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== Copying from Wikipedia ==
== Maps ==
=== Question about Maps - Gas Stations ===
:Hey! I was wondering if it wouldn´t be nice to have the point-option "petrol station" on the hitchwiki map and assign it another picture than the hitchspot-circle? I already saw, that a few started to point them out as hitchspots, but that makes the map a little bit lesse readable in my opinion.
=== Warning: Unresponsive script ===
A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. <br>You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script will complete.<br>Script: http://maps.gstatic.com/intl/en_ALL/mapfiles/285c/maps2.api/main.js:75
Since a while now, if I login maps.hitchwiki.org, I'm getting the error message above and cannot use/edit the maps. Too bad :'(
: Did you try clicking continue? On slow computers, the site might load a while, as there are way too many hitchhiking spots for the browser to handle. What browser do you use?
: We are currently working on a completely new map which is way more efficient. You can already [[Hitchwiki:Maps|try it out here]], but it's not finished yet. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 19:49, 16 November 2010 (CET)
::It actually does not depend if I'm logged in or not. "Continue" seems to work but I have to click sometimes over 10 times to get the map and it takes ages... I'm using firefox 3.6.12 on a netbook.
::I'll have a look on the new map right now. Thanks for your work ;) [[User:Bikepunk|Bikepunk]] 14:20, 17 November 2010 (CET)
::: Yeah, looks like the old maps are not really netbook compatible :/ --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 14:23, 17 November 2010 (CET)
=== Google Maps extension ===
:Just wait for [[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] :) He'll probably set it up this week or so. [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 11:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:: Yeah, I can do that. Do you have any kind of messenger? --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 20:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
== Serbo-Croatian Hitchwiki ==
Along these slavic-speaking lines: I am fluent in croatian, and offer to start translating from english to croatian anytime. I also speak swedish fluently, and would do the same, but going by personal experience here, most swedes have a pretty decent understanding of english so I don't know how urgent a wiki like that would be. (Username here: Vrana)
==Images from [[:commons:|Wikimedia Commons]]==
* if you upload your hitchhike images there they can also be used in Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects
Enjoy! [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 23:58, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:One thing, re-using hitchwiki images (at least *jpg from English version) in the Russian wiki works fine (see [[:ru:Шаблон:Фотогалерея]]), but if I want to use a *png (e.g. [[:Image:Good.png]]) in the [[:ru:Шаблон:Хорошо|russian hitchwiki]], it redirects the image automatically to wikimedia, which is not that usefule (see [[:ru:Image:Good.png]]). Uploading the Image to the Russian Wiki is not possible, even when renaming it tells me it's a duplicate and uses the wikimedia commons image instead. Help! --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 13:03, 6 December 2010 (CET)
::Weird. I've checked LocalSettings.php and couldn't find any obvious things to change in order to fix this. [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 15:09, 6 December 2010 (CET)
== Turkish Hitchwiki Page ==
P.s. wavesporter(a)gmail.com
==Profiles listed at Country Pages==
Would it be hard and or considered nice to make a list of thumbs of users that are said to be based in a specific country, listed on the country-page or even maybe city-page? --[[User:Robino|Robino]] 01:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
==T shirts?==
I want a Hitchwiki t-shirt! :) How to make it happen? [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 13:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
# Someone design it.
# Use spreadshirt or something similar
# ?????
# Profit!
: --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 13:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:: MrTweek, the southpark nerd :) A T-shirt is a good idea. However, we don't even have a good logo yet (it looks like a work-in-progress-draft). I liked these [[Possible_Logo_Re-designs#Logo_4|thumb-rohrschachs]], but I don't have time to try to design something like that at the moment... maybe someone else? --[[User:Kb|Kb]] 13:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:: wanna have one! --[[User:Quarim|Quarim]] 14:43, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
It would also be a nice idea if me make some flyers and stickers for hitchwiki. i always meet other hitcher on the road who don't know about hitchwiki. for example this saturday i meet a guy from spain hitching all over europe and want to found a spanish hitchhikers club but don't know enough people. i always write a paper note with the url of hitchwiki, i do it so ofter. i want to have some flyers which i can store in my backpack.
