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Generally, when choosing which train to take, opt for express trains - those with fewest stops, as you are unlikely to get far with regional ones - and you may get stuck in a station where almost no trains stop. It's very useful to memorize (or write down) the timetable, so that you instantly know which is the best train to take after you get kicked out of the previous one.
In central Europe (Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Lithuania...) - you can use dance style tat is called short distant ticket trick. Conductor usually check only new passengers and he do not remember their final destination. So you buy ticket only for short distance and you show it to conductor. But after final destination on the ticket you continue journey, sit and sleep. This is not complete free, but cheap. More difficult dance style is similar. Blue dancer come and he check new passengers. You are new but you do not respond }sleep, look out of window, read a book).
 
== [[Austria]] ==
 
Austria is not so big country in the middle of Europe and big part of this country is with mountains – Alps. There is big motorway A1 from Germany to Hungary (Munchen – Salzburg – Linz – Wien – Budapest). You can easily hitchhike there at exit of fuel stations. Another motorway goes to south – not so far from Rosenheim (Germany), the A1 motorway split to Munchen and south branch to Insbruck and Kufstein. And around Insbruck – the motorway spilts too – one direction to west (Switzerland) and one direction to Italy (Brenero, Bolzano, Verona). Insburck is big crossroad with beauty-full mountains around (up to 3300 m.n.m.). One hitchhiking place is fuel station before Insbruck. Many cars go to Italy (Sea, Skying), but there are only few cars in this fuel station and many hichhikers waited there very long. Another possibility is hitchiking with sign (Italy, Switzerland, Salzburg, Germany) before entrance to motorway in east Insbruck. Hitchhiking to Italy or Switzerland can be really badly. If hitchhiking does not work, you just go to train station. Is it easy to jump on bus inside Insbruck (or another city in Austria) (penalty in city public transport can be for example in Wien 103 Eur) and you can go to train station or big road at the end of city.
 
If you want escape from cold to Italy. You try to get to Insbruck and from Insbruck to Brennero and Italy. But hitchhiking does not work so good from Insbruck to Italy. Brennero-Brenner is border Austria-Italy. It is around 1200 m above sea, it is narrow valley between mountains. There is motorway and rail road. It is highest and coldest point of journey. There is snow usually from November-December to March-April. Mountains around are high – up to 3300-3700 m above sea. And there is already snow in July in some places up in mountains. There is a lot of police checking in Brennero because of migration. Train track goes not so fast downhill to Insbruck (around 38km long by road). And train track goes quite fast downhill to Bolzano with a lot of tunnels. There is warmer in Bolzano than in Isbruck or Brennero, but Alps are there still, mountains and hills continue to Tremto, Rovento. Just around 30 km before Verona is tunnel for train, it means end of hills and warm low-land with palms. And south from Verona to Sicily – temperature rises, but quite slowly. It is long journey and around 5-10 degrees difference between Verona and Sicily.
 
Train stations in Austria are quite good. You can find on the station all trains (arrivals and departures) with all stops for every train and time for arrive and departure in every stop during trip. It is important. Some small stations for local trains can be without waiting room, But big stations are open during night (just some sitting places are closed), because of night trains. But it can be quite cold in the stations too, not so good heating system can be there.
There is no ticket control during entering into station or entering into train. But if your appearance is like homeless or backpacker, conductor can ask you for a ticket while entering into night train. There are not so many passengers in night trains.
 
Conductor usually does not check toilets. You can try to hide there and does not lock the door. But do not stay in toilet too long, because another passengers can go there too. Stay there just when conductor is passing around. Or you can just play like you were already checked or you just hide between many passengers, especially close to bigger town. You tan try short distance ticket trick in regional trains R and REX. You buy ticket for 15-40 km (around 5-8 Eur), you let be checked and you continue much further after. But it is quite expensive in EC and RailJet trains with not so many stops. If you are captured, you can be simply kicked out, especially from regional train. There is bigger probability, that conductor write fine for you in EC, RailJet or night train. Or he just kick you out. Some Peter's friends was captured in Austria (Austrian residents too), and they sometimes got fine, which will be never paid, or they has been kicked out.
 
There are really a lot of police in trains from Italy to Austria and Germany (especially direction to Germany), and maybe in trains from Wien to Munchen can be police too. They control everything on platforms and many times in train (especially close to Italy-Austria border), because of Immigrants. Police checks toilets, space under seats too. But they are searching for immigrants, they do not check usually European people. And they checks ID, not tickets. But they can check some drug smuggling too.
First type is regional dance floor R. This train have a lot of stops, every 3-10 km. Interval to next train is usually 1-2 hours. PeterOB have not tried this dance floor. There can be a lot of people inside close to big city and conductor can go only one time, or not so often. But it is dubious.
The REX dance floor is similar to R dance floor. But distance between stops is bigger, around 15-30 km and interval to next train can be around 2 hour (include R trains shorter).
You can try short distance ticket trick – you buy ticket only for short distance (around 15-30 km, it cost 6-8 Eur), you will show ticket and you will continue longer than destination in you ticket. Or you can try to hide between passengers close to big town or toilet tactic (you just sit on toilet when conductor goes around and you don't lock the door). You can play that you were already checked after first control too, when conductor goes around.
 
If you want to go to Italy, stops for REX train are: (Innsbruck Hbf, Matrei am Brenner, Steinach in Tirol, Brennero/Brenner – border with Italy, few stations to Bolzano (3 or 7)). From Brennero to Bolzano is easy to dance – Italian regional train goes there, usually without checking. From Italy to North – there is regional train (treno regionale) from Bolzano to Brenero once a hour. Conductor usually do not check tickets but police is searching for immigrants. There is truck stop with wingette selling for Austria and fuel station in Brenero. Really Lot of trucks are there. But you have to cross motorway with not so many cars. You have to be careful during this action. Or you can take EC train from Verona to Germany, it is one stop from Brennero to Insbruck, and conductor goes there (and police too). Then you take for free city bus to east Insbruck and there is entrance to motorway.
 
Night trains are good, because they have not so many stops. But there are only beds with reservation and it is possible that you can't get inside coupe and you stay at corridor with backpack and conductor will see you. These trains are international, with police, and conductors too, of course. And conductor might ask you for a ticket during boarding. But these trains are quite long and you just get in as in shade as possible.
If you want to go to Italy, from Insbruck – stops are Munchen or Wien …...... Insbruck HBF, Brennero (border), Brixeno, Bolzano, Tremto, Verona …..… Rome, Bolonga or Milano or Venezia.
 
R 409 is best night-day train from Moscow to France, it is the best, with fewest stops:
 
Moskva Belorusskaja 11:18, Wjasma 14:10-14:36, Smolensk 16:33-16:38, Orscha Central 17:49-18:05, Minsk(BY) 20:22-20:37, Brest Central 0:24-0:50, Terespol 1:08-1:58, Warszawa Wschodnia 3:49, Warszawa Centralna 4:25, Warszawa Zachodnia 4:35 , Katowice 7:13-7:18, Zebrzydowice 8:22-8:23, Bohumín 8:43-9:07, Břeclav 10:50-11:18, Wien Hbf 12:27-12:41, Linz Hbf 14:19-14:26, Bischofshofen 17:37-17:41, Innsbruck Hbf 20:44-21:21, Brennero/Brenner 22:00, Bolzano/Bozen 23:53-23:55, Verona Porta Nuova 1:16, Milano Rogoredo 2:55, Genova Piazza Principe 4:34, San Remo 6:44-6:46, Bordighera 6:58-7:00, Ventimiglia 7:10-7:58 , Menton 8:08-8:10, Monaco-Monte-Carlo 8:19-8:21,Nice Ville 8:34
 
But long journey train R409 does not go every day.
 
Next type is EC train. EC train goes usually once a 1 hour or once a 2 hour. Distance between stops are usually 30-80 km, conductor goes usually every stops. PeterOB tried only two EC trains for one stop only, he was hiding in toilet with unlocked doors when conductor pass around. But you can just play that you were already checked. Ticket for shorter distance than you go is possible, but not so cheap. And some EC trains (from-to Italy) are only with few passengers, these trains are quite empty. There are lot of coops in direction from Italy to Germany and they look everywhere (toilets, under seats), because they check immigrants.
 
There are EC trains from Munchen (DE) to Verona (IT) once a two hours, in both directions. Some trains continue from-to Venecia or Bolonga. Stops are: (München Hbf , München Ost, Rosenheim , Kufstein, Wörgl Hbf, Jenbach, Innsbruck Hbf, Brennero/Brenner, Fortezza/Franzensfeste, Bressanone/Brixen, Bolzano/Bozen, Trento, Rovereto, Verona Porta Nuova, Bologna Centrale, or erona Porta Nuova, Vicenza, Padova, Venezia Mestre , Venezia Santa Lucia). There are Italian conductors in Italy and probably German conductors in Germany.
Situation between Insbruck and Rosenheim is better, because there goes RailJet train to Wien once a hour.
 
Next and best type of dance floor is blue Railjet, because of fewest stops. The distance between stops is around 40-100 km or even longer. There are usually two conductors and a lot of passengers. You can hide in toilet and play shitting when conductor is passing around, PeterOB already tried it succesfully. Or you can try just be between passengers and play that you were already checked.
 
