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Hey Frank, nice to see you here. Thanks for your contributions so far, I'm sure you have much more useful tips to share ;) --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 17:38, 12 April 2007 (CEST)
Hey Frank, nice to see you here. Thanks for your contributions so far, I'm sure you have much more useful tips to share ;) --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 17:38, 12 April 2007 (CEST)
Ugh, that's an aweful lot of statistics! Anyway I hope you're enjoying your day, how's life, are you still hitchhiking? ;-) --[[User:jurgen|jurgen]] 13:03, 18 Februar 2010

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Hi guys! I do not have a log here, but I have a full list of my rides online. I just updated it, so check it here: [1] --Fverhart 21:50, 24 October 2007 (CEST)-- 21:49, 24 October 2007 (CEST)

Hey Frank, nice to see you here. Thanks for your contributions so far, I'm sure you have much more useful tips to share ;) --MrTweek 17:38, 12 April 2007 (CEST)

Ugh, that's an aweful lot of statistics! Anyway I hope you're enjoying your day, how's life, are you still hitchhiking? ;-) --jurgen 13:03, 18 Februar 2010


Hoi Frank! Did you remove text from Arnhem by accident or was there are reason to do so? In the former case, don't worry, I merged both versions. In the latter case: it's good to leave a Summary of the edit in case it might cause confusion among other Hitchwiki folks. Guaka 14:04, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Yes, because the service area at IJsseloordweg has been reopened in october 2006, like I wrote in the replaced text. The rest of Tom's contribution seemed irrelevant and undesirable; relating the impression that Arnhem has a high share of 60+ drivers with WWII, that there are gangs with saloon cars and adding the caption "hh out of arnhem - one hitch too far is really undesirable and certainly not true. It seamed a way to express frustration, but that's not the right place here ~ then use a boxing ball instead ;). Also, the advice to change an itinerary to Nijmegen when stuck in Arnhem and heading for Germany (eg on the spot that does not exist anymore according to Tom) is not that good. Especially now that the service station under reconstruction on IJsseloordweg is back in service. Besides that it would not be easier or less hard over Nijmegen (or I do not know how to claim that ~ I'm interested to hear why it would be easier over Nijmegen, which isn't the case I claim). Because between the now returned service area and the German border there are still 2 service areas, so only a short ride out of Arnhem makes the world go round, if you have a driver going only to Doetinchem or Zevenaar, you already get by service area Oudbroeken (A12 between exits 28 and 29). And if the service area on IJsseloordweg would be taken out of service, it would still be doable to get a ride there from junction Velperbroek, the roundabout which connects A12, A348 and IJsseloordweg, or at the Esso petrol station in the south of Velp, 100 meter before Velperbroek roundabout! :) Well, it would have been better to discuss the matter and not change, or do this prior to changing the page. I'll copy these comments to the Arnhem page as well! Document about the reconstruction of the service area including a photo: http://www.texaco.nl/pdf/Arnhem%20NL.pdf. I've hitchhiked there on 27 december 2006fverhart 23:59, 13 July 2007 (CEST)


We don't really have a policy about this, but MrTweek and I decided to "promote" some more people to sysops on the wiki. Of course we noticed your great contributions and decided to make you into a sysop :) Check project:administrators to read (a little bit) more about this. Guaka 21:08, 7 August 2007 (CEST)


Frank, sorry, I see I made a small mistake. You had deleted the whole page by accident, except for the multiple-location discussion, and I reverted it. Wanted to leave you a note about it on your talk-page but got interrupted by something off-line. I now see as well though that you had left a note as well. I now repost your contribution and would propose to delete our little thread at Talk:789 if you're o.k. with that. I also responded to your contribution b.t.w. --Robino 00:35, 26 August 2008 (CEST)

Good, I see that there was some misunderstanding and some bad clicking. I'm glad to know, and thanks so far. --Fverhart 10:02, 26 August 2008 (CEST)