stickers would be also nice because we can put them on the hitchhikers spots and people read it and come to hitchwiki. "this spot is adviced by hitchwiki.org ;)"
lets make hitchwiki the number one :) --[[User:Quarim|Quarim]] 08:01, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
: Flyers would even be quite cheap to produce. Anyone want to make one? Any ideas on how to pay for it? Anyone has experience with flatter? --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 08:19, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
::I really like the idea of leaving stickers at spots where you hitch from... I usually try to leave a message for fellow hitchers anyway so they don't feel so lonely ;-), and that would be a good way to draw attraction to my message, too - I don't think anybody ever read one of them^^. Anyway, how about a round yellow-orange-ish sticker about 10 cm in diameter with the logo (which is quite okay, as long as we don't have anything better), the url and maybe a cool slogan along the lines of "uniting the world's hitchhikers"?--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] 19:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
::P.S.: It might also be helpful with recreating (to a certain extent) the kinds of billboards/road side art/hitchhiker's pop culture on the road that existed in the 60es in the US on popular hitching spots. If that should be anybody's priority. Just imagine every hitchhiker would leave a piece of mind, a poem or a quote at every spot they hitched... wouldn't that be kinda cool?--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] 19:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
== RSS feed ==
I use the RSS feed as a bookmark in my browser. If one page is changed several times by the same user, the feed creates only one entry for that (which is handy), but this entry only shows the last change done by the user. I'd like to see all the changes of the user with one click on the RSS feed. Can we change this? --[[User:Kb|Kb]] 13:37, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
: Looks like this is more a feature request for MediaWiki. At least I can't find anything like that in the documentation. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 14:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
==Italiano?==
Se vuoi hitchwiki in italiano, si puo fare, ma meglio scrivere un po piu. :) 17:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
:Mr Tweek, where are you? ;-)--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] 19:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
:: Oops, I totally overlooked that :/ Still any interest? E mi Italiano non e bene. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 21:54, 8 November 2010 (CET)
== Winter warning on Northern countries? ==
I just saw [[Talk:Main_Page#New_Advise_Article|this idea]] and it seemed a good one, so shouldn't we maybe put a very small disclaimer box at the top of the articles of Northern countries such as Canada or Sweden linking to [[Winter]]? Or is that too patronising and stuff? I also thought that could replace the already existing parts about winter hitchhiking we already have in articles like [[Canada]]. Btw, if there is a better place to discuss things like that, please let me know :-)--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] 23:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
== Consistent naming of flags PNG's ==
Can we do something about the very inconsistent naming of file names for the flag files. There are currently two formats:
<ol>
<li>Flag of Whatever.png</li>
<li>Flag Whatever.png</li>
</ol>
It would be nice if we could decide upon one standard format (I'd suggest the one without "'''of'''", it saves typing) and change everything to that format - yes, I volunteer to help with this effort. It would also be nice if all flag files could be optimized, they are used in many, many, many pages. I have already done quite a few, but we should really consider pulling the .SVG files from Wikipedia and render them again, followed by an optimization phase using Ken Silverman's [http://advsys.net/ken/utils.htm#pngout PNGOUT].
For what it's worth, saving a flag like the Dutch in a 396x594 format results in a 317-byte .PNG file containing just 3 colors, while saving it in a 400x600 format results in a 527-byte .PNG file with 5(!) colors... And no, it's not because it's bigger, as rendering it in an even bigger 402x603 format results in a 321-byte .PNG file.
A horrible example of rendering even simple non-rectangular shapes is the Japanese flag: it contains just two colors, red and white, but my 396x594 rendering of the Wikipedia .SVG in the GIMP has 202(!) colors: pixels are square and it's pretty hard to make a circle out of squares without dithering!