Railjet or EC dance floor Munchen (DE) – Wien (- Budapest) goes once a two hours, but between Salzburg and Wien more than once a hour: Journey Munchen-Wien takes only 4 hours and 2:40 hours from Wien to Budapest, stops are (München Hbf, Salzburg Hbf , Linz Hbf, St.Pölten Hbf, Wien Meidling, Wien Hbf ) and some Railjet dance floors from Munchen continues to Hungary ( Wien Hbf, Hegyeshalom, Mosonmagyarovar, Györ, Tatabanya, Budapest-Kelenföld, Budapest-Keleti pu). The Night train (EN 463 Kalman Imre) has the same stops (München Hbf 23:35 …... Wien Hbf 6:35-6:39 …... Budapest-Keleti pu (9:24).
 
Wien – Budapest: The journey is around 2:40 hours, RailJet dance floor goes every hour, stops are already written one article up. Railjet or EC dance floors usually begins at Munchen Hbf. Some EC dance floors continues behind Budapest, for example 4 hours more to Nyiregyhaza , stops are: (Budapest-Keleti pu, Szolnok, Törökszentmiklos, Kisujszallas, Karcag, Püspökladany, Hajduszoboszlo, Debrecen, Nyiregyhaza).
 
(Zürich HB - Switzerland) - Insbruck-Wien: It is around 4:15 hod long journey, RailJet trains goes every hour (from Zürich HB to Insbruck Hbf once a two hours). Some RailJets begin in Switzerland (Zürich HB) and some RailJet trains does not stops between Salzburg and Insbruck. Stops are: (Zürich HB , Sargans , Buchs SG, Feldkirch, Bludenz, St. Anton am Arlberg, Landeck-Zams, Imst-Pitztal, Ötztal, Innsbruck Hbf, Wörgl Hbf , Kufstein, Salzburg Hbf, Linz Hbf, St.Pölten Hbf, Wien Meidling, Wien Hbf, Flughafen Wien).
Wien – Bratislava SK: There are local dance floors from Slovakian dancing company, train runs once a 30-60 min from 4am to midnight. It is 66 km and 66 minutes and 7 stops. You can try just hide between passengers or in toilet. Short distance ticket trick can be more difficult. Stops are: (Wien Hbf, Wien Simmering, Wien Stadlau , Wien Hausfeldstrass, Siebenbrunn-Leopoldsdorf, Marchegg, Devínska N.Ves, Bratislava hl.st.).
 
From Graz to Wien and Czech Republic. There is RailJet dance floor once a 2 hours (Graz – Wien - Prague), and few EC dance floors. It is 90 km and 54 minutes from Wien Hbf to first Czech station Breclav. Most of trains are RailJet and they continue to Brno, Prague. Stops are (Graz Hbf , Bruck/Mur, Kapfenberg, Mürzzuschlag, Semmering, Wiener Neustadt Hbf, Wien Meidling, Wien Hbf, Breclav, Brno hl.n., Ceska Trebova, Pardubice hl.n. Praha hl.n.). RJ from Wien 19:02 has four more stops in Czech – Blansko, Letovice, Svitavy, Kolin.
 
There are EC trains, which goes from Wien to Breclav and Ostrava, Bohumin, Poland. EC 104 Sobieski 8:10 from Wien continue to Breclav, Hodonin, Ostravava hl.n. 10:5911:01, Warszawa Centralna 15:04-15:20, Gdansk Glowny 11:11-18:14, Gdynia Glowna 18:36. From Wien 14:10 EC 102 Polonia continue to Warszawa, the same EC 406 Chopin from Wien 22:50 to Warszawa and D 100 Moravia (with beds too) from Wien 18:10 to Bohumin 21:08.
It is only one stop from Wien to Breclav (CZ), 8 stops from Breclav to Bohumin (last CZ station), 9 stops from Bohumin to Warszawa Centralna, 6 stops from Warszawa Centralna to Gdansk Glowny and from Gdansk Glowny last 5 stops to Gdynia Glowna (18:36). Only train from Wien 8:10 continue behind Warszawa to Baltic sea (Gdansk).
 
There are local dance floors from Wien to Breclav too, they runs once a two hours, it is from Wien Hbf 1:29 hour and 9 stops in Wien, 14 more stops to Breclav after Wien. This train can be with a lot of passengers close to Wien and conductor can go only 1-2 times. But it is much more better to take EC or RailJet dance floor without stop between Wien and Breclav, than local dance floor R or REX with lot of stops.
 
There are trains from Linz to CZ (Ceske Budejovice and Prague). It can be only 5 stops from Linz to Summerau (last stop in Austria), next stop is Horni Dvoriste (CZ) and 10 more stops to Ceske Budejovice. But some local trains from Linz hbf has 14 stops to Summerau and 12 stops from Horni Dvoriste to Ceske Budejovice. Many stops are Request only. REX trains has from Linz 5 stops to Summerau usually and stops in Czech: (Rubnik, Kaplice, Velesin mesto, Ceske Budejovice, Tabor, Praha hl.n., Praha Holesovice – not so many stops in Czech Republic). There is usually one local train from Linz to Ceske Budejovice once a 2 hours and REX train from Linz directly to Prague only once 4-6 hours, these trains are best with fewest stops in Czech.
 
Last type of train is ICE dance floor. ICE trains goes usually in Germany and only few ICE goes to Austria. One ICE goes from Wien to Munchen and Hamburg. Another ICE goes from Insbruck to Munchen and more further (Berlin, Hamburg). ICE has in Austria the same stops like RailJet or IC trains, but in Germany – ICE are faster (up to 300 kph) and with not so many stops. Distance between stops can be 100-500 km. Conductor check it in Germany very hard and you can get fine or conductor call the police. Germany is not recommended for BlackRiding. PeterOB's friend was two times captured in Germany (train and tram) and he was 14 days in prison. But it is probably not so hard now, it was few years back. Usually only one or two ICE a day gets from-to Wien or Insbruck.
 
== [[Belgium]] ==
: Much to their own annoyance, '''Belgian railway staff do not have any legal right to ask for your ID''', so under no circumstances show it when they ask for it! [[User:Prino|Prino]] 09:58, 3 May 2011 (CEST)
 
