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:::Yep, maybe a special page for, for example, the [[E30]], and there you can link to the specific parts of the highways, like on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_route_E30 wikipedia]. Just link on that page to the [[A1 (Netherlands)]], [[A30 (Germany)]] and so one :-) [[User:platschi|platschi]]<small><sup>[http://hoerstel.travelblog.ch site], [[user talk:platschi|wikitalk]]</sup></small> 19:43, 5 December 2007 (CET)
 
:::Yep, maybe a special page for, for example, the [[E30]], and there you can link to the specific parts of the highways, like on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_route_E30 wikipedia]. Just link on that page to the [[A1 (Netherlands)]], [[A30 (Germany)]] and so one :-) [[User:platschi|platschi]]<small><sup>[http://hoerstel.travelblog.ch site], [[user talk:platschi|wikitalk]]</sup></small> 19:43, 5 December 2007 (CET)
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== Hitchhiking (ad-hoc-carpooling) in the Netherlands website ==
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Dear all! For my website Hitchhiking (ad-hoc-carpooling) in the Netherlands I've recently done two things:
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- start of a version in Dutch
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- registered the URL www.liftennederland.tk to replace the current URL www.franknature.nl/hitchhike/hitchhike.htm
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Now I throw up a few points for your welcome feedback.
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1. Which should be the initial language on the site?
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I've set it for now to Dutch. Site statistics show that about 65% of visitors use a provider in the Netherlands (62%) or Belgium (4%). Then USA providers have a share of about 10%, and we all know that these might be for a bigger part also Dutchies, at least partially. However, Dutch provider obviously does not mean that this user knows the Dutch language. And users in other countries might just as well be able to read Dutch... at least some!
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Besides this, I think Dutch as first language is good to popularize hitchhiking in the Netherlands among the natives. Dutch (mobility) orginizations might be easier inclined to establish links to the site in Dutch.
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How do you look upon it?
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2. What is a good shorter URL for the site? The .TK domain is registered in Tokelau Islands and is given at no cost, which is its main advantage. All the .TK domain does is forward every visitor to the site at its current URL. I've found www.liftennederland.tk (Dutch for www.hitchhikingnetherlands.tk). This latter one was not available. What kind of .TK URL would be better? Note that many may not be available. And how much negatively affects the current "long and bad" URL...
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3. Does it make any sense anyway? (This is supposed to be a very general and slightly ironic, perhaps metaphoric, question...).
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4. Do you think hitchhiking will get more common again within the society as a way of travelling?
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Finally, my site has shown an incredible increase by number of visitor for november: plus 60% compared to Nov '07, while the other months were in a range between +10% and -10% per month compared to the same month last year. Also December is making a kick start. Site has some 5.750 hits per year, as an average for 2006-2008.
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Thanks for any feedback.
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--[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] 09:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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What is the sense of "a typical lift in the Netherlands is only 25-50 km". Besides the fact that you mention it as "only". Typcial lifts do not exist. To explain it I should study the meaning of the word typical, but the discussion already ends there. If you hitchhike every day to school, and the school is 5437 meters away your typical lift might be 5437 meters minus the meters that you walk. If you like to go from Utrecht to Leeuwarden every weekend, and once in a while, your typical lift will have a different distance. Asking for rides gives a different average, as does hh at night or only on Mondays, or only with your grandmother, alone, a pet or a fridge. It's too rough for me to say "typical 25-50 km" since it depends on what you want to transport, of experience and technique and of your desired mobility pattern. Expected avg is much longer on a return trip Maastricht-Amsterdam than De Cocksdorp-Cadzand.

How do you define a typical lift?

Regards Frank Verhart


Hi Frank! Welcome!
Well, fortunately this is not an encyclopedia, so we don't have to be super exact :) Also, it is a wiki, and everyone is welcome to make all pages more useful to hitchhikers! :) Guaka 19:58, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Information on NL article

I just hided this information:

  • hitching towards Germany is difficult

Well, hitching towards Germany is quite easy as I think, I hitch over there from Enschede quite often, and never had a driver who thought I might have drugs with me. Also duane police never stopped while standing there.

