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== Hitchhiking out ==
 
== Hitchhiking out ==
Getting out of Lille is quite difficult, but not impossible.
 
  
=== A22/E17 North towards [[Antwerpen|Antwerp]], [[Brussels]], [[Gent]], [[Netherlands]] ===
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=== Going south? Take the A1 towards [[Paris]], or directly to south of France join the A26 towards [[Reims]], [[Dijon]], [[Lyon]] (so also direction Spain & Italy) ===
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Going to Paris?
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Have a '''"PARIS"-sign'''.
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The "autoroute" A1 leads to Paris.
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Heading further than Paris? To the south of France (and Italy, Spain)?
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Have a '''"LYON"-sign'''. Why? To avoid Paris.
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It is difficult to cross Paris.
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Especially to leave Paris.
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So therefore consider a '''"LYON"-sign''' when you are still north of Paris.
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Try to get on the "autoroute" A26.
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Like try to someone take you to the "Peage" (= toll) right before the junction between A1/A26: stand at this "Peage"-square with a "A26/LYON"-sign).
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From Lille you can choose to go the first petrol station on the A1, direction Paris.
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Leaving Lille with a '''"AIRE PHALEMPIN"-sign'''.
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If you can reach this petrol station "Aire de Phalempin" it is a good way to go south. (On Google Maps it seems you could walk to this petrol station, from the village of Seclin, south of Lille. Seclin has a train station. In french is described how you can get their by feet on: [http://hitchwiki.org/fr/index.php?title=Lille&action=edit&section=3]))
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From Lille there are several options to hitch hike direction A1.
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;Option 1
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Go to ''metrostation « Porte d'Arras »''. From there walk in the direction of the motorway, cross the bridge. On the left you will see an accelerating lane going onto the ring (it is the A25, which joins the A1 to Paris after about 1 km). You can stand next to the traffic lights just before the ramp with a sign. Or stand on the ramp itself, people have time to stop on the ramp.
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[[User:Garthelgard|Garthelgard]] has hitchhiked from this spot more than twenty times and has never waited more than 30 minutes.
  
You can avoid getting stuck in Lille by getting out at the last petrol station on the A1. "Aire de repos de Carvin" (the name might also "Aire de Phalempin")  is quite a big station, good for hitching, and it's 15 km due south from the centre. However, in direction of Brussels it might be a bit difficult there. Most people go towards Ghent and Antwerp there.
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* In August 2012 to this wiki somebody added : "The best place to go anywhere is the hard shoulder near ''metrostation « Porte d'Arras »'' - just follow the signs to Highway. Within 20 minutes many cars heading towards every directions stopped. To Brussels use sign B and you get there very easy."
  
Otherwise, take the tram-line T to Chateau Rouge. As you get out, you can see the motorway. The spot is the motorway slip road. There's not a lot of traffic, but there is space for drivers to safely pull over and pick you up.
 
  
Or else, get to the gas staion on the N356 about 800m north of metro station Mons Sarts. (Need to jump a small fence and get through some bushes to get into here). From here you can find lifts going into Belgium and have the chance to talk to drivers.  
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;Option 2
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Go to ''metro station « Valenciennes »''. Walking to the north, after about 100 meters you can go eastwards  and follow the "''Avenue Denis Cordonnier''". The A1 crosses this "''Avenue Denis Cordonnier''". And there is an entrance to the A1.
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(The Hostel/Auberge de jeunesse "Stephane Hessel" is on crossing of "''Avenue Denis Cordonnier''" and "''Boulevard Paul Painlevé''". Address: ''235, Boulevard Paul Painlevé'')
  
The '''border''' is also quite a good spot. To get there you'll have to take the Line 2 of the metro until "C. H. Dron" (last stop, and actually already in Turcoing, not in Lille). It takes more than 30 minutes from the center of Lille though. From there to the A1 is about 25-30 minute walk (just follow the signs indicating the motorway from the roundabout next to the exit of the station).
 
The A1 on ramp there is not a very good place to be, you can try for a few minutes though if you're already tired walking. Otherwise the border is some 1 kilometer down the highway. There is space to walk behind the safety barrier. Once there, you'll see the abandoned border terminal. Get past it, and there will be plenty of room to hitch. Speed is limited to 70 km/h there. You can try to catch a ride into the Netherlands or just get a ride to the gas station 5 km into Belgium at Kortrijk where loads of Netherlands folk stop for a refill.
 
