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Hi Treefrog, you're right I'm new here so not sure if this is the talk page I'm meant to use. I strongly disagree with you! There is a difference between promotion and being factual. What was written about Find a Crew was in some instances entirely wrong and rather aimed at misleading readers. If you don't see it like this then can I ask if there is a moderator who can compare what has written before and if they would agree with your entire dismissal of the edit. I find it rather unethical that you are suggesting to readers that they can or should use Crewbay for free because that would certainly be the end of such a website. Isn't Hitchwiki to be informative rather then manipulative? Also floatplan and 7knots are no longer hosting, so why would you delete all of that? Who's interest are you protecting or promoting here?
 
Hi Treefrog, you're right I'm new here so not sure if this is the talk page I'm meant to use. I strongly disagree with you! There is a difference between promotion and being factual. What was written about Find a Crew was in some instances entirely wrong and rather aimed at misleading readers. If you don't see it like this then can I ask if there is a moderator who can compare what has written before and if they would agree with your entire dismissal of the edit. I find it rather unethical that you are suggesting to readers that they can or should use Crewbay for free because that would certainly be the end of such a website. Isn't Hitchwiki to be informative rather then manipulative? Also floatplan and 7knots are no longer hosting, so why would you delete all of that? Who's interest are you protecting or promoting here?
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:Hi Oceandomain! Welcome! The idea around here is to work out disagreements ourselves, so let's see if we can find some common ground. Note that you can sign your comments by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end, and if you want to indent, you can start the line with a colon.
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:First, your Floatplan and 7knots edits were fine, but just got reverted because they were part of a long list of edits that I was trying to revert the rest of. I can take a look tomorrow and reinstate those changes.
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:Second, you should understand that Hitchwiki is a website for people who hitchhike and travel for free or very cheaply. If you're against sharing information on how to legally do things for free, you may be on the wrong site. I'm not associated with any of the companies listed on this page, and my only agenda is to help other hitchhikers. As for Crewbay specifically, they [https://www.crewbay.com/for-crew specifically promote their site] as offering a useful free membership, so it really seems like a stretch to claim that it's unethical for me to point that out:
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:''We aim to save you time and money. For starters we’re free to post and communicate. It’s what makes us great! Our free membership has everything you need to find a boat. You'll get an advert, profile, and the ability to send messages to other members.''
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:I'm not sure what you thought was misleading or wrong about the text of the article. Maybe you can tell me specifically what you were referring to. What I saw was that you bulked up the FindACrew section with a lot of extra details that made it much longer than the other listings, and the opinions you insterted about the pricing seemed out of touch with the rest of the content on Hitchwiki (i.e. not many users here will feel like AUD$75/month is a good deal just because it doesn't auto-renew). FindACrew is already placed at the top of the list and clearly stated to have by far the largest number of opportunities, so your efforts to further emphasize it made me suspect that you have some interest in promoting them over their competitors. You even added a company slogan, which is totally out of place here.
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:Maybe you could tell me a bit about yourself, to help build trust. Are you working for FindACrew? Are you a hitchhiker? Do you have personal experiences trying to find boats as a traveler?
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:[[User:Treefrog|Treefrog]] ([[User talk:Treefrog|talk]]) 08:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

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Crew-finding websites

Comment from User:Oceandomain about recent revert, copied from User talk:Treefrog:

Hi Treefrog, you're right I'm new here so not sure if this is the talk page I'm meant to use. I strongly disagree with you! There is a difference between promotion and being factual. What was written about Find a Crew was in some instances entirely wrong and rather aimed at misleading readers. If you don't see it like this then can I ask if there is a moderator who can compare what has written before and if they would agree with your entire dismissal of the edit. I find it rather unethical that you are suggesting to readers that they can or should use Crewbay for free because that would certainly be the end of such a website. Isn't Hitchwiki to be informative rather then manipulative? Also floatplan and 7knots are no longer hosting, so why would you delete all of that? Who's interest are you protecting or promoting here?

Hi Oceandomain! Welcome! The idea around here is to work out disagreements ourselves, so let's see if we can find some common ground. Note that you can sign your comments by typing ~~~~ at the end, and if you want to indent, you can start the line with a colon.
First, your Floatplan and 7knots edits were fine, but just got reverted because they were part of a long list of edits that I was trying to revert the rest of. I can take a look tomorrow and reinstate those changes.
Second, you should understand that Hitchwiki is a website for people who hitchhike and travel for free or very cheaply. If you're against sharing information on how to legally do things for free, you may be on the wrong site. I'm not associated with any of the companies listed on this page, and my only agenda is to help other hitchhikers. As for Crewbay specifically, they specifically promote their site as offering a useful free membership, so it really seems like a stretch to claim that it's unethical for me to point that out:
We aim to save you time and money. For starters we’re free to post and communicate. It’s what makes us great! Our free membership has everything you need to find a boat. You'll get an advert, profile, and the ability to send messages to other members.
I'm not sure what you thought was misleading or wrong about the text of the article. Maybe you can tell me specifically what you were referring to. What I saw was that you bulked up the FindACrew section with a lot of extra details that made it much longer than the other listings, and the opinions you insterted about the pricing seemed out of touch with the rest of the content on Hitchwiki (i.e. not many users here will feel like AUD$75/month is a good deal just because it doesn't auto-renew). FindACrew is already placed at the top of the list and clearly stated to have by far the largest number of opportunities, so your efforts to further emphasize it made me suspect that you have some interest in promoting them over their competitors. You even added a company slogan, which is totally out of place here.
Maybe you could tell me a bit about yourself, to help build trust. Are you working for FindACrew? Are you a hitchhiker? Do you have personal experiences trying to find boats as a traveler?
Treefrog (talk) 08:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)