: Yes, I agree that we should use a consistent naming scheme. Flag Whatever.png is fine for me. Although SVG would be even better, if we can get all flags in that format. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 21:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
: Have a look at [[Hitchwiki:Start_Page]]. I just replaced all the flags there with SVGs from wikimedia commons. Maybe we should do that everywhere? What do you think? There is always a risk in using 3rd party images (they can change them and we won't notice), but I think wikimedia is quite reliable, at least with flags. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 21:30, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
==Offer/find hospitality through Hitchwiki==
It's just a stub, but check [[:Category talk:Can host]], add your ideas and add <nowiki>{{CanHostIn|city|country}}</nowiki> to your user profile :) [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 22:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
== Survey addressed to the drivers which takes hitchhikers ==
Hi,
I like hitchhiking a lot. I work in small statistic company and I'm interesting of statistic. I'm going to make some survey addressed to the drivers which giving me a ride. Such survey can explore connections between many different factors which can decide of taking a ride by somebody, for example amount of siblings. I'm quite new here and I just realized that I can make an international survey with help on this community. If there are people interested of my idea I will willingly share the questionnaire and form to input data and after some time the results of the survey. Don't have project of the questionnaire finalized yet but I'll make it next week, I will share it here and will could discuss it before making pdf and printing. Are anybody interested? :) [[User:MusX]]
: We have a page about [[statistics]], not with very much info, but maybe the existing data (like e.g. [[User:Prino|Prino]]'s can be useful, and I'm sure more people will be interested as well. [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 16:25, 19 September 2010 (CEST)
:: See the new page, [http://prino.neocities.org/miscellaneous/keeping-statistics.html Keeping statistics] about what I keep track of to eventually produce my statistics. You may also want to have a look at the old (but apparently still running) survey Bernd Wechner ran, [http://bernd.wechner.info/Hitchhiking/Suite101/Survey/ The Suite 101 Hitch-hiking Survey]. [[User:Prino|Prino]] 22:01, 19 September 2010 (CEST)
== Blogging ==
:''moved here from [[User talk:Guaka]]''
Why is this not/no longer enabled. Given the (current) situation of Digihitch, I'd like to put my stories somewhere else, and this would be the most appropriate place, but on [http://blogs.hitchwiki.org/wp-signup.php Hitchwiki Blogs] you get "Registration has been disabled." message. :( [[User:Prino|Prino]] 08:48, 20 September 2010 (CEST)
:Although I recently upgraded WP MU + extensions, [[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] has mostly been doing the blog stuff. I think signup was disabled because there was too much spam but we can definitely enable sign-up for a day or even a week to see if it doesn't get overspammed. [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 11:07, 20 September 2010 (CEST)
:: No, we can't unfortunately :( As soon as we open the registrations, a lot of spam bots start their blogs and spam it completely. There were more than 900 blogs, containing nothing more than chinese spam. I really wish we could find a way, but it seems very difficult at the moment. We can still create blogs manually. I will make one for you. Do you want ''prino'' as username and blogname? --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 11:58, 20 September 2010 (CEST)
:::prino as user- and blogname will be OK, thanks! [[User:Prino|Prino]] 15:40, 20 September 2010 (CEST)
:::Maybe a prominent link on the blogs to a page here that will tell people how to get an account? :) [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 15:51, 20 September 2010 (CEST)
::::My first blog is there, can you also add me to the Blogroll on [http://blogs.hitchwiki.org/ Hitchwiki Blogs]
::::: Yup, added you to the Blogroll and to the [http://hitchwiki.org/planet/ hitchwiki planet]. Happy blogging ;) --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 23:21, 20 September 2010 (CEST)
== Hitchability per Country ==
