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You've created a number of rules (i.e. no editing per section, must edit the whole page;
: No, I have not created such a rule, I've asked Drumroots to edit whole pages if he's going to make a lot of changes!
:: And he said he has some trouble using the wiki software. We don't ban people due to lack of technical expertise. And you can't ban everyone who's working style you don't like. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]]<sup>([[User_talk:MrTweek|talk]])</sup> 02:55, 14 June 2016 (CEST)no changing autobahn to motorway or rasthof/raststätte to service station;
: Again, not a rule. '''Every''' hitchhiker knows what an Autobahn is, there is absolutely no need to change that into motorway, and once a hitchhiker has spend just a few hours in Germany, he or she will know what a Raststätte is. The UK has motorway services, Germany Raststättes, Italy Area Servizio's, there is no flipping need to Anglicise everything!
:: I agree with that. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]]<sup>([[User_talk:MrTweek|talk]])</sup> 02:55, 14 June 2016 (CEST)
no writing the name “McD”;
:Why should we provide free advertising for a despicable US corporation that cares about only one thing, its bottom line!
:: I don't like McDonalds either, but I don't think we need to censor their name out. It's often a landmark that's easy to spot from far and thus can be very useful for orientation. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]]<sup>([[User_talk:MrTweek|talk]])</sup> 02:55, 14 June 2016 (CEST)
and no changing a page more than three or four times in a row),
:Again not a rule and if everyone would actually use the preview button, at least half of the edit-after-edit-after-edit cases would disappear.
and I don't see where you get the right to do so. As far as I can tell, you have unilaterally decided these rules, they have no consensus behind them, and they can only be found on the talk pages of users who happen to violate them.
:Again there are no rules, only requests, and if people ignore them, then an admin can take steps. You are also an admin, if you want to unblock Drumroots, feel free to do so.
:: We went pretty well for 9 years with only using our admin rights when absolutely necessary (mainly spam) and I am quite happy about this. You ignored a lot of requests by other admins many times in Hitchwiki's history and nobody banned you. So no, an Admin is not supposed to "take steps" if people don't adhere to their preferred standards. Definitely not! --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]]<sup>([[User_talk:MrTweek|talk]])</sup> 02:55, 14 June 2016 (CEST)
This is not okay. It is authoritarian and lacks any transparency or accountability.
:You prefer anarchy? We had that on FanDeZhi a few years back, and that resulted in the system becoming unusable for genuine users, like the guy who translated PCRE to COBOL, the guy who's trying to update the InfoZIP for z/OS programs.
:: That's a completely useless example. Sad that you had a problem with someone, but we don't right now. Again, our system has worked relatively well for 9 years and I'm not going to give that up because you don't like the way someone edits pages. If you think we need certain rules about this, you are very welcome to start a discussion in the community portal or mailing list. But as long as there is no consensus on this, stop banning people on these grounds! --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]]<sup>([[User_talk:MrTweek|talk]])</sup> 02:55, 14 June 2016 (CEST)
Drumroots asked you a legitimate question about the message you left on his talk page. You waited over a week to respond and did so in a post full of imperative sentences and beginning with “I'm getting pretty fed up with your editing.” This is not friendly; indeed, it is openly hostile.
:I sent him an email, it bounced.
:: That's no excuse for acting like a dick. We have a culture of being friendly and polite here. I'd would prefer if you could take part in this instead of getting super rude if someone doesn't adhere to the rules that you made up on the fly. --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]]<sup>([[User_talk:MrTweek|talk]])</sup> 02:55, 14 June 2016 (CEST)
Regarding RecentChanges, I agree that it's important to keep an eye on them to deal with spam. However, eliminating every red exclamation point is by no means necessary; it merely communicates to other admins that someone has already checked it. This is especially relevant when dealing with users who have a history of productive edits, where spam and vandalism are not a concern. If you feel the need to patrol recent changes for quality control reasons, please accept that that is your decision, and there is no reason why other editors should have to change their behavior to make things easier for you.
And I see welcoming new users as vital to maintaining a cooperative environment here. Without it, the entirety of most users' interactions with other users would consist of being told what to do. I don't like being told what to do, I don't like telling others what to do, and I don't like seeing other people tell other people what to do; I prefer working together, cooperatively, towards a common end (in this case, building a great resource for hitchhikers around the world), and I want to encourage that. -- [[User:Irningston|Irningston]] ([[User talk:Irningston|talk]]) 20:57, 13 June 2016 (CEST)
:Oh yes, cooperatively, like changing the interface into the one we have now, without any support for the normal Mediawiki skin. Was there any discussion about this? The replacement of Google Maps with Open Streetmap? The constant pop-up about Trustroots? Don't we have enough flipping hospitality exchange sites?
:: So what's your point? Are we too cooperative for you or not enough? --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]]<sup>([[User_talk:MrTweek|talk]])</sup> 02:55, 14 June 2016 (CEST)
:Hitchwiki, as noble as its goals are, is pretty much irrelevant today. Whenever I meet other hitchhikers, and ask about it, most seem to know, but far more tell me that they use groups on the site of the Cult of $uckerberg...
:: Not sure what this has to do with the rest of the discussion. It's so unimportant that we don't have to be nice to people any more? --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]]<sup>([[User_talk:MrTweek|talk]])</sup> 02:55, 14 June 2016 (CEST)
:[[User:Prino|Prino]]<small><sup>[http://hitchwiki.org/prino/ blog], [[User talk:Prino|talk]]</sup></small> 21:44, 13 June 2016 (CEST)

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