 
== [[Czech Republic]] and [[Slovakia]] ==
:''Besides, on night trains they DO check regularly. Years ago it was much looser, but not anymore''
[[User:PeterOB|PeterOB]] went to sea in Italy near Venecia and Padovas Padova in June 2015 and he was dancing a lot with Italian trains. The phrase Fines do not exist is not complete true. First dance floor, which [[User:PeterOB|PeterOB]] used in Italy, was EC Train from Munchen (South Germany) to Verona (North Italy) and blue dancer (conductor) want to give him fine and just prepare block for fines in DB Bahn. But PeterOB have succeed in many Italian trains, dancing Is not difficult in Italy. First type is regional dance floor - Treno Regionale. This type of train have distance between stops 5-30 km, usually 10-20 km. Journey of this type of train is about 100-250 km and it takes 2-3 hours with 10-20 stops. Regional trains are quite fast. This type of trains have only one conductor and conductor do not check tickets so often, he go only one-two times during whole journey, usually once 4-8 stops only. And regional dance floors close to big city (Milan, Bolzano, Etc.) are best – conductor often do not check tickets for whole journey. You can find conductor in stop quite easy – he wear blue-black suit and white shirt. Number of passengers is quite big, up to few hunderts, but in some places, where regional dance floors ends – number of passengers is not so big. Some regional trains are quite crowded near big town. Conductor asks for ticket usually all passengers during checking, tot only new passengers (and time to next control is long). You never know, when conductor go. You can watch during trip if conductor is coming and walk around conductor during ride without backpack and in the area where ticket were already checked wait until conductor finish your wagon and go back after it but conductor go out of train in stops for give sign to driver – you can in this time go behind conductor in the train easy. You can do sit in WC, do not lock door and hold toilet paper – play shitting during control, not for whole journey – another passengers wants go to WC too. Because of not so often checking ticket and checking all passengers – you can not use Short Distance Ticket Trick or play that you were already checked like in central Europe. If you are found that you travel without ticket, conductor will ask you for buy ticket, but you will say that you have no money. Conductor usually ask you, where is your final destination and sometimes let you travel or kick you out. Sometimes, conductor ask you for passport, bat you will say that you do not have. He let you be. There are no coops in regional trains and conductor do not call police. Most of conductors are nice to free riders and speaks English good. Interval between regional trains is usually 1 hour and trains go from early morning to late evening. Some types of regional train have a lot of short wagons (8-12) and it is not visible so far in this train, where conductor is now. But some trains in north, near Bolzano in mountains are better – you can see whole area of train and where is conductor now and this trains are sometimes crowded and have stops and arriving time in monitors. In trains close to Bolzano – there are a lot of police because of immigrants. They as for ID only dark persons and they do not ask ticket. It is in regional train Bolzano – Brennero and EC Trains Verona – Bolzano – Insbruck – Munich. Some faster regional dance floors (RGV in Sicily, Austrian REX from Insbruck to Bolzano and back) have not so many stops and regional dance floors with long distance have not so many stops like trains close to big city. Next type of dance floor is FB FRECCIABIANCA. This type of train have probably two conductors and about 5-9 long carriages, you can see all carriage area (no coupes) and but not to other carriages. FS trains usually go for long distance, hunderds kilometers and distance between stops is 30-80 km. Speed of this train is quite fast, PeterOB thinks about 100-180 km/h between stops, so dance is relative fast. Conductor go usually once 2-4 stops (or more) and probably check only new passengers. As you can see in information board, this type of trains required seat reservation (maybe because of a lot of passengers and maybe for checking tickets) and ticket is more expensive than in regional train, but you travel compete free. Amount of passengers is quite big, but sometimes not so big. Interval to next train is usually 1 hour and trains go from early morning to late evening. It is not like in Treno Alta Velocita (AV at departure table), where conductor have in tablet, which seat is free and which seat should be checked. You can wait until your wagon is complete checked and you stay sit on toilet without locked doors (like shitting). Of course, you can use short distance ticket trick or play that you was already checked, just sit calmly. If you are find that you travel without ticket, conductor ask you for buy ticket first. But you have no money. So conductor usually just kick you oft of train or he might ask you for passport in some occasions or let you travel without ticket. You can tell to him that you have no passport. There is no coops or security in this type of trains and time to next stop is not so long because of high speed.  Some dance floors are Treno Alta velocita. If you want to dance fast and scary, this is good type for it. There are three type of dance floors Treno Alta Velocita (AV at departure board). Dancing is really scary and fast, somewhere 200-250 kph, somewhere (Between Roma and Napoli or Between Firenze and Bolonga, the speed is up to 300 kph). There are a lot of dance floors Treno Alta Velocita between Bolonga – Firenze – Roma – Napoli, usualy once 15-30 min. There is no stop between Napoli and Roma Termini (it is 4 stops with EC trains) and stops with AV trains are usually Milano, Bolonga, Firenze, Roma Tiburtina, Roma Tremini, Napoli Centrale (CLE). Some AV trains goes from Bolonga to Padova and Venezia, some trains AV stops in Arrezo, but some AV trains do not stop between Bolonga and Rome. Trains AV (Treno Alta Velocita) goes from Bolzano to Rome and Napoli (Grey one), stops are Bolzano, Tremto, Roverto, Verona, Bolonga, Firenze, Roma Tiburtina, Roma Tremini, Napoli Centrale (CLE).Some AV Trains goes from-to Brescia and Verona and some from Torino to Milano. High-Speed dance floor - Treno Alta Velocita FR FRECCIAROSSA (Trenitalia). This train is blue-green-white and blue at departure paper, with AV at departure board. There are 2-3 conductors, they first go through train fast without checking and they checking tickets once 1-2 stations. They come suddenly sometimes – one conductor in one side of coach and they have in tablet which seat is free, checked, should be checked. It is to late to escape, they do not let you. You can watch, when conductors are near, then you go to toilet and you do not lock the door and you sit like shitting. But there are lot of cleaning workers – they check toilets 1-2 times between stations, before and after conductors go. And some passengers goes to toilet too. So you should make timing before conductor go and after cleaner goes (if cleaner will see you in toilet first time, he usually let you be, but it is dubious). When the conductor will go back and you will be at corridor, you could be checked – so you should to sit on free seat fast after checking. If you will be found without ticket, you will be probably kicked out, but some conductors want to write fine, not so often, or they ask for ID (if you give ID card instead of passport, it is better). PeterOB was dancing in this type of dance floor a lot. Sometimes – he successfully hide during checking, sometimes, he was found and he was kicked out. But he jump back on another side of long train, cleaner of toilet found him and conductor write his ID card. FA FRECCIARGENTO is similar high-speed dance floor Treno Alta velocita, like FR FRECCIAROSSA, but this type is grey in departure plan (big yellow paper).There are another luxury High Sped trains in Italy with wifi, drinks and food in every coach and strewards from  Trenitalia – Red Treno Alta Velocita with runung lupus - FR FRECCIAROSSA ? This train is red with running lupus and it is red in departure paper, with AV at departure table. There is streeward in red suit in every wagon and he ask ticket, if your appearance is not usual, streeward ask you for ticket before departure (many people are there in suit or good dressed of course). There is team for cleaning and checking WC before and some times after ticket checking and conductors in blue suit for departure echo. Streeward has in tablet, which seat is checked, free, should be checked, and he goes every station and it is one streward per wagon, so this train is most difficult and probability of fine is biggest. PeterOB tried this type of dance floor but when he get in, streeward ask him for a ticket, it is really difficult, this train. There is another type of high-speed dance floor – Treno Alta Velocita – Purple Treno Italiano (not trenitalia) train with running lupus (purple Treno Italiano at departure paper, AV in departure table). This train has two conductors in blue suit for departure signal and some conductors in red suits for ticket checking. There is one red conductor per few wagons, not streeward in every wagon. It is similar – red conductors goes almost every station, he has in tablet, which seat should be checked, is free,was checked and if you are in corridor and you go back, conductor probably check you, if you pass around him calmly, you can be successful, but next station, you can be checked. This train is relative expensive (Eur 39 from Rome to Verona). You can try to hide in toilet, but there is cleaning team too, and they look inside toilet before and sometimes after checking too. It is quite difficult to hide inside toilet in all Treno Alta Velocita. If you are captured, you can be just kicked out or probability of fine is here bigger than in blue or grey Treno Alta Velocita (Freccigarossa). PeterOB has bad luck in this train. He traveled two stations and first stations, he joust passed calmly around conductor. But in next station conductor ask him for a ticket. He told that he is in bad train and conductor asked him, where he get in. First, conductor wanted to make ticket or fine. He told just bad station and conductor got upset and he went away. PeterOB stand in toilet, when train stand in some regional station and when conductor checks tickets again. He just get of in his next station, but unfortunately, police was already in station and they took his ID. Next type of train is EC train (IC Train). EC trains are usually international (from Germany, Austria or France, or Switzerland to Italy, these trains usually does not belongs to some Italian