS wiki is linking to write Don't panic! but then I saw you don't like ite.g. http://www.hitchwiki.org/Paris.:So I'm glad to read your critique checked [http://davidwalsh.name/no-www-using-htaccess-file some stuff] and I'll try to do something useful with hopefully it!:One thing though: this is not a business! The AdSense money goes to Wikicities, to which I'm not affiliateds all working fine now. Also, I'm not really the founder: I adopted, or saved thia wiki from a ''spam death'' Let me know if you encounter any weird redirect errors.:ciao, [[User:Guaka|Guakaguaka]] 2018:1040, 5 February 2006 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Possibility Logo update==:''moved to [[project:Logo update]]''

Once we get more states into == Mainpage ==I just took the old news out of the United Statesmainpage news template. Now there is quite some free space. However, do you want I think it is good to keep the mainpage simple and not too overloaded (and also keep in future just the last 10 site news entries). Any suggestions about what could be added there or how the page could be reordered? I would suggest to divide it move the picture of the now to the left column and also put there a field with the most important content with a symbol (e.g. general info Top Tips, Where, Safety, Signs, First time, Picking up into regional pages?hitchhikers, country info). Maybe one of the design and graphic program gifted people could make some icons for this... It might also be worth to think about which content is important for new people (e.g. move the site news - what is normally for the more frequent users - to the right bottom side... --[[User:Alex|Alex]] 19:28, 23 July 2008 (CEST)

:Continued at : I would also suggest to fix the ''edit'' buttons in the top box. Looks quite annoying and I guess that this box anyway doesn't need much editing, so maybe we should set it to ''admin edit only''. News, pics, events etc. then can still be edited through the templates, of course. [[TalkUser:United States of Americaplatschi|platschi]]<small>^{[http://blogs.hitchwiki.org/platschi site] , [[Useruser talk:Guakaplatschi|Guakawikitalk]] 15:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)}</small>

== Errors that need to ::: agree, doesn't make much sense since these boxes are not much edited in the first place and as you say, the other boxes can still be fixed ==edited by anyone through the templates --[[User:Robino|Robino]] 12:45, 18 August 2008 (CEST)

Sorry: wanted to propose to rearrange the boxes, one for wiki-news, one for general news, one for events, one for stories (upcoming), and one for 3 (through rss) most recent (planet) blogs. I hit edit instead of add commentthink the general news should be on top (left), then events, whoops then stories. On the right (help and then wiki-news) or something similar --[[User:Robino|Robino]] 12:45, 18 August 2008 (CEST)

Anyway::Sounds good. Feel free to play around on [[User:Platschi/Spielwiese]],used that page last time for editing ideas of the main page. Let's see how we can make it much better :) [[User:platschi|platschi]]<small>^{[http://blogs.hitchwiki.org/platschi site], [[user talk:platschi|wikitalk]]}</small> 12:54, 18 August 2008 (CEST)

Kyiv/Kiev on the title pageI just added some tips to the Kyiv page (well, one tip :) - please note in Ukrainian language Kiev is written as Kyiv - which should be the correct == Language of place name to use (Kiev is the old Russian name for the city).Mind you, noone will get confused, but just for the sake of completeness (and to not piss off any Ukrainians :)==

PSJust wondering about the desirability to work out the economic aspect of hitchhiking. Wechner indicated finance as one the four main motivations for hitchhiking, the other one being adventure, environment and social sharing [http: what//bernd.wechner.info/Hitchhiking/Suite101/Article/?03]. The incentive to this question at the moment is mainly the current economic crisis that is in execution among banks, governments, public and business that in all likeliness will last for many many years to come, mostly in Northern America and Europe. Following the recent news there seems to be already some reason to be concerned (which applies mostly to people who are in debt). In other words - would economic recession / depression increase again the number of hitchhikers, which in the US and Europe basicly 's wrong with HHGTG'used to be'' in decline since the 1980s. Will hitchhiking in the US and EU increase and popularize due to increasing poverty in the coming ten to twenty years? Such macro economic developments are fascinating. --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] 15:49, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks for your contributionsLet's start an article about this! :When you log in you can "move" pages to another title. That way there will also be a redirect. Now both Not yet sure about the name, but [[Kyiveconomy]] and will do :) [[Kiev]] point to the same articleSpecial:Contributions/212.:Something wrong with HHGTG? Nah143. Or do you mean Hitchhiker's Guide to Hitchhiking159. Well, I think the title is a bit long96|212. But maybe it's good143. I'd be willing to use any name, if there are enough folks who want that name159. :) [[User:Guaka|Guaka96]] 20:1203, 11 October 2006 9 December 2008 (UTC)