...is determined how exactly? Right now, it looks like it's just one random opinion that's represented there. I'd propose that we do kind of an invisible count and put the average of all the different opinions that should gather. Do you think that doable/too much hassle/a good idea/something else?--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] 09:28, 21 September 2010 (CEST)
: Definitely a good idea. We have been thinking about that, but we'd have to write a plugin for that. Not too much work, but it is work. Hope someone will find the time for it ;) --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 10:18, 21 September 2010 (CEST)
::How do you define hitchablity? Is it the average waiting time - I've remove all countries with less than 10 rides:
<pre>
+------+---------------------------+---------------------------+---------------------------+
| | Wait <= 1 hour | Wait > 1 hour | Total |
| +------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+
| Cnty | # | Time | Avg wait | # | Time | Avg wait | # | Time | Avg wait |
+------+------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+
| A | 11 | 5.11 | 0:28:16 | 13 | 36.08 | 2:46:46 | 24 | 41.19 | 1:43:18 |
| B | 135 | 53.47 | 0:23:54 | 26 | 42.44 | 1:38:37 | 161 | 96.31 | 0:35:58 |
| D | 272 | 138.48 | 0:30:37 | 159 | 285.31 | 1:47:45 | 431 | 424.19 | 0:59:04 |
| DK | 37 | 16.15 | 0:26:21 | 12 | 20.01 | 1:40:05 | 49 | 36.16 | 0:44:24 |
| F | 12 | 5.46 | 0:28:50 | 24 | 74.37 | 3:06:32 | 36 | 80.23 | 2:13:58 |
| GB | 471 | 210.17 | 0:26:47 | 138 | 242.24 | 1:45:23 | 609 | 452.41 | 0:44:36 |
| GR | 20 | 10.41 | 0:32:03 | 21 | 48.20 | 2:18:06 | 41 | 59.01 | 1:26:22 |
| I | 46 | 27.54 | 0:36:23 | 27 | 48.36 | 1:48:00 | 73 | 76.30 | 1:02:53 |
| L | 10 | 3.46 | 0:22:36 | 4 | 6.34 | 1:38:30 | 14 | 10.20 | 0:44:17 |
| LT | 57 | 24.32 | 0:25:49 | 14 | 25.11 | 1:47:56 | 71 | 49.43 | 0:42:01 |
| N | 8 | 4.03 | 0:30:22 | 9 | 18.42 | 2:04:40 | 17 | 22.45 | 1:20:18 |
| NL | 146 | 58.40 | 0:24:07 | 37 | 69.19 | 1:52:24 | 183 | 127.59 | 0:41:58 |
| PL | 57 | 26.16 | 0:27:39 | 34 | 72.11 | 2:07:23 | 91 | 98.27 | 1:04:55 |
| S | 55 | 28.40 | 0:31:16 | 32 | 72.20 | 2:15:38 | 87 | 101.00 | 1:09:39 |
| SF | 13 | 5.36 | 0:25:51 | 2 | 3.44 | 1:52:00 | 15 | 9.20 | 0:37:20 |
| TR | 22 | 8.48 | 0:24:00 | 11 | 21.38 | 1:58:00 | 33 | 30.26 | 0:55:20 |
| YU | 7 | 3.49 | 0:32:43 | 16 | 48.29 | 3:01:49 | 23 | 52.18 | 2:16:26 | Old pre-breakup YU!
+------+------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+
</pre>
Or the average length of the ride - again I've cut out all countries with less than 10 rides:
<pre>
+------+------+--------+
| Cnty | # | Avg L |
+------+------+--------+
| A | 18 | 75.8 |
| B | 144 | 47.9 |
| D | 419 | 150.9 |
| DK | 57 | 49.8 |
| F | 17 | 43.8 |
| GB | 706 | 86.7 |
| GR | 63 | 117.4 |
| I | 81 | 137.6 |
| J | 16 | 29.7 |
| L | 12 | 17.4 |
| LT | 85 | 52.4 |
| N | 23 | 110.2 |
| NL | 182 | 36.5 |
| PL | 80 | 125.4 |
| S | 108 | 87.4 |
| SF | 19 | 69.0 |
| TR | 41 | 98.2 |
| YU | 25 | 233.2 | Old pre-breakup YU!
+------+------+--------+
</pre>
::Standard deviation would be interesting as well.
::The reachability and quality of hitchhiking spots also counts I think. On top of the people, the roads in the North of Italy are pretty bad for hitchhiking as well.
::Looking at these stats, I notice two interesting things: L is actually pretty bad for hitchhiking, ''except'' for the gas stations on the highway. I personally find F a great country to hitchhike, so I find it odd that it has the highest average waiting times after YU... [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 13:09, 22 September 2010 (CEST)
::It makes a difference if you are not alone as hitchhiker, those lifts should be removed too i think. are they? --13:25, 22 September 2010 (CEST)
::: I think waiting time is more important than length of lifts - at least that is my personal perception. I am more happy about short waiting times than about long lifts in general. I also find France a rather hard country to hitchhike. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 16:30, 22 September 2010 (CEST)
:::: This makes me think the languages spoken by the hitchhiker should also be taken into account... At least for locations where this matters, such as [[gas stations]]. [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 18:59, 22 September 2010 (CEST)
::::Re: Standard deviation: That's available in the "Totals per country" pages of the output of my stats programs, but far too big to post here, unless I cut out some selected countries. Germany is below, feel free to ask for others.