dancing company, but there are Italian conductors inside Italy, they changed at border. These trains go for long distance. Distance between stops is usually 20-100 km. Interval to next train is 1-4 hours (better use regional train usually, but it depends, where you are), ticket price about Eur 1 per 8-10 km, speed in normal, usually 100-150+ kph. EC trains have sometimes a lot, not so much passengers and two conductor s. EC trains are quite long, you can hide between passengers during entering the train. There are usually enough passengers. Conductors go once 1-3 stations, and they check only new passengers. Sometimes, there is conductor crew change at border with Austria or Switzerland, in Messina (In-Out from Sicily) or is some big cities (Rome, Napoli) and new conductors checks all passengers again. Toilets are not usually checked, especially if you do not lock the door (but passengers are going to WC too). If you are found that you have no ticket, you will be just kicked out. But some places in south Italy have not so many trains per day. There are a lot of coops in trains from Italy to Austria, Switzerland, Germany, they check ID of dark passengers, because of immigrants. Coops look everywhere – toilets, under seats, etc. They do not check tickets. If you will be found without ticket by conductor, you will be just kicked out. Night dance floors ICN or ECN, they go during night. Interval between stops is about 50-100 (or even 300+) km and journey length is quite long, usually more than 1000 km. There are only 1-2 night trains per night. Night trains can go from-to Germany or France, usually to Rome or Milano and some trains go from Rome or Milano to Sicily (Siracusa, Palermo), or from Sicily to Milano or Rome. This trains have a lot of stops in Sicily, and close to Milano and Rome, but between Sicily (Villa S. Giovanni is station in main Italy with Ferry to Messina in Sicily) and Rome night trains have not so much stops (train from Sicily to Rome stop in Villa S. Giovanni and next stop is Formia and Latina close to Rome. Another night train from Sicily stops at Villa S. Giovanni and next stop is Salerno and Napoli) PeterOB was dancing in night trains. Night trains have beds only and there is reservation for coupes or beds and some coupes are booked with passengers and some coupes are free. You can go in some free coupe with open door and close the door. Conductor usually do not look inside coupe. But if the passengers in some stop later have reserved this coupe, they will go inside and they can call conductor. And if you will go from some coupe to another coupe, some passengers can give echo to conductor. Conductor has in tablet, which coupe have reservation and which coupe should be free. But some conductors do not check ticket during whole journey, but they often check in regulary, not like few years before, it was free.If all coupes with beds are occupied, you can try to hide in toilet, washing room or just stay in corridor. Conductor goes after big station between stations with long time or after 2-3 stations, which are not so far.PeterOB travelled in night train from Munich to Rome, and all coupes were occupied, so he stay in corridor. And conductor did not check ticket during journey, but in Verona – train split to Milano and Rome and conductor was outside, he found him. Peter OB was travelled in another night train from Sicily and he was hiding in free coupe. But new passengers came and some passengers give echo to conductor. PeterOB was kicked out and conductor gave echo to another night train. Main station Roma Termini has ticket checking before entering on platform (probably not always, during day usually, but who knows). There are fences around and some doors are for exit and some doors are for getting on platform. But conductors sometimes (usually during day) are in every door and they check hardly tickets. PeterOB tried to get to platform and he was always pulled back. PeterOB saw it only in Roma Termini station. In many another stations (include Bolzano, Verona, Napoli, Padova, Venezia) is free access on platform, only in Roma Termini not. If you are in Roma Termini, do not go out or close to exit (be hidden between many people in platform). There is big departure table and you can check departures for trains and their stops and type of train (R, IC, ICN, EC, AV). If you want to get in platform, you can buy cheap ticket for 1-2 stations in Treno Regionale and you go in any train, or you can get by Roma public transport (Tram, Bus) to station Roma Tiburtina with free entry and take some train to Roma Termini (it is one stop and plenty of trains goes there). Generally – black dancing in Italy very easy (more Easy than in maybe all European countries). Classic hitchiking is very difficult in Italy but PeterOB think that Spain is worse. There are no places for stay on the road in North Italy, roads are narrow and cars have not place to stops (narrow road, a lot of cars behind) and you have not place for stay in most of cases. You can hitchike in fuel station, but not so much drivers stops. And it can be not allowed in petrol pump or many places near road, the fine is Eur 21, be careful about coops arriving. North is better because of a lot of German, Austrian cars go by motorway. In Sicily – hitchikng is still not so easy, but better. And some regions are really easy. Police usually just pass around, sometimes, they check ID, because of immigrants and lot of criminality there. Sometimes – police can send you to bus station. One more think. Dumpster diving is sometimes easy in Italy and trashes behind supermarket are usually accessible. Trashes behind hotels, pensions or restaurants are good too. Some food is too in small trashes in street. And in summer are markets in center of town and there are many garbage – fruits and vegetables at the end of market (in afternoon or evening), because some fruit or vegetable can not be sold next day. Distance to supermarket can be sometimes long. There are public transport – buses, trams in Cities and it is easy to take it for free in big city. Fine is not so high and you will never pay. But in smaller cities are entering only by front door (and you have to buy ticket from driver) in buses. If you ask in some shop, they usually give you some leftovers too, but it is not so easy in big supermarket.  There is long journey from North to south, from Bolzano to Palermo (Stops with AV trains - Treno Alta Velocita). You usually change train at Roma or Napoli. There is ferry for trains to Sicily. Let’s explore stops for long journey dance floors (Not Treno Regionalle). Long journey trains (AV, IC, EC) goes usually once a 15 minutes - 4 hours (depends, where you are) and there are some night trains. Stops wth Treno Alta Velocita between Bolzano-Roma(Napoli) are: Bolzano/Bozen, Trento, Rovereto, Verona Porta Nuova, Bologna Centrale, Firenze S,M.N. (sometimes Firenze Campo di Marte), (simetimes Arrezo), Roma Tiburtina, Roma Termini, Napoli Centrale (CLE).Second Variant Bolzano/Bozen, Ora/Auer, Mezzocorona, Trento, Rovereto, Verona Porta Nuova, Orvieto , Roma Tiburtina, Roma Termini. As you can see, AV trains are without stop between Napoli and Roma and the stops are not always the same for all long journey (and quite fast) trains. AV trains goes between Napoli and Roma every 15-60 minutes usually during day.  Stops from Roma-Napoli to Palermo (IC train) are: Roma Termini , Latina , Formia , Aversa, Napoli Centrale , Salerno , Sapri, Paola, Lamezia Terme Centrale , Villa S.Giovanni –----- Crossing Sea –---- branch to west Messina Centrale, Milazzo, Barcellona-Castroreale, Capo d'Orlando-Naso , S.Agata di Militello , Cefalu, Termini Imerese, Palermo Centrale,Branch to South - Messina Centrale, Taormina-Giardini, Giarre-Riposto, Acireale, Catania Centrale, Lentini, Augusta, Siracusa. Some IC or ICN trains have more stops between Salerno and Villa S. Giovanni. And there are AV trains to Villa S. Giovanni too, but with more stops and it runs so often. IC trains goes not so often between Salerno and Villa S. Giovanni. ICN trains are better, some has no stop between Villa S. Giovanni and Salerno or even no stop between Villa S. Giovanni and Formia.Stops in Sicily are always the same, in Messina-Villa S. Giovanni train split to two branches (first to west – Palermo and second to south – Siracusa and Catania (Etna)). Villa S.Giovanni is point, where train goes to Ferry, in is about 3 km by ferry to Messina in Sicily only and it can be not so expensive. There are conductor changes after ferry and trains in Messina split to direction Siracusa (south-east Sicily) and Palermo (west Sicily). If you catch train from-to Sicily, there is no ticket checking during crossing sea, but police often checks ID (migrants, criminality, drugs), and sometimes dogs are searching drugs in train - mostly direction from Sicily.
As we can find EC From Geneve: Geneve, Italy have many types of dance floor.Lausanne, Montreux, Sion, Brig, Domodossola, Gallarate, Milano Centrale, Brescia, Peschiera del Garda, Verona Porta Nuova, Vicenza, Padova, Venezia Mestre, Venezia Santa Lucia
First type is regional dance floor ( FB or AV Treno Regionale). This type of train have distance between stops 5-30 km, usually 10-20 km. Journey of this type of train is about 100-250 km and it takes 2-3 hours with 10-20 stops. Regional trains are quite fast. This type of trains have only one conductor and conductor do not check tickets so often, he go only one-two times during whole journey, usually once 4-8 stops only. You can find conductor in stop quite easy – he wear blue-black suit and white shirt. Number of passengers is quite big, up to few hunderts. Some regional trains are quite crowded near big town. Conductor asks for ticket all passengers during checking, tot From Milano only new passengers (and time to next control is long). You never know: Milano Centrale, when conductor go. You can watch during trip if conductor is coming and walk around conductor during ride without backpack and in the area where ticket were already checked wait until conductor finish your wagon and go back after it but conductor go out of train in stops for give sign to driver – you can in this time go behind conductor in the train easy. You can do sit in WCBrescia , do not lock door and hold toilet paper – play shitting during control, not for whole journeyDesenzano del G. Because of not so often checking ticket and checking all passengers – you can not use Short Distance Ticket Trick or play that you were already checked like in central Europe/S. If you are found that you travel without ticket, conductor will ask you for buy ticketVerona Porta Nuova, but you will say that you have no money. Conductor usually ask youVicenza, where is your final destination and sometimes let you travel or kick you out. SometimesPadova, conductor ask you for passportVenezia Mestre, bat you will say that you do not have. He let you be. There are no coops in regional trains and conductor do not call police. Most of conductors are nice to free riders and speaks English good. Interval between regional trains is usually 1 hour and trains go from early morning to late evening. Some types of regional train have a lot of short wagons (8-12) and it is not visible so far in this train, where conductor is now. But some trains in north, near Bolzano in mountains are better – you can see whole area of train and where is conductor now and this trains are sometimes crowded and have stops and arriving time in monitors.Venezia Santa Lucia