==StatsFrontpage is evolving ==* Good! Frontpage is going trough changes at the very begining of the 2009. :-) Should "Basics" and "Places" be more bigger and first in line, when reader starts from top-left -corner? I want can try to see if I can get Wikistats installedvisualize my idea when i have more time. (For hitchwiki and the CS Wiki.) Icons are great spice to bring some colours, maybe they should be bigger? -[[User:GuakaMikael|GuakaMikael]] 0321:0419, 24 November 2006 7 January 2009 (CETUTC)

== overview ==For me: Haha, it always takes to long to find a specific country on I had exactly the mainpage (especially in europesame idea this morning :), because countries, continent-parts and cities You are mixedwelcome to tweak the site a bit. I would suggest removing at least the cities Oh, and maybe also the continent-parts (I think it's more likely that people if you are looking for a specific country).Does anyone agree with me? :in IRC, you might want to drop by in #hitchhiking@freenode ;) --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 15:41, 3 December 2006 (CET):Yeah, I think so too. It's good to have cities on the main page to encourage development, but maybe for the Europe section we could remove them. [[User:Zac Stewart|Zac]]<small>^{[[User talk:Zac Stewart|talk]]}</small> 1822:4753, 3 December 2006 7 January 2009 (CETUTC)

:Removed :Actually i came out with [[User:Mikael/Main_Page_09_a|these rather big changes]]. :-) Comments? I didn't test it with IE's yet (i'm working with OSX). Design is really close to the [http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Etusivu fi.wikipedia -frontpage]. -[[User:Mikael|Mikael]] 01:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC):::Yeah man, I love it :) I can test it in IE tomorrow. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 15:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC) : About compatibility: With Firefox 3.0.3 it looks great, with IE7 the fonts look weird, also the top ''Hitchwiki'' text is somehow cut below, so only 3/4 of the text is visible. All other boxes are okay, though. Will test with Safari Browser later. --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 16:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC):: Here it works perfect in Safari. In IE7, the right border of the boxes is missing. All content is visible, so only a minor issue. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 17:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC) ::Hi! Great to see it in action. :-) I tested it in Safari 3.21 under OSX - works great. I also tweaked a inline CSS of the H1-element ("Hitchwiki"-title). Can somebody test it in IE6 and 7? I think clipping problem was commong line-height -bug in IE. I'll do some additional testing at office tomorrow. -[[User:Mikael|Mikael]] 20:13, 19 January 2009 (UTC) ::: Looks goog in Google Chrome except that left boxes are sqeezed a bit which creates 2,5 cm empty space under the Pictures of the Moment. --[[User:Sigurdas|Sigurdas]] 10:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC) ::The left column is too small on the 9" screen of my Acer Aspire One. I've tried playing a bit with the width but I didn't quickly manage to fix it. [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 10:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)::: I have the same 'problem'. Also I would find it cool to have pictures on the screen without scrolling and also have the links to different hitchhikers available... this makes the wiki more personal. --[[User:Alex|Alex]] 11:01, 21 January 2009 (UTC) ::: I added "min-width" -attribute to the left column. It's not working with IE5-6, but what the European citiesheck. ;-) Another thing would be taking 4th picture out from the gallery, so right column could shrink smaller with small resolutions. I wouldn't add list of hitchhikers visible by default, but how about show/hide -stylish box? Maybe under "Also on Hitchwiki". -[[User:Mikael|Mikael]] 17:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC) :::: 'I wouldn't add list of hitchhikers visible by default' - Why not? Because there are not all contributers? Not a big thing in my opinion, not everybody wants to be linked there and it could be named accordingly. I can't think of any other reasons... but I am curious to get to know some more views on this. My