  
* '''Last verified''': August 2012. The best place to go anywhere is the hard shoulder near Porte d'Arras Metro station - just follow the signs to Highway. Within 20 minutes many cars heading towards every directions stopped. To Brussels use sign B and you get there very easy. (this spot is also indicated in the section describing direction south (A1/A26).
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;Option 3
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At the end of ''Boulevard des Cités Unies'' (at the side of the railways). 300 meters eastwards from "metro station « Lille Grand Palais »", you find an entrance to the A1 direction Paris.
  
=== A1 South towards [[Paris]], [[A26 (France)|A26]] [[Reims]], [[Dijon]], [[Lyon]] ===
 
  
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Go to ''metro station « Porte de Postes »''. Here is a big roundabout. It's possible to get a ride in several directions. Westwards : direction Calais/Dunkerque (via A25). Eastwards : directions like Paris/Gand/Anvers/Amsterdam/Brussels. It's safe for cars to pull over and one can ask also at the traffic lights.
  
Going south ? Have a "Paris" sign.
 
In case you want to go to the south of France, Italy or Spain, have a sign like "Reims / Lyon". Going into Paris takes a lot of time.
 
You can play it safe and have an "Aire de Phalempin" sign which is the first petrol station on the A1 going to Paris.
 
If you can reach this petrol station "Aire de Phalempin" it seems a good way to going south.
 
(On Google Maps it seems you could walk to this petrol station, from the village of Seclin, south of Lille. Seclin has a train station.)
 
There are several options to hitch hike direction A1/A26.
 
Following the A26 is a better option if you want to go rather quickly to south of France. Hitchhiking through the metropole of Paris is time consuming.
 
To go via the A26 southwards direction Reims its quite senseless to ask people at the "Aire de Phalempin". Rather let someone take you to the Peage right before the junction between A1/A26. Stand at the Peage with a Sign "A26/Reims" makes more sense.
 
  
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At the end of ''Boulevard des Cités Unies'' (at the side of the railways). 300 meters eastwards from metro « Lille Grand Palais », you find an entrance to the A1 direction Paris.
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Go to ''metro station « Porte de Douai »''. Walk or hitch 4 km south (direction Ronchin). Or take the bus "Liane 1". After 4 km you will see a Novotel on your lefthand. There is a roundabout where there is a sign direction A1 Paris. However there is no direct access to the A1, the traffic direction Paris soon joins the A1 (After several hundreds meter, so if you walk to the south, you will come to the next roundabout, here there is a direct access to A1. And cars can stop for you.)
  
;Second option
 
Go to metrostation « Valenciennes ». Walking to the north, after about 100 meters you can go eastwards  and follow the "''Boulevard de Verdun''". The A1 crosses this "''Boulevard de Verdun''". And there is an entrance to the A1.
 
In 2014 there are big building activities of new flats. And the boulevard itself will be changed enormously. So best advice seems to be, just follow the signs "Paris".
 
  
;Third option
 
Go to metrostation « Porte d'Arras ». From there walk in the direction of the motorway, cross the bridge on the left you will see an accelerating lane going onto the ring (it is the A25, which joins the A1 to Paris after avout 1 km. The best is to stand next to the traffic lights just before the ramp with a sign. People have time to stop on the ramp if they want to take you. [[User:Garthelgard|Garthelgard]] has hitchhiked from this spot more than twenty times and has never waited more than 30 minutes.
 
  
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=== Going north? Take the A22/E17 towards [[Antwerpen|Antwerp]], [[Gent]], [[Netherlands]] ===
Go to metrostation « Porte de Postes ». Here is a big roundabout. It's possible to get a ride in almost any direction. It's safe for cars to pull over and one can ask also at the traffic lights.
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;Fifth option
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You can avoid getting stuck in Lille by getting out at the last petrol station on the A1 on "Aire de Phalempin" is quite a big station, good for hitching, and it's 15 km due south from the centre. However, in direction of Brussels it might be a bit difficult there. Most people go towards Ghent and Antwerp there.
Go to metrostation « Porte de Douai ». Walk or hitch 4 km south (direction Ronchin). Or take the bus "Liane 1". After 4 km you will see a Novotel on your lefthand. There is a roundabout where there is a sign direction A1 Paris. However there is no direct access to the A1, the traffic direction Paris soon joins the A1 near the village Seclin.
 