Next type of dance floor is FS FB or AV Treno. This type of train have probably one conductor and about 5-9 long carriagesFrom Torino: Torino Porta Nuova, Torino Porta Susa, you can see all carriage area (no coupes) and but not to other carriages. FS trains usually go for long distanceVercelli, hunderds kilometers and distance between stops is 30-80 km. Speed of this train is quite fastNovara, [[User:PeterOB|PeterOB]] thinks about 100-180 km/h between stopsMilano Centrale, Brescia, Peschiera del Garda, so dance is relative fast. Conductor go usually once 2-4 stops (or more) and probably check all passengersVerona Porta Nuova, not only new passengers. As you can see in information boardVicenza, this type of trains required seat reservation (maybe because of a lot of passengers and maybe for checking tickets) and ticket is more expensive than in regional trainPadova, but you travel compete free. Amount of passengers is quite bigVenezia Mestre, but sometimes not so big. Interval to next train is usually 1 hour and trains go from early morning to late eveningVenezia Santa Lucia.
Favourite dance style walk around conductor EC 59 through Switzerland (and play telephoningBasel – Bern – Milano) and wait until your wagon is complete checked, or stay sit on toilet without locked doors (play shitting). Of coursestops are: Basel SBB, Olten, Bern, Thun, Spiez, Visp , Brig, Domodossola, you can use short distance ticket trick or play that you was already checked. If you are find that you travel without ticketGallarate, conductor ask you for buy ticket first. But you have no money. So conductor probably kick you oft of rain or he might ask you for passport in some occasions or let you travel without ticket. You can tell to him that you have no passport. There is no coops or security in this type of trains and time to next stop is not so long because of high speedMilano Centrale.
Some FS dance floors are Treno Alta velocita. If you want to dance fast and scary, this is good type for it. This type of FS trains have same distance between stops but speed of this type of train can be faster. FS Alta velocita looks like high speed train Trains from Germany (PendolinoMunchen) to Austria and there are information monitors inside and wifi inside too. But the password for wifi is probably on ticket. This type of train have probably one conductor and maybe restaurant wagon, conductor check tickets probably once 2-5 stops. Ticket for FS Treno Alta Velocita can me more expensive and of course, with reservation obligatory. You can use the same tricks like in FS trains or regional trains. If you are find that you travel without ticket, you probably will be kicked out at next stop or conductor might ask you for passport. There are no coops or security on trains (PeterOB hope), Italy and next stops is up 100 km away.:
There are another luxury High Sped trains in ItalyEC 89 DB-ÖBB EuroCityMünchen Hbf 13:37, München Ost 13:44-13:46 GO, Rosenheim 14:14-14:16, Kufstein 14:39-14:41, Wörgl Hbf 14:49-14:51, Jenbach 15:04-15:06, Innsbruck Hbf 15:23-15:27, Brennero/Brenner 16:02-16:14, Fortezza/Franzensfeste 16:44-16:46, Bressanone/Brixen 16:55-16:56, Bolzano/Bozen 17:27-17:31, Trento 18:02-18:04, Rovereto 18:17-18:19, which can belongs to private companyVerona Porta Nuova 18:58. This type of trains (GO Treno Alta Velocita with cangoroo in logo have wifionly exit, restaurantno tickets for entering, streewards BO – only for boarding, but GO and conductors and obligation of seat reservation of course. [[User:PeterOB|PeterOB]] have not use and do BO are not recommended this trains but speed interesting of this trains is big and distance between stops longfree travelling, you can get in or out anywhere).
Next type EC BETWEEN MUNICH AND VERONA IN BOTH DIRECTIONS GOES EVERY 2 HOURS WITH THE SAME STOPS. There is a lot of police checking in direction to Germany. Police goes in train is EC train. EC trains are usually international before Bolzano and go for long distance. Journey length can be more than 1000 km after Bolzano, Brennero too and distance between stops 30-100 km. Interval to next train is few hours they check all places (better use regional train)Toilets, ticket price about Eur 1 per 8-10 kmunder seats, speed in normal, usually 100-150+ kphetc. EC trains have not so much passengers and two conductor (and conductors might be out of Italy). Conductors probably go more fregvently A lot of coops are in Bolzano and probably check only new passengersBrennero station, but remember often who is newon the platform, because of not so much passengers. And there is conductor crew change at border and checking all passengers. Toilets they are probably checked too. There are bigger chance ask you on platform even for passport and conductor write fine for you instead of simply kick you out of regional trainsto Brennero. Because It is because of international type of train, there can be cops or security in trainimmigrants – they check only dark and black persons, but it is not rule. Many many immigrants use EC trains for going still try to France, get in Austria or Germany, Scandinavia from Italy without ticket by train and conductors know itthey are in Brennero or Bolzano station, and this is reason of bigger chance of coops occurrencethey are looking in toilet or under seat too. But police do not check tickets.
Night dance floors are similar to EC CNL 40485 ApusMünchen Hbf 21:08, Rosenheim 21:43-21:45 BO, Kufstein 22:07 BO, Wörgl Hbf 22:15-22:17 BO, Jenbach 22:32-22:33 BO, Innsbruck Hbf 22:58-23:05 BO, Brennero/Brenner 23:42-0:02 GO or FS trainsBO Impossible ???, Bressanone/Brixen 0:38-0:40, Bolzano/Bozen 1:07-1:09, but goers in night. Interval between stops is about 50Trento 1:41-100 (150) km and journey length is quite long1:43, often more than 1000 km. Interval to next train can be Verona Porta Nuova 2:37-7:15 GO, Peschiera del Garda 7:30-4 hours7:32 GO, Desenzano del G./S. Night trains can go from Germany 7:41-7:43 GO, Brescia 8:01-8:03 GO, Rovato 8:17-8:29 GO or France to ItalyBO Impossible ???, Milano Centrale 9:12. Another branch goes from Verona to Rome or some trains . Train goes from Rome München Hbf and train split in Verona to southtwo branches. This trains stops only in big towns. PeterOB did not not try this type of train. Conductor go probably once 2Branch to Rome -CNL 485 Lupus: Verona Porta Nuova, Bologna Centrale 4 stops and check probably all passengers:20-5:08 GO, not only new passengersFirenze S.M. It is easy to play sleep that you are already checked in the darkN. It was very easy few years back because conductors do not check tickets during night trip but now – they check it regular and probably all passengers6:07-6:25 GO, not only new (for example three times checking during long journey from Austria or Bolzano to Rome). Seat reservation obligatory – that is question. If you are found without ticketArezzo 7:03-7:05 GO, that is questionChiusi-Chianciano Terme 7:34-7:36 jGO, if you are only kicked out or conductor ask you for ID (Conductor first ask you for buy ticketOrvieto 8:00-8:02 GO, of courseRoma Termini 9:22). Because of international trains, police or security can be inside train, especially now because a lot of immigrants take train from Italy.
Last type of train is Eurostar train – international high speed train with long distance between stopsCNL 40463 Pictor München Hbf 23:36, München Ost 23:44-23:46 BO, Salzburg Hbf 1:19-1:34 GO or BO Impossible ???, Schwarzach-St. Tickets are expensive with obligation of seat reservation. And there are police in Eurostar train and if you found without ticketVeit 2:23-2:26 GO or BO Impossible ???, Spittal-Millstättersee 3:26-3:27 GO or BO Impossible ???, Villach Hbf 3:51-4:45 GO or BO Impossible ???, conductor probably always ask you for ID Tarvisio Centrale 5:04 GO or passport. So this is not good type of dance floor.BO Impossible ???, Tarvisio Boscoverde 5:08-5:18 GO, Udine 6:23-6:25 GO, Pordenone 6:58-7:00 GO, Conegliano 7:22-7:24 GO, Treviso Centrale 7:46-7:48 GO, Venezia Mestre 8:12-8:14 GO, Venezia Santa Lucia 8:24
Generally – black dancing in Italy very Easy (more Easy than in maybe all European countries). Classic hitchhiking is very difficult in Italy but [[User:PeterOB|PeterOB]] think that Spain is worse. There are no places for stay on the roadAs you can see CNL 40485 Apus and CNL 40463 Pictor, roads there are narrow and cars have not place to some stops (narrow road, a lot of cars behind) and where you have can not place get in or get off. But it is only for stay in most of casesbooking tickets. You can hitchhike in petrol pumpIf you travel for free, but not so much drivers stops. And it you can be not allowed get in petrol pump or many places near road, the fine of anywhere. It is Eur 21quite strange, be careful about coops arriving. North is better but probably because of immigrants and police control. There are probably coops between Italy and Germany in trains and a lot of German, Austrian cars go by motorwaycontrols.
One more think There are long-journey EC trains, belongs to DB-ÖBB dancing company. Dumpster diving is easy These trains starts in Italy and trashes behind supermarket are usually accessibleat Verona, or Bolonga or Venezia. Some food is too in small trashes. And in summer is markets in center of town and there are many garbage – fruits EC train between Munchen hbf and vegetables at Verona goes once a 2 hours with the end of market (in afternoon same stops, some EC trains goes from-to Bolonga or evening). Distance to supermarket can be longVenezia. Stops are:Bologna Centrale, Verona Porta Nuova, Rovereto, Trento, Bolzano/Bozen, Bressanone/Brixen, Fortezza/Franzensfeste, Brennero/Brenner, Innsbruck Hbf, Jenbach, Wörgl Hbf, Kufstein, Rosenheim, München Ost, München Hbf Or from Venezia:Venezia Santa Lucia, Venezia Mestre, Padova, Vicenza, Verona Porta Nuova, Rovereto, Trento, Bolzano/Bozen, Bressanone/Brixen, Fortezza/Franzensfeste, Brennero/Brenner, Innsbruck Hbf, Jenbach, Wörgl Hbf, Kufstein, Rosenheim, München Ost, München Hbf There are public transport – buses, trams a lot of border checking between Italy-Austria-Germany in Cities and it is easy direction to take it for freeGermany, because of Immigrants. Fine is not so high. But And there are entering only by front door (a lot of coops in train and you have to buy ticket from driver) in buses in smaller townson platforms.