point is that it gives a more personal touch to the technical wiki, it is about real people (as somebody also stated in why he works for Hitchwiki). Arguments around this more personal touch of Hitchwiki are welcomed too. --[[User:Alex|Alex]] 04:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC) ::::: I think this wiki is quite personal already with or without hichhikres-list. My top reason was to prevent main page to grow too heavy with lot's of text/link mass, though i'd also like to see some quick way to browse active hitchwiki-users. -[[User:Mikael|Mikael]] 17:17, 26 January 2009 (UTC) ::::: I [[User:Mikael/Main_Page_09_a|tested]] to float gallery to the right, but it's not working with smaller (under 1200px width) resolutions. :-/ With 24" It's looking great. :-D -[[User:Mikael|Mikael]] 17:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC) ::On Win ME (yes, ppl still seem to use it) with Firefox 2.0 and 1024x768 Screen the two boxes (Places/Basics) are pretty narrow. Changing min-width doesn't help. In IE6 the site looks horrible, but who is using IE6 anyway? Maybe we should add an "Best seen with firefox" whatever button the the Start Page?--[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 14:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC) :The '''News''' and '''Events''' boxes don't adapt themselves to the screenwidth, which is extremely annoying! [[User:Prino|Prino]] 00:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC) : I did some editing for the CSS and tested it with IE 5.5-7 under Windows XP. These worked as well: safari 3 (win/mac), firefox 3 (win/mac), opera 9.6 (win/mac). With IE6 and under png-transparengy doesn't work (''needs JS-hack or background-color added to the images''), first box doesn't have top-margin and it's contents had too big line-height. These are not minor problems. I also took 4rd PotM-image away, so page should now scale better with small screens (like tiny 9" computers). -[[User:Mikael|Mikael]] 17:17, 26 January 2009 (UTC) :Maybe it would be better to show less news entries on the startpage? So the event box would be visible on the first sight on smaller screens. Upcoming events should catch more interest than 4 month old news, or? --[[User:Globetrotter tt|Globetrotter tt]] 08:15, 7 March 2009 (UTC) :Just reduced the news-items to three, as the previous ones were outdated anyway. Better now on smaller screens :-) ? --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 11:25, 7 March 2009 (UTC) :Could anyone able give some help to clean up the design of the frontpage of the French version of Hitchwiki? I'm not very used to this kind of job, but I find it awful compared to the English one. Thanks! --[[User:Grégoire|Grégoire]] 12:33, 9 August 2009 (UTC) :@[[User:Grégoire|Grégoire]] it's on my todo list --[[User:Xo|xo]] 02:31, 10 April 2010 (UTC) ==search-field== I don't know if somebody already suggested it, but is it possible to move the search-field more up!? I think it's the most used field on the main page and should be directly under the hitchwiki-picture. Especially for smaller monitors, eg netbooks, you have to scroll down to reach it ;-) --[[User:jeensg|jeensg]] 13:53, 9 February 2010 (UTC) :I'm okay with it. What do other people think? [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 23:04, 9 February 2010 (UTC) ::good idea! --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 09:23, 10 February 2010 (UTC)::I agree with the idea, and I would even suggest to make the field a bit larger.--[[User:Grégoire|Grégoire]] 09:27, 10 February 2010 (UTC) :Hey, is it possible to move it up some time? I mean, I don't know much about the construction and whether it's hard to do so, maybe we just forgot about it? --[[User:jeensg|jeensg]] 11:51, 5 March 2010 (UTC):: Yes, we forgot. Or rather: nobody felt responsible for doing it. I did it now. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 11:28, 5 March 2010 (UTC)::: Thanks a lot, I really do like it! --[[User:jeensg|jeensg]] 22:06, 22 March 2010 (UTC) ==New colors, logo and such==[[Image:Hitchwiki front proposal 2010 a.png|thumb|Frontpage proposal 1, by [[User:Mikael|Mikael]]|400px]] Hello! We've been building [http://github.com/MrTweek/maps.hitchwiki.org a new hitchwiki maps] and some days ago I designed [http://github.com/MrTweek/maps.hitchwiki.org/raw/master/_Documents/maps_gui.png a new GUI for it]. I got an idea to bring that logo and colors also to the Hitchwiki and so far it looks like this. What do you mean think? If you don't like colors, at least we could use this structure?  