  
--[[User:Roelguldemond|Roelguldemond]] ([[User talk:Roelguldemond|talk]]) 12:19, 11 December 2013 (CET)
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Otherwise, take the tram-line T to Chateau Rouge. As you get out, you can see the motorway. The spot is the motorway slip road. There's not a lot of traffic, but there is space for drivers to safely pull over and pick you up.
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* '''Update april 2019'''To go to north on the A22-E17 stop at the "cerisaie centre d'affaires" tramway spot one the T blue line. Immediatly after the tramway stop there is a traffic light stopping cars witch can go on the motorway slope. There are few transborder workers so it is quite a good stop, even if there is not a lot of traffic and the red light is not very long. ATTENTION do not be dropped in the "rekkem" rest area immediatly after the belgium border, there are only trucks and you can easely be trapped here. Aim for the "marke" service station after the E17-E403 junction.
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Or else, get to the petrol station on the N356 about 800m north of metro station Monts Sarts. (Need to jump a small fence and a 2 meter drop! There is a place for your foot so you can slide and jump, but it is still quite a wall). From here you can find lifts going into Belgium and have the chance to talk to drivers.
  
=== A22/E17 South towards [[Paris]] ===
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The '''French/Belgium border''' is not a good spot anymore. It is now just a big parking lot where trucks stop, all sign of the previous building there have vanished, it is not possible to hitch on the highway anymore and hardly any car stop there. To get there you'll have to take the Line 2 of the metro until "C. H. Dron" (last stop, and actually already in Tourcoing, not in Lille). And walk 30 to 45 Min to it there is an access road with to fence or barrier stopping people on foot. You might be able to get a ride to the petrol station 5 km into Belgium at Kortrijk where loads of Netherland folk stop for a refill but it will be hard.
Take the tram-line line T to Chateau Rouge. As you get out, you'll see the motorway directly in front of you. The spot is the motorway slip road - you'll see it signposted 'Paris'. It is not ideal - especially if there is more than one of you and you have baggage - because the slip road is curved. This presents a safety issue that puts many drivers off and there are no lorries, rather it is is largely traffic domestic to Lille.  
 
  
When I was there there wasn't a lot of traffic, but there is an additional lane which allows drivers to safely pull in and pick you up. The problem is that not all the cars taking this route are going to be heading south - make a sign and be patient. [[User:International Bob|International Bob]] stopped a number of cars here, and got onto the A1 within an hour.
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=== Going east? Take the A27 towards [[Tournai ]](= Doornik in Flemish), [[Brussels]] ===
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Getting on the A27 by feet from the centre of Lille is several kilometers. A good option is go to "metro station « 4 Cantons »". From there it is about 500 meters to a roundabout which is situated west of the N227, where the D146 (a part of this D146 is called "''Rue Nicolas Appert''") is crossing the this N227 (which carries the name "''Boulevard du Breucq''", and is part of the E17).
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(September 2017 Roel dropped Nati, she is from Argentina, at this roundabout 11h00 in the morning. She claimed to found a hitch in 5 minutes.)
  
If you can find somewhere to hitch a lift to a nearbye service station (on the Paris bound motorway) this is much better. [[User:Pete the Temp|Pete the Temp]] and a friend failed on the above spot and got a lift to a service staion the next day and found a lift quite easily.
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=== Going west? Take the A25 towards [[Dunkerque]], [[Calais]] ===
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See above, going north:
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Go to ''metro station « Porte de Postes »''. Here is a big roundabout. It's possible to get a ride in several directions. Westwards : direction Calais/Dunkerque (via A25).
  
== Dunkerque, Calais, England, A25 ==
 
  
Take the subway to Saint-Philibert (red line). Then take the bus 61 (to this place, there is only one direction possible) to CENTRE COMMERCIAL (ENGLOS). Here, go back to the roundabout (20 meters). There is a direction to DUNKERQUE. There is not so much place to stop but the traffic isn't very high and cars are slow. If people don't reach Dunkerque directly, doesn't matter, that's in the good direction anyway. Go with them and take the entrance... Even with slow traffic, bad weather, you will find a lift very quickly. There are two area services between Englos and Dunkerque, and no one between Dunkerque and Calais.
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--[[User:Roelguldemond|Roelguldemond]] ([[User talk:Roelguldemond|talk]]) 12:19, 11 December 2013 (CET)
Most of the truckers you will see in service areas will go in England and going with them permit to through the sea for free!!
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''Comment by Roel september 2017 : I edited this page intensively. I have been deleting quite some information which seemed to be outdated or redundant. I described several options. Sure there are more options! But I have tried most of these possibilities myself.''
Event if it's long to waiting for them, it could be nice!
 