== [[Luxembourg]] ==
It is true, that is really easy dancing in some parts of Norway, especially around Oslo. [[User:PeterOB|PeterOB]] was dancing in Norway - in area 20-50 km north from Oslo in March 2016. Generally - there are two most common types of dance floor in Norway. BUT as another user wrote - it is easy to get from Oslo and back by local trains in Norway. Region around Oslo is very easy. Some regions around big town can be easy too. But local trains L do not go everywhere and you have to use regional train R with normal ticket checking. You can use short distant ticket trick (not in local train L) or you can try WC method or something another.
If you will be captured, you can be kicked out of the train or you can get fine NOK 900 (about Eur 80). But it is true, that you do not have to pay if you do not live and work in Noway. But there are not so many people in train and conductor can check whole train in one or two stops. Time between stops is usually 10-30 min and 10-50 km (bigger distance in north). If you are kicked out, then many stations can be without waiting room especially in north or in some small stop, many stops are request only (north from Oslo and Trondheim, around Roros, Tynset). There are 3 trains a day and one night train (with not all stops) between Oslo and Trondheim. But there are more trains with shorter journey and more stops. You can wait 2-6 hours or whole night for next train and some stations are without waiting room. Winter temperature in this region, it is various. Temperature is usually from +5 to -15 with west wind and a lot of rain and snow. Bout some stations are further from sea, even in mountains and temperature can drop to -20 or even to -30. It can cause death during exam in case that you fail and waiting room is not in your station (and waiting rooms can be close during night). Fist type is orange Orange doors - local dance floor L (you can find this type of train by letter L in station departures table and if you look to www.idos.cz, this type of dance floor is market like R, and you can see at www.idos.cz all stops during trip). Local dance floor has in the middle blue part with blue door and is it possible to buy ticket or being checked there(You can buy thicket in train in blue door area, for example if control is coming – it is good idea to sit in orange part, but close to blue part. Or you can sit in first wagon and you will see ticket inspectors in platform, when train is arriving). Conductor is most of time in this blue part. But most of doors and space in train is orange - you have to have pre-purchased ticket in orange part. But usually nobody checks it. Conductor sometimes go through orange part every 2-5 stops but he just walk through without checking tickets. Sometimes, maybe once a 15-30 rides, one or more conductors few ticket inspectors check orange part too. But they don't give penalty probably, they just sell ticket in orange part or some people just tell them that they have already ticket. But you can get penalty from them – they are there for giving fines. Almost nobody have ticket in orange part during suddenly checking. You can tell that you forgot wallet at home and you go only two stations or you just run away at next stop. Penalty is NOK 900 (About Eur 100), but it is pretty rare to get penalty from Ministry of transport(Ministry of Norwegian dancing). The same penalty NOK 900 is in Oslo public transport (Buses, Trams, Underground). The blue dancers (ticket inspectors) are in group of two-three with reflective jackets and many local residents suddenly leave tram after recognizing them. You can use ships from one to another side of fjord, close to Oslo. There are quite a lot of passengers and nobody check tickets during boarding or during ride. Ship go usually once a hour until late night. If the ticket inspection suddenly start on the ship, you can jump into water and swim 2-4 km to side. But water is not warm. There are buses in another side of fjord than Oslo and in Oslo outer zones. In direction from Oslo usually nobody checks tickets but in direction to Oslo from outside – there is no ticket shop and you have to go around driver and show or buy tickets. You can try to tell that you have Euro only or ticket in phone and empty battery.Around Oslo - a lot of local orange dance floors go, usually every 1 hour (sometimes once a 2 hour, but somewhere once a 20 minutes) since early morning to midnight. Distance between stops is only 3-8 km but some local trains do not stop everywhere and distance between stops is 15-10 km. Sped is about 70-110 km/h. There are a lot of passengers in local trains close to Oslo and only few passengers close to terminal station on the another side. Orange dance floors have only one toilet usually. Toilet is not easily visible, it is usually in middle of dance floor.   Next type is R dance floor (Regional ?, R at departure board, REG at www.idos.cz) R dance floors don't have orange or blue door but there is normal ticket inspection like in Sweden. Some R trains are with orange door everywhere, but it does not mean anything. R-trains are quite crowded close to Oslo, between Oslo and Hamar, close to Trondheim. Conductor usually check tickets after big town and not so often during a trip after. Many stops can be request only. But if not so many people come into train, there is long journey without ticket checking. And you can try just sleep, read a book, like you were already checked (it does not work at first checking). Conductor almost don't care who is new. Distance between stops is about 10-20 (50+) km and interval to next train about 2-12 hours in south of Norway. Regional dance floors are marked with R on departures table and at www.idos.cz like REG-trains. You can see at idos.cz all stops. Trains around Oslo are quite crowded, and there is quite lot of people around bigger town. There are small R trains too, with few passengers only and many stops by request. Conductor almost do not check tickets during a trip, only at begin or after bigger town. On the other side, it is easy to find, who is new between few passengers. Conductor just walk through train often and if there is checking of all passengers, they say in Norwegian “Biljet Kontrol” in train speaker, with some talking around. You can try to stay on the WC during checking, conductor usually do not checks toilets (You can leave door unlocked and sit like during shitting). Or you can try to tell that you have ticket in phone and empty battery or your friend is booking your ticket just now - but you risk penalty with this. You can run away in next station in case of troubles. You can use too short distant ticket trick - that you buy ticket only for 1-3 stations and you continue more far after checking. But if you change train, you need new ticket. And tickets in Norway are expensive (about Eur 5-10 per 30 km, if you buy ticket by internet long time before ride, price can be Eur 1 per 5 km). There are no cheaper tickets “Mini Pris” for shorter distances. Mini Pris tickets are for distances like 100+ km at nsb.no and it cost more than 200 NOK always (around Eur 25). But you can find ticket for 300-500 km long journey with MiniPris 250-300 NOK (30-40 Eur). Standard price for 300-500 km can be 600-900 NOK (around 70-100 Eur).  Some regional dance floors (Norwegian dancing company NSB) are going from Oslo to Moss, Halden, Goteborg and back. Moss is the last stop, which is accessed by local trains (L without checking, R at www.idos.cz) with orange door and it is 5 stops by regional train (R at departure table, REG at www.idos.cz) from Moss to Halden (last stop in Norway) and 3 more stops to Goteborg. There are regional 4 trains a day from Oslo to Goteborg wit not so many passengers inside (Ticket inspection can be just after Oslo resp. Goteborg, maybe after Halden and Moss), from Oslo 7:01,13:01,15:28. It is 10 stops, journey from Oslo to Goteborg has duration 3:40 – 4:00 hours. Back from Goteborg to Oslo trains go: 4:35,6:55,13:00,17:55, journey has duration 3:47-3:57 hours. This train is probably mostly for SE-NO or NO-SE ride, because stops in first country are only for boarding and stops in second country are only for getting off. There are another not so common types of dance floors. First F-trains with F letter on departure Table. This trains go from Oslo to Airport and back. Swedish high-speed dance floor (SJ Snabbstaag) between Stockholm and Oslo (Oslo - Kongsvinger (NO) - Arvika (SE) - Karlstad --------- Stockholm). Three high-speed dance floors SJ Snabbstaag from Oslo to Stockholm goes during day (6:02 Oslo - Stockholm 10:46, 8 stops) (Oslo 10:56 - Stockholm 16:01, 9 stops) (Oslo 16:56 - Stockholm 21:50, 6 stops). Three SJ Snabbstaag dance floors come from Stockholm to Oslo (5:55 Stockholm ... Oslo 10:28, 5 stops) (11:06 Stockholm ... 16:09 Oslo, 9 stops) (15:59 Stockholm ... 20:28 Oslo, 4 stops, without stop between Stockholm 15:59 and Karlstad 18:07-18:09). There is sometimes identity checking on platform in Oslo after leaving train from Sweden because of immigrants. Only few passengers go between Arvika and Oslo. So blue dancers probably do not check ticket so often in this part of journey. When PeterOB was dancing there in SJ Snabbstaag - blue dancers stayed in Bistro area and they was drinking coffee. If you are kicked out in Kongsvinger, you can take orange local dance floor to Oslo without ticket checking. Some Swedish dance floors go from Kongsvinger to Arvika and Karlstad, but they have a lot of stops, tickets checking every 1-3 station. And only few trains a day stops in some stops, many local stops are without waiting room and winter temperature can be bellow -20. It can be difficult to get from Arvika, because next SJ Snabbstaag can get echo and local trains have lot of stops. From Konsvinger to Oslo goes local train L and there are more trains (SJ Snabbstaag and regional with more stops) and you can hide between many passengers.  Norway is very long country with very low population density in the north. Distance to next village can be 50-100+ km, and there are not so many people in north villages. Not so many cars go to north and you can wait long time on the road. If you go to North, there are 24 hours light in June and many mosquitoes and rain in Summer, temperature about 5-15degrees. But in winter is more difficult – only pretty short days and various weather. Landscape close to ocean has a lot of wind and snow with not so deep frost, but sometimes, especially in some mountain parts temperature can be bellow -30 (Region Roros – Tynset – Koppang – Rena – Elverum is famous for temperatures bellow -20 or even bellow -30. It is valley, where cold heavy air from Sweden flows). Everyone want to take train instead of standing on the road in strong frost, BUT only around Oslo, Trondheim or another big city, local trains goes often and many trains are without ticket checking. Journey to North is difficult, even through Roros – Tynset -Elverum mountains area (Death during exam is possible in winter time, in case that you fail, of course, seriously).  