<pre>
+-------+------+---------+----------+--------+------+---------+----------+
| Wait | # | Time | W= | % | #C | CTime | W= | Second half of the table are the cumulative values.
+-------+------+---------+----------+--------+------+---------+----------+
| - W= | 268 | 134.48 | 0:30:11 | 62.18 | | | | 268 waits up to the average, average of those
| - 1SD | 106 | 142.07 | 1:20:27 | 24.59 | 374 | 276.55 | 0:44:26 | 106 between average and average + one standard deviation, average of those
| - 2SD | 41 | 88.19 | 2:09:15 | 9.51 | 415 | 365.14 | 0:52:48 | etc
| - 3SD | 8 | 24.03 | 3:00:22 | 1.86 | 423 | 389.17 | 0:55:13 | etc
+-------+------+---------+----------+--------+------+---------+----------+
| 3SD + | 8 | 35.02 | 4:22:45 | 1.86 | 431 | 424.19 | 0:59:04 | etc
+-------+------+---------+----------+--------+------+---------+----------+
| Total | 431 | 424.19 | 0:59:04 | | | SDev | 0:49:47 |
+-------+------+---------+----------+--------+------+---------+----------+
</pre>
::::Re: France: The only time I zipped through F was in June 2008, in the company of an attractive young lady who had never hitchhiked before, we did Porto-Luxembourg in 53:08
::::Re: Being alone or not: It might make a difference. I've had 2386 rides, my guess is that I was hitching alone for somewhere around 99% of them, so I do not think they have a great influence on the overal stats.
::::Re: Language: That helps, and it probably does have a measurable effect, but I speak Austrian (aka German) and my waiting times in A are well above average, whereas I don't speak Lithuanian, but my waiting times in LT are well below the average! [[User:Prino|Prino]] 00:24, 23 September 2010 (CEST)
:::::Wow to the effort everybody puts in this project! I personally doubt we can actually measure hitchability mathematically, because there is a lot of things playing into it that can't really be measured or fluctuate. Also, how would we find the "right" formula? Things that are important to consider, IMO: waiting times (combined with a car per minute count!), length of rides, readiness of people to pick up hitchhikers, number of cars that can actually pick up a hitchhiker compared to the population, languages people speak (as opposed to languages a hitcher speaks, because we have to calculate from a common denominator which would probably be close to a person that only speaks English), laws and how cops and also people in general react not only to hitchhikers as such but also to "alternative people" like hippies etc., if you have to pay for lifts and how much, etc., etc. Maybe we should do a thing like what they used to do on digihitch and split "hitchability" up into several fields such as a) waiting time b) length of rides c) friendliness... although I think in the end, it's a very subjective thing (because, except of Prino, I don't think anybody has stats that are close enough to an empirical study), so ''what I would propose is simply that every user should have the possibility to enter their subjective opinion ''(on the current scale from 1 to 5)'' once ''(with the future option of up- or downgrading it). Oh, and France rules :-)--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] 19:02, 24 September 2010 (CEST)
Ey, is there nobody interested in this anymore?--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] 19:06, 23 October 2010 (CEST)
== hello there! ==
just stumbled upon your website, and as an avid hitchiker myself, i think it's a marvelous idea! i would be more than happy to contribute my time to translate a hebrew wiki, so if you would like to, contact me at [email protected]
:שלם, MrTweek will probably set it up this week :) ואני רוצא לילמיד יברית [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 13:33, 25 October 2010 (CEST)
==Managing News==
I've set up [http://managingnews.hitchwiki.org/ a managing news installation for Hitchwiki]. It's pulling in recent changes from Hitchwikis in different languages.
The main point was to [http://managingnews.hitchwiki.org/node/14 keep an eye on inactive languages]. But it could do much more...