  
 
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Lille is expensive and is not very comfortable for the outdoor person. You probably won't have much of a problem with the police, but the drunks take being lunatics very seriously and they don't ever seem to pass out and leave you alone. As a result, you'll be met with all sorts of unwanted babbling conversation and one even tried to strangle [[User:Zac Stewart|Zac]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Zac Stewart|talk]]</sup></small> with a belt. Gare Lille Flandres is especially inhospitable.
 
Lille is expensive and is not very comfortable for the outdoor person. You probably won't have much of a problem with the police, but the drunks take being lunatics very seriously and they don't ever seem to pass out and leave you alone. As a result, you'll be met with all sorts of unwanted babbling conversation and one even tried to strangle [[User:Zac Stewart|Zac]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Zac Stewart|talk]]</sup></small> with a belt. Gare Lille Flandres is especially inhospitable.
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Revision as of 16:55, 25 May 2020

Lille is in Northern France on the border with Belgium.

Hitchhiking out

Going south? Take the A1 towards Paris, or directly to south of France join the A26 towards Reims, Dijon, Lyon (so also direction Spain & Italy)

Going to Paris? Have a "PARIS"-sign. The "autoroute" A1 leads to Paris.

Heading further than Paris? To the south of France (and Italy, Spain)? Have a "LYON"-sign. Why? To avoid Paris. It is difficult to cross Paris. Especially to leave Paris. So therefore consider a "LYON"-sign when you are still north of Paris. Try to get on the "autoroute" A26. Like try to someone take you to the "Peage" (= toll) right before the junction between A1/A26: stand at this "Peage"-square with a "A26/LYON"-sign).

From Lille you can choose to go the first petrol station on the A1, direction Paris. Leaving Lille with a "AIRE PHALEMPIN"-sign. If you can reach this petrol station "Aire de Phalempin" it is a good way to go south. (On Google Maps it seems you could walk to this petrol station, from the village of Seclin, south of Lille. Seclin has a train station. In french is described how you can get their by feet on: [1]))

From Lille there are several options to hitch hike direction A1.

Option 1

Go to metrostation « Porte d'Arras ». From there walk in the direction of the motorway, cross the bridge. On the left you will see an accelerating lane going onto the ring (it is the A25, which joins the A1 to Paris after about 1 km). You can stand next to the traffic lights just before the ramp with a sign. Or stand on the ramp itself, people have time to stop on the ramp.

Garthelgard has hitchhiked from this spot more than twenty times and has never waited more than 30 minutes.

  • In August 2012 to this wiki somebody added : "The best place to go anywhere is the hard shoulder near metrostation « Porte d'Arras » - just follow the signs to Highway. Within 20 minutes many cars heading towards every directions stopped. To Brussels use sign B and you get there very easy."


Option 2

Go to metro station « Valenciennes ». Walking to the north, after about 100 meters you can go eastwards and follow the "Avenue Denis Cordonnier". The A1 crosses this "Avenue Denis Cordonnier". And there is an entrance to the A1. (The Hostel/Auberge de jeunesse "Stephane Hessel" is on crossing of "Avenue Denis Cordonnier" and "Boulevard Paul Painlevé". Address: 235, Boulevard Paul Painlevé)


Option 3

At the end of Boulevard des Cités Unies (at the side of the railways). 300 meters eastwards from "metro station « Lille Grand Palais »", you find an entrance to the A1 direction Paris.


Option 4

Go to metro station « Porte de Postes ». Here is a big roundabout. It's possible to get a ride in several directions. Westwards : direction Calais/Dunkerque (via A25). Eastwards : directions like Paris/Gand/Anvers/Amsterdam/Brussels. It's safe for cars to pull over and one can ask also at the traffic lights.