If you want to go more and more north, it is not easy. Remember that you can check all stops during journey and time-table for all European countries (not in East Europe) at www.idos.cz. Select „Vlaky“ - trains. It help a lot for planing journey. If you select „Pouze přímá spojení“ - it means no train change during journey between two stations. It will choose only direct trains from A to B. Idos.cz works for trains like this in Europe, not for buses (for buses only in Czech Republic and Slovakia and some buses in Europe, usually long journey buses).  You can look on nature and landscape pretty easily now before you will go to train – by cabwiew on youtube. The rail road from Trondheim to Bodoe is here (just put the code into Youtube URL) – Spring ( tnsQ8DjD6YE ), Summer ( TY1sbKvjNcY ), Fall ( 0Tpq2mLtXDc ), Winter ( 9pVWfzsgLoQ ). More CabViews - Nordlandsbahn 1920x1080 h264 ( 831Drz4YQdQ ), BergensBanen ( z7VYVjR_nwE ), from Oslo to AAl ( 7o7ecadHJmU ). From Halden to Oslo, Goteborg-Oslo rail-road (Nu8z33KYPAA), Bergen-Oslo (xisVS_DKpJg), Nordic Dancing from Sweden – between Kiruna and Narwik (r7XJo6qzyCE), in winter in north Sweden (39RB_IGEA2k) and (_QftmL-KDVs) and (dvxe9U8otTo) and (qr4Ghzcs0g8). And more. Whole URL is youtube.com/watch?v= CODE   From Oslo to Trondheim goes R dance floor (REG at idos.cz) with fewest stops (much more R-trains with more stops and a lot of passengers goes between Oslo and Lillehamar). Train from Oslo to Trondheim goes at 8:02,14:02.16:02,22:46. It is 16 stops and duration is 6:29-6:47 hours. But the night train has 18 stops and stops Hunderfossen ,Kongsvoll are only by request at night. Night train wait long time in some stops and journey takes 8:08 (22:46-6:54). There are beds inside night train. You need only for night train seat reservation. For blackriding – day trains are probably more easily, because there are more passengers, no seat reservation and beds (You can try to hide one or two more person together into sleeping bag or under blanket and 2 or 3 persons can go on one-person ticket). You have more possibilities to hide, but night train should be difficult. Back from Trondheim to Oslo trains go 8:23, 13:28, 15:30 and night train 23:30. Day trains have 16 stops and duration is 6:34 to 6:40. Night train has 18 stops, seat reservation obligatory, long standing on some stops. Duration is 7:30 (23:20-6:50).  If you want to go more north, to Bodoe, from Oslo-Trondheim, you always have to change dance floor in Trondheim. Lets search for dance floors from Trondheim to Bodoe. Blue-Black Dancing here can be pretty difficult. You have only one train during day and one train at night. Daily dance floor R (REG 471 at idos.cz) goes from Trondheim S 7:38 and arrives to Bodoe 17:28, so it takes 9:50, almost 10 hours. It is 26 stops and 11 stops are with request only. There are high probability for changing conductors during journey. But conductor all check tickets probably after Trondheim resp. Bodoe and probably not or just few times between, but you can try just pretend sleep, conductor do not remember after long time and he does not care so much, who is new. Stops are: Trondheim S 7:38 ,Vaernes 8:10-8:11 ,Stjoerdal 8:16-8:17 ,Levanger 9:06-9:07 ,Verdal 9:18-9:19 ,Steinkjer 9:44-9:46 ,Joerstad 10:16-10:17 R ,Snaasa 10:23-10:24 ,Grong 10:50-10:53 ,Harran 11:04-11:05 R ,Lassemoen 11:17-11:18 R ,Namsskogan 11:41-11:42 R ,Majvatn 12:03-12:04 R ,Trofors 12:36-12:37 ,Mosjoeen 13:06-13:09 ,Drevvatn 13:34-13:35 R ,Bjerka 13:55-13:56 ,Mo i Rana 14:17-14:20 ,Loensdal 15:39-15:40 R ,Roekland 16:00-16:01 R ,Rognan 16:14-16:15 ,Fauske 16:37-16:46 ,Valnesfjord 16:53-16:54 R ,TVERLANDET 17:10-17:11 R ,Moerkved 17:17-17:18 R ,Bodoe 17:28). R means request stop. Daily train has a lot of stops and regular checking is probably not so often, probably not so many passengers. You can try to hide between passengers or in toilet. You do not need reservation for daily train.  Night train goes 23:40 from Trondheim S to Bodoe 9:15. Type of train is R-Regional (REG 475 at idos.cz). It is 20 stops and 8 stops are request only. Journey takes 9:35. Train stops only for 1-4 minutes at station. There are beds inside and seat reservation obligatory. Stops are: (Trondheim S 23:40 ,Vaernes 0:05-0:06 ,Stjoerdal 0:10-0:11 ,Levanger 0:50-0:51 ,Verdal 1:03-1:04 ,Steinkjer 1:27-1:29 ,Snaasa 2:06-2:07 R ,Grong 2:37-2:40 ,Namsskogan 3:27-3:28 R ,Trofors 4:24-4:25 ,Mosjoeen 4:54-4:58 ,Bjerka 5:42-5:43 R ,Mo i Rana 6:05-6:08 ,Loensdal 7:26-7:27 R ,Roekland 7:47-7:48 R ,Rognan 8:01-8:02 ,Fauske 8:25-8:30 ,Valnesfjord 8:37-8:38 R ,TVERLANDET 8:56-8:57 R ,Moerkved 9:03-9:04 R ,Bodoe 9:15).  Back from Bodoe to Trondheim – situation is the same. One daily train REG 472 and one night train REG 476 only (R at departure board and REG at www.idos.cz). The daily dance floor goes from Bodoe 12:27 to Trondheim S 22:05. Duration is 9:38. It is 26 stops with 11 request stops. There are probably not so many people in train and there is probability of conductor changing during journey. Stops are: (Bodoe 12:27 , Moerkved 12:32-12:33 R, TVERLANDET 12:40-12:41 R, Valnesfjord 12:56-12:57 R, Fauske 13:08-13:11 , Rognan 13:31-13:32 , Roekland 13:39-13:40 R, Loensdal 14:06-14:07 R, Dunderland 14:48-14:56 , Mo i Rana 15:28-15:31 , Bjerka 15:51-15:52 , Drevvatn 16:11-16:12 R, Mosjoeen 16:38-16:41 , Trofors 17:11-17:12 , Majvatn 17:45-17:46 R, Namsskogan 18:07-18:08 R, Lassemoen 18:31-18:32 R, Harran 18:43-18:44 R, Grong 18:58-19:07 , Snaasa 19:33-19:34 , Joerstad 19:37-19:38 R, Steinkjer 20:13-20:16 , Verdal 20:37-20:38 , Levanger 20:53-20:54 , Stjoerdal 21:32-21:33 , Vaernes 21:34-21:35 , Trondheim S 22:05). R means request stop.  Night train from Bodoe to Trondheim – situation is the same. There are beds and seat reservation obligatory, probably not so many passengers. You can try to hide in the dark coupee and pretended sleeping, but chance of success is dubious (or more persons inside one sleeping bag or one blanket can go with one ticket). Night train goes from Bodoe 21:10 to Trondheim S 7:47. It is REG 476 at idos.cz. Duration is 10:30 and it is 20 stops, 8 request stops include. Train wait at stops from 1 to 13 minutes. Stops are: (Bodoe 21:10 , Moerkved 21:15-21:16 R, TVERLANDET 21:23-21:24 R, Valnesfjord 21:40-21:41 R, Fauske 21:54-21:58 , Rognan 22:18-22:19 , Roekland 22:26-22:27 R, Loensdal 22:57-22:58 R, Mo i Rana 0:13-0:20 , Bjerka 0:40-0:41 R, Mosjoeen 1:30-1:40 , Trofors 2:09-2:10 , Namsskogan 3:15-3:28 , Grong 4:23-4:26 , Snaasa 4:53-4:54 R, Steinkjer 5:37-5:40 , Verdal 6:02-6:03 , Levanger 6:14-6:15 , Stjoerdal 7:04-7:05 , Vaernes 7:06-7:07 , Trondheim S 7:47) R is request stop.  Around Roros-Tynset-Koppang. There are just small trains with one conductor and one WC, not so many passengers. One journey is Hamar-Elverum-Rena-Koppeng-Tynset-Tolga-Os-Roros. Highlands starts after Rena and there is tack in valley from Koppang to Roros. Many stops are request only and not so many people in train are between Koppang and Roros. There is a lot of snow during winter (30-100 cm) and the cold heavy Arctic air is flowing from Swedenin this valley . Temperature sometimes drops bellow -20C often, sometimes bellow -30C (In extreme case daily maximum can be bellow -25C and minimum bellow -35C), Tynset is coldest place. There are six trains per day in one direction. Most of stops are with waiting room but waiting rooms are closed at night. Last train from Roros to Hamar goes around 4pm. It is possible to be kicked out there or even next train can get echo and you can be alone in station. Situation on track Roros-Trondheim is worse. Almost all stops are request only and there is a lot of stops. Some stops can be without waiting room too. There are three trains per day in one direction between Trondheim and Roros. Tynset-Roros Area has coldest winter days in Norway and death during exam is possible there in case that you fail.  There is no rail road further north from Bodoe in Norway, Bodoe is the most north town or stop, where you can get by train through Norway by NSB – Norwegian dancing company (and it can be difficult and dangerous in winter). There is one railway from Trondheim to Storlien (Border SE-NO) and Ljusdal (and rail-road continue to Gavle and Stockholm or to Sundsvall). It is pretty long with many stops, not so many passengers and almost no cars between Norway and Sweden there. There is another railway in Sweden from Stockholm to Gavle, Sundsvall, far to north (Umeaa, Boden, Kiruna - SE, Narvik – NO).  Buses and cars continue from Bodoe to Narvik, Tromso, Hammerfest, NordCap. You can try buses – in Sweden is often only possibility pay by card or phone, no by cash, but in Norway is possible to buy ticket by cash. So you can try to say, that you have Euro only. Drivers might let you take bus for free. But it is question, how it works in long distance buses. You can try too quickly show phone, where is something like fake ticket on display (they do not check it so hard) or you can try to snick inside back door. But of course, population density is pretty low and distance between towns can be more than 100 km. There are not so often buses going, and not so many cars for hitchhiking. You can wait many and many hours on the road. Because of ocean, winter temperature is usually between +5 and -20, but with strong wind and rain, snow often. And sometimes, temperature drop bellow -30 during arctic wave. There is pretty short daylight and no Sun during December, and non-stop light in June. Some truck with food goes from south to north of Scandinavia and you can catch some truck too.  There is ship line around fjords (Bodoe – Lofoten – Narvik – Tromso Alta – Hammerfest (close to Nord Cap) – Vardoe – Kirkenes (East Finmark, close to Russian border)). But ship could be quite expensive, especially cabins. Ticket just for walkers can be cheaper, but it cost still quite a lot. Maybe, you can hitchhike a car and hide inside car. And Short Distance Ticket Trick (like in train) should work. You can try to buy ticket only for short distance, and continue further. There are usually restaurants, buffets and bars inside ships. And people leave leftovers on tables or in some special places. You can usually eat quite lot of leftovers – bread, salates, main dishes, starters etc. PeterOB ate lot of leftovers on ferry in Baltic Sea.  Food is quite expensive in Norway and more and more expensive in the North, especially in Svalbard. Some shops have trashes accessible, but many shops lock it. Situation with trashes is bad in south, quite good in north or in cold areas Roros-Tynset (not so many dumpster divers there) or in smaller tovns. And the shops throw away a lot of food. It might be not so easy to find good shop for dumpster diving, if you do not know terrain before. More and more trashes are locked especially in south of Norway or Sweden – shitty supermarkets. Good trashes behind Coop and other supermarkets are in coldest winter area – Roros, Tynset. You can go by train in Sweden, it is log journey Stockholm – Gavle – Ljusdal – Ostresund – Duved – Aare – Storlien(Border SE-NO) ,Storlien is on the border Sweden-Norway, it is relative close to Trondheim. It is pretty easy to get to Gavle by train, but from Gavle to Duved is not so easy – only 4 trains a day in one direction, with a lot of stops (around 15-18). It can be very difficult too. There are not so many passengers and some stops are without waiting room. And winter temperature can drop to -30C. Death during exam is possible here.