I can add more feeds to it as well. It could also replace our planet. It's very easy to add more feeds. And it gives out KML feeds :) [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 20:52, 28 October 2010 (CEST)
== Serbo-Croatian Hitchwiki ==
Not at all sure if I'm doing this right, I already posted something along these lines in the Community Talk, but I did not recieve a reply, and since I am horribly inept at any sort of wiki-editing (this will change), I have decided to try it once again, like this. (What I already posted once)
"Along these slavic-speaking lines: I am fluent in croatian, and offer to start translating from english to croatian anytime. I also speak swedish fluently, and would do the same, but going by personal experience here, most swedes have a pretty decent understanding of english so I don't know how urgent a wiki like that would be. (Username here: Vrana) "
Cheers
:Are there any other people around who speak Serbo-Croation? I might be able to help out a little bit, but not too much. [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 13:31, 14 November 2010 (CET)
: Yeah, sounds great. Do you have any kind of messenger, where I can contact you? ICQ, MSN or Google Talk would be great. Otherwise, e-mail would be ok as well. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 10:46, 15 November 2010 (CET)
:Don't know if there are a lot of Serbo-Croatian speakers around, but I can think of at least one or two anonymous users.
:No messeger. I could get one though. Email is all I have a the moment.--[[User:Vrana|Vrana]] 14:13, 15 November 2010 (CET)
==Wikilinks between Hitchwiki and Trashwiki==
We already kinda have a tradition on Trashwiki to add a wikilink to Hitchwiki when a new location article is created on Trashwiki (even if there is no brother-article on Hitchwiki yet). I would like to ask you, maybe you guys can do the same, too? That would save some time fishing out the articles for wikilinking afterwards. Right now almost all location articles on Trashwiki link to brother-Hitchwiki pages, but very rarely there is a link back to Trashwiki. (I understand that Hitchwiki is 3 times bigger and therefore there are more chances that a wikilink on Hitchwiki would link to an empty page, but the wikis grow every day after all...) --[[User:Sigurdas|Sigurdas]] 00:14, 17 January 2011 (CET)
: Done. I wrote a script that has set interwiki links to all existing Trashwiki-articles :) --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 14:06, 17 January 2011 (CET)
::Awesome!
::Would be good to log the bot in as Lanigiro, now there are tons of edits from an IP... [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 15:24, 17 January 2011 (CET)
::: Yeah, I tried, but for some reason it doesn't work. I am using wikipediafs and some quickly hacked shell scripts for that. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 15:26, 17 January 2011 (CET)
Why is inclusion of links to Trashwiki articles now broken? They appear at the end of the page instead of in the sitebar like they did a few weeks ago. [[User:CRCulver|CRCulver]] 19:45, 4 March 2011 (CET)
:Because of a MediaWiki upgrade... Some stuff does not easily go into MW's LocalSettings.php and has to be manually added to languages/Names.php after every upgrade. Easily forgotten of course. I'm fixing it now. Would be better to find a more durable fix of course... [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 22:48, 4 March 2011 (CET)
== Spammers, everywhere ==
Looks like we are kind of under attack by spambots. There were 17 until now, they solved the capture and created pages with job search links and similar stuff. I am not sure wether someone's doing this manually or if someone managed to crack the captcha.
We are using the very popular recaptcha, which makes it more likely that it is targeted by crackers, but also more likely that they will fix it very soon.
They come from completely different IPs and subnets, so no chance to ban them that way.
What I did so far:
* added rel=nofollow to all external links. This means that google & co ignore external links, which basically makes the spammers work worthless. I don't know if they realize that, though.
* Disabled Account Registration. I'll turn it on again tonight. We might be lucky and scare them away with this, but of course this is not a permanent solution.
Any other ideas, what we could do?
--[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 14:06, 27 January 2011 (CET)
: '''Update:''' I just checked the logs. They even use [http://yoshi.mega2000.de/~philipp/spammer-ips.txt different IPs] for each page access, so it's almost definitely a well distributed botnet. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 14:19, 27 January 2011 (CET)
=== CloudFlare ===
::I've set up [http://cloudflare.com/ CloudFlare] on [http://cultwiki.org/ cultwiki] and [http://casarobino.org casarobino] 2 days ago, no spammers have been on there since. It also seems to make sites slightly faster and it's completely free. If I'm still happy with it in a week or so we should consider setting it up here as well. [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 17:59, 16 December 2011 (CET)
== Password reset for blog not working ==
Besides the fact that I have big trouble with a mixed case username of the blog and a lowercase one for hitchwiki, the password reset for blogs gives me an "Sorry, that key does not appear to be valid." message when I click on the link in the email that I get when I ask for a new password. What am I doing wrong? Help!!!!!!