Hand in logo is from hitchgathering.org -logo, since it was CC-by-SA. :-) Is that okay? I also put randomroads and hitchgathering -links to the main menu. That square light box is a hovered link. -[[User:Mikael|Mikael]] 17:35, 31 May 2010 (UTC) :Where is the "Like it" Button? ;) Looks great, maybe only the color of the article count could be a bit darker, as here it looks pretty close to the background color. Or it's just my eyes that are quite bad :P The logo is cool, it's simple and says it all. Lovei t. Anyway, go for it, Mikael! --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 20:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC):: I love it :) If you want, just install it to [[Hitchwiki:Start Page]] --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 13:58, 23 August 2010 (UTC) == Updated PNGs == I've updated a whole bunch of PNGs with versions that were generated directly from the SVG from Wikipedia (with the GIMP). Height is around 400 pixels (or less) to keep the PNGs from adding dithered colors. Resulting PNGs were optimized with [http://advsys.net/ken/utils.htm#pngout PNGOUT]  So far I've done all flags for the countries I have visited. Flags for the additional nationalities of drivers that gave me rides will follow (in a future) [[User:Prino|Prino]] 13:28, 23 August 2010 (UTC): By the way, it should be possible to upload SVGs here. That way we could completely avoid any conversion problems. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 13:56, 23 August 2010 (UTC)::The File upload page does not seem to allow .SVG, but I haven't tried it. However, you must be aware that older browsers do not support .SVG files and I'm not sure if one of the newer (aka the piece of junk from M$) ones does. Also, if I try to upload '''Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg''' I get the following message: "# A file with this name exists already, please check File:Flag of the Netherlands.svg if you are not sure if you want to change it." Clicking on the link will go to a page that tells me "This file is from a shared repository and may be used by other projects. The description on its file description page there is shown below" And it doesn't show up in [http://hitchwiki.org/en/Special:ListFiles?limit=50&ilsearch=Netherlands&title=Special%3AListFiles Special:ListFiles], so how does the link to [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg Wikimedia Commons] work? Another problem is of course the case-sensitivity, if I try to upload "Flag_of_'''T'''he_Netherlands.svg", the system will happily let me do so. [[User:Prino|Prino]] 19:46, 23 August 2010 (UTC) : Also, I wonder what the reason is, to re-upload images in the same resolution? They look completely the same for me. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 14:15, 23 August 2010 (UTC)::The PNGs I uploaded are exactly the same, but PNGOUT is capable of compressing them significantly better in many cases, which should save some bandwidth... Look at some of the bigger files I replaced in the changelog! [[User:Prino|Prino]] 19:23, 23 August 2010 (UTC) [[File:Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg|150px|thumb|left|This a .SVG file]] : Hmm, ok. First of all: Hitchwiki is linked to wikimedia commons. That means, you can just use any file uploaded to wikimedia commons here. And that is also the reason for your error message: If you upload a file, that is also uploaded to wikimedia commons, you would replace it locally. This is fine, you can do that. It doesn't make much sense to upload the same file again, though.: It doesn't really matter wether a browser supports svg. The wiki renders them to png pr jpg anyway. But it can render them in a much better quality, no matter which size they will have. So, in general, SVG is always better than PNG or JPG, but not always possible.: I think bandwith is not so much of an issue nowadays. All modern browsers support on-the-fly-compression anyway, so it will probably not make any difference at all. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 21:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC) == Navigation == On the right side sucks, BIG time...  