Waiting time per country distribution

Your method of allocating waiting times to countries as a proportion of the distance covered in each country is not "somewhat discussable", it's utterly ridiculous! If I were a follower of this method, I'd have a waiting time in SK for a ride that started in CZ and ended in H, without even stopping in SK... Prino 00:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Prino. In that chart the distances per country are accurate, where I mean distance of cross border lifts is allocated to the country in which that lift started. Eg, the distance of a ride east from service station Tienbaan neer Heerlen I add to the Netherlands, even though only one kilometer of that ride took place in the Netherlands. Criterium: where did a ride start. Robert, I agree and will early next year re-calculate the waiting times, with allocation to the country in which a lift started, no matter if that ride took place for 1%, 50%, 99%, 100% or whatever% in the country where the lift started. --Fverhart 16:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
You're probably right, but for conviviality it's better to stick to calling each other's ideas "ridiculous" in real life. ;)
With (a lot) more data it'd be interesting to calculate
  1. The waiting time per country
  2. The percentage of number plates from other countries (e.g. in SK: 90% SK, 5% CZ, 4% H)
  3. The average distance per ride.
Anyway, given the recent discussions and activity in this field it's time for an article about statistics. guaka 09:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Guaka. A lot more data is not really needed. Or anyway, those stats can never be used in general. My stats are pretty worthless if you do not know that I usually hitch at once through Germany or for quite a distance. In Czech Republic I did more local, short distance hitching. In my opinion, collecting data of one million rides is not more worth than data of twenty rides. Just it is somehow interesting to keep track, as it can be useful for later analyzation. One another example, recently I less often hitch the really short distances up to 20 km, I used to hitch more even 5 km, which obviously has it's influence on the lift average length; this one got higher in most of the consecutive years but not or not only due to better developed technique or better knowledge of infra and culture aspects. These days I was creating some charts and figures of my statistics, eg accumulated hitched distance for each consecutive month, starting from 2002. --Fverhart 16:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

hi, I'm sorry but I don't have time to add maps now but you can find spots easily: you just have to put coordinates in google map (without any() before and after) To find a spot coordinates with google map, double clip on the point (center of the window) and put this url: javascript:void(prompt(,gApplication.getMap().getCenter())); a window open with coordinates. Thanks for checking my adds, and your comments are welcomes, because I'm new and not too good to edit pages... Julien


Hi! Your user page category has been changed to Category:Hitchhikers in the Netherlands because from now on this (along with the old Category:Hitchhikers) will be a standard categorization for hitchhikers on hitchwiki.org (see this discussion here for the reasons of doing so). If for some reason you don't want to be categorized by country, feel free to delete country category on your page leaving only a standard Category:Hitchhikers. We hope you don't mind.

Happy hitching,

The hitchwiki team

Days with at least 10 vehicles

Don't you just hate these? I very much prefer days with very few very long rides... Prino 22:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I do not only hate them, I also like them. Depending on the time there is mostly. Last October I returned from Klodzko in Poland and decided to take the shorter way over regional roads Klodzko - Nowa Ruda - Walbrzych - Jelenia Gora - Zgorzelec, in stead of Klodzko - E8 - Wroclaw - E40 - Zgorzelec. Klodzko to Jelenia Gora took some six hours (good 150 km), JG to Eindhoven took some 9 hours (900 km). Over Wroclaw to Zgorzelec would have taken two or three lifts, would have been some 50 kilometres more, but would have been lots faster, probably between 3 and 4 hours (2/3 national road, 1/3 motorway). However obviously the rides of 1032 and 85 km that I got yesterday and brought me near to home were very pleasant, and forever the ride that let me cross the first 50 k barrier will be also my first ride of over 1 k! I've thought about celebrating the 50 k mark with VHHC in Wilno (oops, Vilnius), perhaps I'll keep this idea for the 100 k. Thumbs up for 2009. --Fverhart 22:19, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


It seems as you could start your trips on average 15 minutes later and therewith reduce your waiting time significantly... ;) Medians and standard deviations would be cool... --Alex 21:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Frank, i like your statistics. I try to keep a logbook to. I have also the same like your gender studies ;) but only in a excel table on my stand alone pc. maybe we could establish a possibility to join statistics from more hitchhikers, so we get overall statistics. maybe with a web formular or something. does something like this exist? Quarim: 07:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't think there is such a thing. However, maybe we can build one :) I made some graphs some time ago here. The data is collected from the hitchwiki-userpages. Maybe I can enhance that somehow. Any ideas? --MrTweek 08:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


Cool. :) Je weet dat we altijd een Nederlandstalige hitchwiki kunnen beginnen - als er genoeg animo voor is. Trouwens, had je liftenwerkt.nl al gezien? :) guaka 03:44, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Did not see that one yet. Added it to http://lifters.startpagina.nl. It's really a small world, that's what I thought when I realized that this blog is edited by Robin (or Robino, dunno). I'm currently creating a Google Map with all my hitchhiking itinerairies. About Hitchwiki in Dutch - I'm not particularly motivated atm to work on that. --Fverhart 12:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)