==$wgMaxCredits broken==
$wgMaxCredits = - 1 but it doesn't work: every page has "Based on work by different users of the hitchwiki community." now :/ [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 00:39, 21 April 2011 (CEST)
== Cannot login in Community ==
I've tried to log in "Community" with my hitchwiki.org account and I'm getting :
ERROR: Invalid username. Lost your password?
--[[User:Bikepunk|Bikepunk]] 15:32, 15 May 2011 (CEST)
: The problem remain. --[[User:Bikepunk|Bikepunk]] 12:05, 4 June 2011 (CEST)
==Discussion directly on [[Hitchwiki:Community Portal]]?==
I guess it could be clearer to have discussions not on this talk page but directly on [[Hitchwiki:Community Portal]]? Then it's only click away from any other page. Often it seems that it's not clear to people they can use this so they go to user talk pages instead. Which works as well, but I think some people might just leave it with that and not write down what's on their mind - plus it's easier to just "watch" one page to stay updated. I propose to have at least 4 discussions directly on the portal, and move the finished discussions to archived pages. Whaddayathink? [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 15:54, 28 May 2011 (CEST)
:ACK: Also I'd propose to merge the main page talk into it by archiving and re-directing, as it seems to be kind of "general" talk as well.--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] 20:52, 28 May 2011 (CEST)
:: I do agree [[User:Bikepunk|Bikepunk]] 00:23, 30 May 2011 (CEST)
:: Cool if no one thinks this is a bad idea we can do this in the next week or so... [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 14:19, 3 June 2011 (CEST)
==[[Why I Hitchhike|Why do you hitchhike]]?==
This one can use some more additions :) [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 14:19, 3 June 2011 (CEST)
== Merged article on crossing from UK to continental Europe ==
I think we need an article which would serve as joined source of information on how to cross UK<->Europe, including all the different options: Channel Tunnel/Ferry, Folkestorne/Dover, Calais, etc, because now everything is spread over at least 4 articles. --[[User:Ignas|Ignas]]
: Yup, I absolutely agree and you are very welcome to do so ;). I'd propose create a new article called [[English Channel]] (same name as on wikipedia), collect all the information there and link/redirect the old articles. Let us know, if you need any help with this. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 22:19, 6 June 2011 (CEST)
:: K, I will try to do that at some point later .) --[[User:Ignas|Ignas]] 16:29, 12 June 2011 (CEST)
== Cheap and safe travel from Europe to India and New Zealand ==
Hi,
Could anybody recommend cheap and safe travel from Europe to India and New Zealand?
I never been outside of Europe. Country like Iran, Iraq seems to be very risky.
Is there any good path to follow to get to India from central Europe?
After some time in India I would like to travel to New Zealand, any flights seems to be very expensive.
Any good option for that travel maybe?
Thanks in advance! :)
== "Hitchability" ==
Hey, everybody,
please check out what I wrote about the current system of hitachbility ratings [[Talk:Hitchability_World_Map#POV...|here]]. I'm not very happy, and I don't think a new system would be very hard to implement and to make public. Thanks for your attention :-)--[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] 22:51, 31 August 2011 (CEST)
== Top menu bug ==
I don't know where to write it... so probably here...
