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Irrelevant part of World Record

The last three rides they caught with another competitor that they met along the way. does is not relevant for the biggest number of rides in 24h record. --Fverhart (talk) 10:07, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

Adding records discussion on Hitchwiki' FB page

Hitchwiki (Mikael Korpela) posted the link to this record page in the Facebook Hitchwiki page and added the question: any records to add?

This post yielded the following answers, of which we (or actually, who should?) evaluate whether they are worth to be included and of a reliable source.

First, matters that may be relevant.

- Miran Ipavec, for crossing the biggest number of European countries in Europe, 30 (+ Kosovo) within 10 days. Submitted by Frank Verhart and Prino, see below

--> Frank's opinion: include in the record list

--> Prino's opinion: This is very worthy of inclusion!

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- Alexey Vorov, for fastest around the world hitch, 20 days. Submitted by Frank Verhart

--> Frank's opinion: include in the record list

--> Prino's opinion: Abso-flucking-lutely!

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- biggest number of rides in 24hrs, Jake de Vries claimed 11 rides, which was answered by Koen and Stefan 32 rides

--> Frank's opinion: include in the record list, at the same time this record is very, very easy to break.

--> Prino's opinion: Utter bollocks. My lifetime average stands at 5.4 rides per day, and I absolutely hate days with 7,8, 9 or more rides! What's the flipping use of having to wait 31 times between rides?

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- biggest number of grouped up hitch-hikers that got a ride. Guillaume claimed 6, Tom Moon claimed 7, but then Jimmy Comamala mentioned that they got a ride from an empty coach when their coach broke down, 52 people.

--> Frank's opinion: we cannot include the 52 people claim before we have a discussing weather a train full of refugees, who do not have to pay for their transportation - humanitarian help - may be considered hitch-hiking. The harsh it is for these people, such transportation meets some of the key hitch-hiking criteria: getting a ride without paying for it and by asking for it from otherwise strangers.

--> Prino's opinion: Once was part of a group of 12 people that got a ride in an empty bus. The 52 people claim is iffy, and as for refugees juming on trains? Please pass me a bucket, that has nothing to do with hitchhiking, even though it might share some of the characteristics!

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- biggest distance "driving your driver" by Frank Verhart. The longest distance I drove in the car of a driver was 781 km, from service station Gralla on the A9 near Graz to service station Medenbach Ost on the A3 near Frankfurt/M. Total distance that I've driven drivers is 1382 kms during four rides.

--> Frank's opinion: sure it ain't a world record c'mon - at the same time if nobody claims more - then why not. I think that driving the driver is some kind of achievement ;).

--> Prino's opinion: I think it might warrant inclusion as it's relatively rare.

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- Hitchwiki, for being the biggest hitchhiking website

Submitted by Kasper Souren

--> Frank's opinion: funny but irrelevant "record"

--> Prino's opinion: Sigh...

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- Tom Moon for hitchhiking lap record for the Circuit de Monaco,

--> Frank's opinion: funny, but relevance is sufficient?

--> Prino's opinion: Definitely, and although Singapore springs to mind, I'm not sure how many others could be included.

--> Frank's opinion: Spa-Francorchamps - and many others?

--> Prino's opinion: Spa is no longer a public road!

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Finally, some claims that are clearly not relevant (not all included here)

- Jan Geleijns for biggest hitch-hiking distance within the Netherlands: 175.000 km (very, very rough estimation) in 25 years time, submitted by Frank Verhart...

--> Frank's opinion: irrelevant for the list

--> Prino's opinion: I think having records per country could be quite interesting.

- Highest average ride speed in Poland: 177.8 kmh. By Frank Verhart

--> Frank's opinion: irrelevant for the list. However, I've posted this fact in a Polish hitch-hikers FB Group "Autostopowicze czyli MY" which had about 15-20 answers from others who had fast rides in PL. The topic has been removed by the admins though. Many hitchers have had fast rides, but very few accurately register their rides, judging from the answers, so that very few reliable claims for average speed are made. Most of the hitch-hikers probably estimated the average by the occasional look at the average speed. Some mentioned highest driving speeds of up to 270-280 kmh, which nobody surpassed, so that highest speeds listed on our World Record page stand out compared to these experiences in Poland. As for the claimed averages, they went up to 200-220 kmh, often from or to the borders. It's unclear if these were full rides or high speed sections of rides (which means, that the ride average is (a lot?) lower --Fverhart (talk) 10:07, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

--> Prino's opinion: Again, the inclusion of tabulated country-specific records would be very interesting.

- Anja Velika: I know a girl who hitched a ride with another friend, two bikes, two bike trailers and two dogs

--> Frank's opinion: randomness, not a record

--> Prino's opinion: Tony Hawks hitched with a fridge... A Dutch guy with a caravan. Ken Welsh had an entry in "Hitchhikers Guide to Europe" for "Weirdest ride"...

--Fverhart (talk) 10:07, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

What to put into the article and what not

Hi Robert, before i answer i would ask you to participate in a constructive discussion here. Insultings and overreaction will lead nowhere. I try to react on your posting in a respectable way and i also ask you to show a bit more respect in this further discussion. Thanks.--Korn (talk) 05:30, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

If you can use proper English, every browser has a spelling checker nowadays, I might. Prinoblog, talk 19:46, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

Hey,

I put the Guiness Book Part out, because compared to the amount of information in the other headlines, this seems to be a bit too much and too boring (to be honest).