And while I'm writing this, the table with foreign characters shows as a series of "continent partscharinsert"tags, possibly because it's missing a final '}' [[User:Prino|Prino]] ([[User talk:Prino|talk]]) 20:52, 1 October 2012 (CEST):And the colour of the links, a horrible blue also stinks. Why was this change required, what was wrong with the old design? [[User:Prino|Prino]] ([[User talk:Prino|talk]]) 22:03, 1 October 2012 (CEST)::And 9 cm of grey screen on either side of the text on a 23" monitor is also really useful. [[User:Prino|Prino]] ([[User talk:Prino|talk]]) 11:56, 2 October 2012 (CEST) :I like Mikael's new design but the old Monobook one is useful indeed. So go to [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering]] and choose MonoBook. That's what I just did, there are still some tidbits not working but I'll fix them in [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]]. :Charinsert is broken because the extension doesn't work anymore with MediaWiki 1.19. Will try to fix that as well today. [[User:Guaka|guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka|talk]] 03) 12:05, 2 October 2012 (CEST) == Bug == Hey guys - having trouble adding places? It gives an error message and then you can't add anything Anyone else experiencing this problem? 15th November 2016. All templates are out of order, because they have a "<nowiki>{{ #</nowiki>" at their beginning in the whole wiki. -[[User:GeorgDerReisende|GeorgDerReisende]] ([[User talk:GeorgDerReisende|talk]]) 09:1551, 4 December 2006 October 2012 (CETCEST):Thanks for noting. We know about this bug, but as far as I know, it only affect the Isin-Template? A quick Check on [[Germany]] which has a lot of templates shows me that most of them work fine. Please let us know if you know of any specific template that is broken as well --[[User: MrTweek|MrTweek]] ([[Eastern EuropeUser talk:MrTweek|talk]]) 09:58, 4 October 2012 (CEST): many templates which I use for the motorways are broken: {{ramp}} {{junction}} {{gas}} {{rest}} {{very good}} {{good}}, look at {{Ade|1}} --[[User:GeorgDerReisende|GeorgDerReisende]] ([[Western EuropeUser talk:GeorgDerReisende|talk]]) 14:44, 8 October 2012 (CEST) * I don't know about the templates (except IsIn) but the all the links to Trashwiki aren't in the toolbow anymore, etcbut at the end of the page... I speak about the french version (exemple: [http://hitchwiki.org/fr/Prague], at the end of the page). For the english version, they just disappeared... Even if they are still in the editing page. --[[User:Klodreamer|Klodreamer]] ([[User talk:Klodreamer|talk]]) 18:34, 9 October 2012 (CEST) * It seems to me, that for all pictures, which have been uploaded before October, the original files have been gone. That lead to the above problem, that my templates don't run any more. --[[User:GeorgDerReisende|GeorgDerReisende]] ([[User talk:GeorgDerReisende|talk]]) 17:55, 15 October 2012 (CEST): I just re-imported them, so most images should work again. Please let me know, if there are still a lot missing. If there are only a few missing, we can just upload them again manually. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 13^{([[User_talk:MrTweek|talk]])} 04:32, 28 October 2012 (CET)* I'm already missing some symbols: {{rest}} {{average}} {{bad}} {{senseless}}, the logo don't show up, in the German wiki also the template ''gut'' has no picture. --[[User:GeorgDerReisende|GeorgDerReisende]] ([[User talk:GeorgDerReisende|talk]]) 16:3506, 4 December 2006 3 November 2012 (CET) == new bug == In the German part of this wiki actually I can't make edits, I always gets the answer: "Es ist ein Datenbankabfragefehler aufgetreten. Dies könnte auf einen Fehler in der Software hindeuten." --[[User:GeorgDerReisende|GeorgDerReisende]] ([[User talk:GeorgDerReisende|talk]]) 09:12, 27 July 2014 (UTC) == Trustroots advertisement == In my opinion the advertisement for Trustroots does not need to be here for years, mainly because Hitchwiki could (should!) behave like a proper commercial free, independent wiki, without its own agenda. The advertisement can repel potential users from Hitchwiki. Online hospex is not the same as hitch-hiking either and certainly not all hitch-hikers are interested in such service. --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 23:13, 21 July 2016 (CEST)