The same penalty NOK 900 is in Oslo public transport There are R dance floors from Storlien to Trondheim and Heimdal (BusesREG at ww.idos.cz), Trams, Undergroundbut only two trains a day by NSB dancing company. From Storlien (Border SE-NO). The blue dancers trains go 9:40 – 11:09 (ticket inspectorsREG 382) are in group of twoand 18:40-three with reflective jackets 20:12 (REG 384), it is 8 stops to Trondheim and many local residents suddenly leave tram 3 more stops to Heimdal . Many stops are for request only. But conductor probably does not check tickets so often, maybe just after recognizing thembigger town, if anytime. You can use ships Duration is 1:28-1:31 from one Storlien to another side of fjord, close Trondheim resp. From Storlien to OsloHeimdal 9:40-11:24 resp. There are quite a lot of passengers and nobody check tickets18:40-20:29. Duration is 1:44 rep. 1:49. Ship Heimdal – Trondheim - Storlien(Border SE-NO) trains go usually once a hour until late nightREG 381 Heimdal 7:30 – Trondheim S 7:48-7:50 - Storlien(Gr) 9:25 resp. If the ticket inspection suddenly start on the ship, you can jump into water and swim 2REG 383 - Melhus Skysstasjon 16:17 – Heimdal 16:26-16:29 - Trondheim S 16:46-16:50-4 km to side. But water is not warmStorlien(Gr) 18:25.
Around Oslo Complete station list: (Melhus Skysstasjon 16:17 , Heimdal 16:26-16:29 , Marienborg 16:35-16:36 R , Skansen 16:40-16:41 R , Trondheim S 16:46-16:50 , Vikhammer 17:01- a lot of local orange dance floors go17:02 R , usually every 1 hour (sometimes once a 2 hourHommelvik 17:11-17:12 R , but somewhere once a Hell 17:18-17:20 min) since early morning to midnight. Distance between stops is only 3, Hegra 17:26-17:27 R , Gudaa 17:49-17:50 R , Meraaker 17:58-8 km but some local trains do not stop everywhere and distance between stops is 1517:59 R , Kopperaa 18:06-10 km. Sped is around 7018:07 R , Storlien(Border NO-90 km/hSE) 18:25) R means Request stop. There are a lot of passengers in local Both trains close to Oslo (morning and afternoon) and only few passengers close to terminal station on both directions have the another side. Orange dance floors have only one toilet usuallysame stops.
There are a lot of trains between Heimdal and Trondheim (once a hour during night and once 5-30 min during day) whole day and night. Some trains are local (L at departure table, R (Regional ?at www.idos.cz) dance floors don't have with orange or blue door but there is normal doors area and no ticket inspection like in Swedenchecking. Orange trains (L at departure info and R at www.idos. Distance between cz) goes pretty often here, with a lot of stops is about 10-20 km and interval some stops are request only. Local orange trains go from Steinkjer – 9 stops to next train about 2Aasen(N) -11 stops to Trondheim S, 3 hours in south of Norwaystops to Heimdal and 1 more stop to Melhus Skysstasjon. Or it can be from Heimdal 4 stops to Lundamo. Regional dance floors are marked with But at night local orange trains do not go, only regional trains once a hour (R on departures at departure table and REG at www.idos.cz like REG-). But it is pretty easy to dance during day by local trainsL (R at www.idos. You can see there all stopscz) Steinkjer - Aasen(N) – Trondheim S - Heimdal - Melhus Skysstasjon - Lundamo. There is And conductors probably not so many passengers much checks tickets at night. By NSB dancing company (almost only this company is in Norway) and conductor can easily see, who rail-roads in Norway – Bodoe is northest point with rail-road. BUT there is newlong dancing journey in Sweden: Stockholm – Gavle – Sundswall – Umea – Boden (Luleaa) – Kiruna – Narvik. But you can try There are a lot of trains and 3 or 4 stops from Stockholm to Gavle. It is prety eassy to stay on the WC during checkingget there. Or you can try From Gavle to tell that you have ticket in phone and empty battery Sundsvall is 3 stops by high-sped dance floor SJ Snabbstaag, or your friend long journey dance floor SJ Nattaag. From Sundwall to Umea is booking your ticket just now - but you risk penalty 4 more stops with SJ AB and many stops with thislocal trains. You And many stops can run away in next station in case of troubles. You be without waiting room (stops for local trains, stops with long-journey trains should be with waiting room) and winter temperature can use too short distant ticket trick be - that you buy ticket only for 135. Only few trains a day (2-3 stations ) continues to Boden(Luleaa) and you continue more far after checkingNorth-West to Kiruna. But if you change train, you need new ticket. And tickets in Norway are expensive (about Eur 5Distance between stops can be 20-10 per 30 100 km, if you buy ticket by internet and it takes quite long time before rideto next stop. There are local trains too, price with a lot of stops and not so many passengers. Some stops can be Eur 1 per 10 km). Some regional dance floors (Norwegian dancing company NSB) are going without waiting room and winter temperature is usually from Oslo +5C to -20C but sometimes temperature drop to Moss-40C. And you can wait many hours for train. The area between Kiruna and Narvik is with mountains, Haldenit is very beautiful area, Goteborg but with a lot of snow, grass, wetland and backmosquitoes. Moss Winter temperature here is the last stopfrom +5C to -25C normally, which is accessed by local but sometimes -40C. There are only 2 trains per day in one direction and it is 5 only one train per day in one direction in some stops to Halden (last stop in Norway) . There are not so many passengers and there are small villages only. But conductor probably does not check ticket almost there and 3 more stops to Goteborgyou can pretend sleeping.
There are another not so common types of Two dance floors. First F-trains with F letter on departure Table. This trains go from Oslo to Airport and back. And Swedish high-speed dance floor (SJ Snagstaab) a day in one direction goes in the north between Stockholm Narvik and Oslo (Oslo - Kongsvinger (NO) - Arvika (SE) - Karlstad --------- Stockholm)Kiruna. Three high-speed dance floors SJ Snagstaab from Oslo to Stockholm goes during day (6IC 95 Narvik 10:02 Oslo 38 - Stockholm 10:46, 8 11 stops) (Oslo 10to Kiruna 13:56 36- Stockholm 16:01, 9 stops) (Oslo 1613:56 54 - Stockholm 21:50, 6 stops). Two SJ Snagstaab dance floors come from Stockholm to Oslo (11Luleaa 17:06 Stockholm ... 16:09 Oslo, 9 stops) (41 and R 93 Arctic circle train Narvik 15:59 Stockholm ... 20:28 Oslo, 4 12 - 8 stops, without stop between Stockholm 15:59 and Karlstad to Kiruna 18:0700-18:09). There is identity checking on platform in Oslo after leaving train from Sweden because of refugees. Only few passengers go between Arvika and Oslo. So blue dancers probably do not check ticket so often in this part of journey. When [[User:PeterOB|PeterOB]] was dancing there in SJ Snagstaab 12 - blue dancers stayed in Bistro area and they was drinking coffee. If you are kicked out in Kongsvinger, you can take orange local dance floor 8 stops to Oslo without ticket checking. Some Swedish dance floors go from Kongsvinger to Arvika and Karlstad, but they have a lot of stops, tickets checking every Umeaa Central 1-3 station. And only few trains a day stops in some stops, many local stops are without waiting room and winter temperature can be bellow -20:42.
Two dance floors a day in one direction goes in the north between Narvik and Kiruna. IC 95 Narvik 10 :38 - 11 stops to Kiruna 13:36-13:54 - 6 stops to Luleaa 17:41 and R 93 Arctic circle train Narvik 15:12 - 8 stops to Kiruna 18:00-18:12 - 8 stops to Umeaa Central 1:42. Back from Sweden NZ 94 Arctic Circle Train Stockholm Central 16:28 - 18 stops to Kiruna 9:31-9:49 - 7 stops to Narvik 12:36. IC 96 Luleaa Central 11:07 - 6 stops to Kiruna - 15:09-15:27 - 11 stops to Narvik 18:22. So there is only one train per day in one direction in 3-4 stops (Laaktatjaakka station, Vassijaure station, Rombakk, Bjoernfjell in direction to Narvik). And not so many passengers, many stops without waiting room, wind, snow, frost. Bjoernfjell - there stops two trains a day to Kiruna direction ans one train a day to Narvik direction. You can try to go back to Katterat (Narvik direction) 10:57. Distance between stops is 30-70 km and there are pretty small amount of passengers, and many stops can be without waiting room. And temperature in north of Scandinavia can be -40 degrees Celsius during winter. Death during exam is possible in winter time, in case that you fail and waiting room is not in your stop(and waiting room can be closed during night). Check all stops during journey for all dance floors (you can see it at www.idos.cz - select "Vlaky"). Watch weather forecast and have good sleeping bag. Frost can come pretty fast (from -5 to -40 degrees in 1-2 days). [[User:PeterOB|PeterOB]] do not explore trains in north of Norway. But Norway have only 5 millions inhabitants, most inhabitants close to Oslo. So there can be really empty trains behind arctic Arctic circle and not so many trains a day (and stops can be without waiting room). But there is railway from Oslo to Trondheim and from Trondheim Bodoe (just Bodoe is before arctic Arctic circle, it is quite close to Arctic crcle) and there is NO train to Tromso (behind arctic Arctic circle). Classic hitchhiking is probably easier in north of Norway and Lapland (But it is dangerous area, because of weather, no Sun during Winter and no dark, lot of rain and insect a lot of mosquitoes during summer, but mosquitoes do not bring any diseases). Food is pretty expensive especially in the north but you can dumpster in many places in Norway or Sweden.
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