Option 5

Go to metro station « Porte de Douai ». Walk or hitch 4 km south (direction Ronchin). Or take the bus "Liane 1". After 4 km you will see a Novotel on your lefthand. There is a roundabout where there is a sign direction A1 Paris. However there is no direct access to the A1, the traffic direction Paris soon joins the A1 (After several hundreds meter, so if you walk to the south, you will come to the next roundabout, here there is a direct access to A1. And cars can stop for you.)


Going north? Take the A22/E17 towards Antwerp, Gent, Netherlands

<map lat='50.62420185009975' lng='2.995147705078125' zoom='10' view='0' float='right'/>

You can avoid getting stuck in Lille by getting out at the last petrol station on the A1 on "Aire de Phalempin" is quite a big station, good for hitching, and it's 15 km due south from the centre. However, in direction of Brussels it might be a bit difficult there. Most people go towards Ghent and Antwerp there.

Otherwise, take the tram-line T to Chateau Rouge. As you get out, you can see the motorway. The spot is the motorway slip road. There's not a lot of traffic, but there is space for drivers to safely pull over and pick you up.

  • Update april 2019To go to north on the A22-E17 stop at the "cerisaie centre d'affaires" tramway spot one the T blue line. Immediatly after the tramway stop there is a traffic light stopping cars witch can go on the motorway slope. There are few transborder workers so it is quite a good stop, even if there is not a lot of traffic and the red light is not very long. ATTENTION do not be dropped in the "rekkem" rest area immediatly after the belgium border, there are only trucks and you can easely be trapped here. Aim for the "marke" service station after the E17-E403 junction.

Or else, get to the petrol station on the N356 about 800m north of metro station Monts Sarts. (Need to jump a small fence and a 2 meter drop! There is a place for your foot so you can slide and jump, but it is still quite a wall). From here you can find lifts going into Belgium and have the chance to talk to drivers.

The French/Belgium border is not a good spot anymore. It is now just a big parking lot where trucks stop, all sign of the previous building there have vanished, it is not possible to hitch on the highway anymore and hardly any car stop there. To get there you'll have to take the Line 2 of the metro until "C. H. Dron" (last stop, and actually already in Tourcoing, not in Lille). And walk 30 to 45 Min to it there is an access road with to fence or barrier stopping people on foot. You might be able to get a ride to the petrol station 5 km into Belgium at Kortrijk where loads of Netherland folk stop for a refill but it will be hard.

Going east? Take the A27 towards Tournai (= Doornik in Flemish), Brussels

Getting on the A27 by feet from the centre of Lille is several kilometers. A good option is go to "metro station « 4 Cantons »". From there it is about 500 meters to a roundabout which is situated west of the N227, where the D146 (a part of this D146 is called "Rue Nicolas Appert") is crossing the this N227 (which carries the name "Boulevard du Breucq", and is part of the E17). (September 2017 Roel dropped Nati, she is from Argentina, at this roundabout 11h00 in the morning. She claimed to found a hitch in 5 minutes.)

Going west? Take the A25 towards Dunkerque, Calais

See above, going north: Go to metro station « Porte de Postes ». Here is a big roundabout. It's possible to get a ride in several directions. Westwards : direction Calais/Dunkerque (via A25).


--Roelguldemond (talk) 12:19, 11 December 2013 (CET) Comment by Roel september 2017 : I edited this page intensively. I have been deleting quite some information which seemed to be outdated or redundant. I described several options. Sure there are more options! But I have tried most of these possibilities myself.

About the subway

There are check-tickets, often. And that's not so easy to know where they are and when... If you are french, they are not nice = if you don't pay the bill, they will take money on your bank account directly (for me, it was one year after but VERY expensive... so even if you don't live in Lille but in France, an advice: pay sooner as possible...) I don't know what happened for strangers... Maybe, they won't worry you too much. you can buy an 3 inter-stations ticket. It's for 0.70€, three stops (without the departure station) but they can't really check where did you start your trip :) and it's half less expensive.

Sleep

Lille is expensive and is not very comfortable for the outdoor person. You probably won't have much of a problem with the police, but the drunks take being lunatics very seriously and they don't ever seem to pass out and leave you alone. As a result, you'll be met with all sorts of unwanted babbling conversation and one even tried to strangle Zactalk with a belt. Gare Lille Flandres is especially inhospitable.


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