Top menu (left part) doesn't work properly, only bottom side of the links works. Tested in Chrome and older Firefox. --[[User:Kundrt|Kundrt]] 11:40, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
:It's been bothering me for a while now. Thanks for getting me onto this again. I kinda had to move the "personal" links on the top but at least the links on the left are working properly now. Check [http://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AMonobook.css&action=historysubmit&diff=57061&oldid=42577 the changes] - and feel free to comment or suggest other improvements. [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 00:31, 29 October 2011 (CEST)
:(You may have to refresh the page to see the change. Ctrl-R does that on many browsers.) [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 00:35, 29 October 2011 (CEST)
:: I was playing with styles in Chrome now. Try to change absolute position #p-personal from '''left: 0;''' to '''right: 0;''' and set also #p-personal width to 50-60%. And delete your last changes - width+margin in /* making sure hitchwiki links in top left aren't masked */. In Chrome it works (that left part is on the left and not masked, and right part on the right. I can't test it in other browsers now. -[[User:Kundrt|Kundrt]] 16:49, 29 October 2011 (CEST)
::: This didn't do it for me though, also in Chrome:
<pre>
#p-personal {
width: 50%;
right: 0;
position: absolute;
}
</pre>
::: I just made you sysop so you can edit [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] yourself as well, please fill in [[User:Kundrt|your userpage]] and don't abuse your newly found powers ;) [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 19:24, 29 October 2011 (CEST)
:::: Thanks for trust. I'm making my profile slowly :) And why it doesn't work, it's caused by '''left: 0;''' in main.css. When you write later '''right: 0;''' it doesn't cause switching-of of '''left: 0;''' So finally I've found how to do that -> '''left: auto;''' <br />So I tried to change that - watch (ctrl+r) and please check it in other browsers I have to go for a beer, already late... -[[User:Kundrt|Kundrt]] 20:03, 29 October 2011 (CEST)
::::: Thanks, it also works in FF and Konqueror. That (+Chrome) covers way more than half of Hitchwiki's visitors :D [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 20:13, 29 October 2011 (CEST)
== <span class=plainlinks>[http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Liquidthreads Liquid threads]</span> ==
Would this be a good thing to install? --{{User:Myrtonos/sig}} 15:51, 28 November 2011 (CET)
: Why do you think we need this? I didn't see anyone complaining about our discussion structures. But if many people want it, I'll be happy to install it --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 13:02, 4 December 2011 (CET)
See <span class=plainlinks>[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Liquidthreads#Rationale Rationale]</span> --{{User:Myrtonos/sig}} 12:07, 7 December 2011 (CET)
:I think it could be a good extension to have, as it would be easier for more people to take part in discussions or even just to ask questions. (And it won't be needed to suggest <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signing to newbies anymore :) [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 00:10, 8 December 2011 (CET)
== hitchhiking website in the news ==
hey, i wonder what is the connection between that ridesharing website and hitchhiking, except for the name? i'm not sure if to handle that as spam/advertisement or relevant to the purpose of hitchwiki. --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 18:34, 3 December 2011 (CET)
:Ride-sharing is '''not''' hitchhiking. I would consider it link-spam and if I were in charge it would be gone by now... [[User:Prino|Prino]] 20:23, 3 December 2011 (CET)
:: Yes, I guess we all agree that this is not hitchhiking. I think the only place for such pages should be [[Rideshare]] and maybe personal pages, but this definitely does not belong into the news. Also, they claim that it's free but in fact, the one who offers the lifts choses the price, so this is not even anything special amongst all the other ridesharing websites. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 13:00, 4 December 2011 (CET)
:All right, thanks for deletion. Prino, you didn't get deletion rights yet? --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 21:15, 7 December 2011 (CET)
== Where to sleep while on the road ==
Hello. I want to propose a new section/page for information about where/how sleep while hitchhiking.
It started by [http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=12&post=11892041 this thread] in the CS groups (you might need to be login). There there's a lot of common information, thinks that most of us do and new tips that only came from experience. I wrote there:
: I see recommendations divided into wiki pages, like "Train Station", "Beach", ... And a more general one with some of the community knowledge found here. We could also make a page for each place and put detailed information of the places we slept.
What do you think ? [[User:Joksnet|Juan Manuel]] 13:16, 6 May 2012 (CEST)
:: Sure, feel free to just create a page about sleeping. We are not that bureaucratic, you can basically do what you want here, as long as it's not complete nonsense and somehow related to hitchhiking. We already have information about sleeping in many city articles, but a generic one sounds good to me. ;) --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 16:05, 6 May 2012 (CEST)
== IP address blocked - give admin rights as workaround? ==
ı have many contrıbutıons to make to thıs websıte but everytıme ı try ı get blocked. please help me!
my name ıs seankng123
...
but now ıts workıng! never mınd, but ım stıll confused
:Hi Sean. We've had many spammers on this site - and we try to block these. This also includes the IP addresses that were used by the spambots. And you might be using such an IP address. [[User:Mboschm|Marc]] had the same problem and we resolved it by making him admin here... I think this could be a way to do it.
:I'm fine with giving admin rights on Hitchwiki to any hitchhiker who's willing to make good contributions here. The only soft condition would be for people to have a real user page (ideally with a link to another network and/or full name). There are enough active folks to check if admin rights aren't abuse in any way. What do other people think? --[[User:Guaka|guaka]] 13:28, 23 May 2012 (CEST)
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