It is also the source of the only authenticated records!

Also the "Suggestions" are a bit useless. I vote to exclude this.

You can vote what you want, getting 32 rides on a day is something only an (censored) would consider an achievement...

The "Most rides in one day" came up in a Facebook discussion. Not by me. Is there anything you have to say to my vote, except "You can vote what you want"? I will be glad to hear your opinion.

32 rides in one day are actually quite much and an reasonable achievement.--Korn (talk) 05:29, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

The record 32 is very easy to break, you only have to hit the road for 24hrs with the purpose of doing it, and I expect that it can be done in just a few hours if you just pick the right spot and hitch back and forth every time 1 km (e.g. between traffic lights or busstops). I don't mind it's inclusion that much. --Fverhart (talk) 10:23, 21 September 2015 (CEST)
I am not a member of $uckerberg's Cesspit/Faecesbucket, and such idiot discussions show that I'm right. Prinoblog, talk 19:46, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

"Further reference" makes sense to me in this article and can stay.

Maybe the "Guiness Book of Records Hitchhiking" fit more into another article about the History of Hitchhiking within the Guiness Book.

No, they are records, no need to create more pages.

Actually listing all the times from each year is not a record at all. Furthermore i still dont think anyone is interested in it. If you want to keep it, then keep the actual record time. But for a general overview in this article, i would exclude all records that are regarding to a specific route, just because it is getting too much and you can theoretically put and route in it, you want.--Korn (talk) 05:29, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

The GBOR hitchhiking records were top of the pops in the pre-internet times, times when hitch-hiking was a tad less of a society-marginal activity and hence these records deserve a lot of respect. Land's End to John O Goats was then true such thing that hitch-hikers would like to beat in order to be recorded in the new edition of the GBOR. If we every would like to see hitch-hiking records come back to the GBOR, I think we should at least keep them in here! --Fverhart (talk) 10:23, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

The 24 hour entry of you Robert is included in the new list. No need to have it twice in the article. I furthermore don´t see a point to just copy paste the old article under the new one. Maybe you want to explain your intention with this edit. :)

It was a nice article about records, until someone decided to act first and talk later - FWIW, there is a "Preview" button, no need to make umpteen changes of a single line!

The article was unfinished, as the introduction stated it. I added all record from the VHHC Club. Beside bitching around without giving any argument it would be nice if you could explain yourself without being so rude. Thanks. I gave your the opportunity for it and i just wanted to understand your behaviour. And again i ask you, why there is a need to put your record under the list, if it is already included? --Korn (talk) 05:29, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

I will stop editing, before we worked something out here.

Very good, then I can also try to put Miran Ipavec's records back, which you also carelessly wiped off the page!

Mirans record was not on the page, Before you put those lies in the world, please have a look at the changes. Thanks.--Korn (talk) 05:29, 21 September 2015 (CEST)

You are right about that, I only put it in the news section, and forgot to later add it to the records page. Prinoblog, talk 19:46, 21 September 2015 (CEST)
And finally, only ass-backward Britsh and Americans use am and pm times, the rest of the world is quite happy with 24 hour times!
Prino, we're all volunteering here and putting our spare time in here. Please be polite, no-one wants to see behaviour like this publicly at a volunteering project. It just puts people off from editing content. -Mikael (talk) 09:33, 21 September 2015 (CEST)
I know, but that's not a reason to not use internationally accepted date and time formats, or proper English! Every flipping browser has spell-check dictionaries in every language (except of course stuff from Redmond), so it's very easy to use them. Dittor with another of my pet peeves, gas versus petrol: in Europe we use petrol and get it in petrol stations, in the US they use gas and get it in gas stations! Prinoblog, talk 19:46, 21 September 2015 (CEST)
He didn't say you are not right. He asked you to stop being rude and offensive as soon as you disagree with anything. --MrTweek(talk) 04:47, 22 September 2015 (CEST)

No Headline

World Records related to hitchhiking has been removed from Guinness book years ago. Why shouldn't we start a new list? What do you think? How can somebody prove a world record? Any ideas? --Quarim 07:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

We could allow people to claim a record, until someone else overrides it? Persons should be in our trust-networks for matter of knowing it is true or not. --Robino 14:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Proving records...

... is virtually impossible and that's why (or so I guess) the Guinness Book of Records has stopped accepting them. I asked the four drivers who helped me cover the 2,318.4 km for their names and addresses, but Guinness initially wasn't interested. It was only because I'd been in touch with Ken Welsh a couple of years earlier, to point out that someone had plagiarized his "Hitch-Hikers Guide to Europe" that they relented.

If we're going to set up a records page, it will depend on honesty and we should only accept claims from people who actually keep some kind of logs. My € 0.02... --Prino 18:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

North Cape to Gibraltar

That one seems a little odd - is it in hitchhiker's popular culture, or why is it there instead of maybe North Cape to the Algarve or to Sicily or to the Bosporus?--Zenit 18:50, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

It is very odd indeed, Faro to Riga had a race, so that would be a more worthy inclusion... Prino 22:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)