  • description of three signs

While reading the text its quite difficult to imagine how they look. Maybe adding a picture? Or isn't this information quite useless? Well, whatever. Hope you like the templates. platschisite, wikitalk 12:37, 9 November 2007 (CET)

Highways

It would be great and useful if the 'E' number of the highway was also twinned with the A number (as on every country), on many maps it is the most easyiest information to get... and for us -non-europeans- we only look at those on maps (and on the european road map given for free in Canada, this is the info that appears.) Maplefanta 01:45, 5 December 2007 (CET)

Hey Maplefanta. Might be an idea to add/link them, but I guess as, for example, if you hitchhike in Germany, nearly nobody knows the E-road numbers, because everyone uses the A-1,2,3 numbers. Think in the NL it's the same. Totally different it is in Denmark, where all roads have E numbers. Think we have to find a solution for that :-) platschisite, wikitalk 13:11, 5 December 2007 (CET)

E-numbers are hardly used in the Netherlands. Commonly used online maps primarily show the A-numbers. We, the Dutch and Europeans know that Canadian maps of European motorways are rarely used compared to our own maps, which always show the A-numbers and map dependent E-numbers. Adding E-numbers for the Netherlands seems irrelevant for me. For Belgium that may be differenct, since there the E-numbers are commonly used, as these are shown on Belgian maps and on the road themselves. --Fverhart 15:40, 5 December 2007 (CET)
I know that it is hardly used in some countries, I am more specifically just asking for those who knows those E-numbers, they could simply be add to bonify the information, not put as a priority. It also allows to have a more global european connection view on the highway... since they keep the same number whatever country they cross... like if I am am on the E40 in Belgium, then I am lost to find it when I go to a german page Maplefanta 19:09, 5 December 2007 (CET)
Yep, maybe a special page for, for example, the E30, and there you can link to the specific parts of the highways, like on wikipedia. Just link on that page to the A1 (Netherlands), A30 (Germany) and so one :-) platschisite, wikitalk 19:43, 5 December 2007 (CET)

Hitchhiking (ad-hoc-carpooling) in the Netherlands website

Dear all! For my website Hitchhiking (ad-hoc-carpooling) in the Netherlands I've recently done two things: - start of a version in Dutch - registered the URL www.liftennederland.tk to replace the current URL www.franknature.nl/hitchhike/hitchhike.htm

Now I throw up a few points for your welcome feedback. 1. Which should be the initial language on the site? I've set it for now to Dutch. Site statistics show that about 65% of visitors use a provider in the Netherlands (62%) or Belgium (4%). Then USA providers have a share of about 10%, and we all know that these might be for a bigger part also Dutchies, at least partially. However, Dutch provider obviously does not mean that this user knows the Dutch language. And users in other countries might just as well be able to read Dutch... at least some! Besides this, I think Dutch as first language is good to popularize hitchhiking in the Netherlands among the natives. Dutch (mobility) orginizations might be easier inclined to establish links to the site in Dutch. How do you look upon it? 2. What is a good shorter URL for the site? The .TK domain is registered in Tokelau Islands and is given at no cost, which is its main advantage. All the .TK domain does is forward every visitor to the site at its current URL. I've found www.liftennederland.tk (Dutch for www.hitchhikingnetherlands.tk). This latter one was not available. What kind of .TK URL would be better? Note that many may not be available. And how much negatively affects the current "long and bad" URL... 3. Does it make any sense anyway? (This is supposed to be a very general and slightly ironic, perhaps metaphoric, question...). 4. Do you think hitchhiking will get more common again within the society as a way of travelling?

Finally, my site has shown an incredible increase by number of visitor for november: plus 60% compared to Nov '07, while the other months were in a range between +10% and -10% per month compared to the same month last year. Also December is making a kick start. Site has some 5.750 hits per year, as an average for 2006-2008.

Thanks for any feedback.

--Fverhart 09:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)