Hitchwiki talk:Organization (old stuff)

• May someone outline the responsilities an organization would take over if they present themself as Legal Board of Htichwiki.org? It s just about having someone paying the Domain? Is it about having a legal Organisation backing up Hitchwiki.org? Fabzgy 16:33, 10 September 2007 (CEST)

It is about having a legal organisation to back it up. At the moment I pay the domain, and I will probably continue doing this at least for a while. --MrTweek 17:42, 10 September 2007 (CEST)

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Would Option 1 mean that the wiki belongs to BV completely?

Both sounds good, but in any case I would like to keep it on my server, to have more control about it (I don't think I could get shell access to the BV-Server; Could I?)

In any case, I prefer the abgefahren-solution. I'll think about it, and let's see what others say --MrTweek 23:29, 11 September 2007 (CEST)

I don t think so. I don t think anyone in BV wants to make our server more busy. BV would probably very welcome it if you keep the wiki on your Server. It s more about a APT (Schnittstelle) between the Travelguide wiki of BW and the HW. This we we would have BeWelcome Memember editing your database. Probably completing it with new information. This could as well be done if HW decides to coohse Abgefahren e.V. as a roof organisation. Fabzgy 00:08, 12 September 2007 (CEST)

I think this would be a good solution and could be used for other organisations as well. Are there actually any APIs that make such things possible? Or is it always copying all the things and loosing the community? --Alex 01:09, 12 September 2007 (CEST)

Hey, I guess that we should choose a hitchhiking relevant organization rather than a volunteer network organization. (i hope i found the right words for both ;-) ) So my choice goes for the German Autostop Society. We of course should ask other HH Clubs/Organizations first, but currently some of the most active people here are already abgefahren members. Maybe this could be a problem for other non-members, so I would love to see some comments from them here.(guaka??) On the other hand we already have our own "abgefahren wiki", currently known as the german version of this wiki. Maybe it would be better for outstanding people to see the "english" version of the wiki in a more international way, and not like an English-written wiki from a German club. I hope you got my point of view......nevertheless, it would be great to create an interface (Schnittstelle?) between both pages, so that members of BW can also add information to the hitchwiki etc. Would be fine! And I've the same question that alex already mentioned... platschi^{site, wikitalk} 16:51, 13 September 2007 (CEST)

I see non of the wikis as a club wiki or written by its club members. Rather, as an organization behind the wiki which ensures the sustainability and growth of the whole project itself (which his resources and/or ability to mobilize people). To come to the API, I think we talk about the same as CS has for example, just to include the wiki in a nice way into your own webpage... --Alex 19:32, 13 September 2007 (CEST)

I get the point with the hitchiking orientated Organiztion but I think a more international Organisation as host would be better - because more neutral. It s indeed easir to get people contribute in a wiki when it s totally international wheter a Project of the German HH Club. Fabzgy 03:54, 14 September 2007 (CEST)

I see the point with a just international organisation, some sort of neutrality. I like the idea, when it is a nice organisation like about hospitality exchange, that people found their way to it. I would not like, even when it is a non-profit organisation, when it gives some the organisation some sort of advantage against other competitors in the same 'business'. I do see such a link between BeWelcome and Hitchhiking. Advantages from BeWelcome profits more from the Hitchhikers than the other way around (which find their way anyway to them). // Arguing further in this line of taking advantage, I would like that a hitchhiking related organisation profits in such a way. A more hitchhiking related club which (direct) aims are to promote hitchhiking as a way of traveling. This must not be the Abgefahren. // To give a comment to the argument of “It s indeed easier to get people contribute in a wiki when it s totally international whether a Project of the German HH”, I think it is never a project of the German HH, rather supported by the German HH (or by any other club). The constitutes of the club (abgefahren) sets a high value on the cooperation between the (international) hitchhiking clubs and community. The clubs aim is not to function as closed up organisation for its own (members) gain, the clubs aim is to server the public. // The reason I am very engaged in this discussion here, is because I see the same parallels between Veits efforts some years ago in IHHC (International Hitchhiker Clubs), the Hitchhikers Database of VHHC and the organisation BeWelcome. The past showed that the goals of such organisation are somehow engulfing. // I am happy to have a discussion about which aims of an organisation would correspond best with the ones of hitchwiki. --Alex 20:28, 14 September 2007 (CEST)

API

taken from above :)

How should this API look like? Do they want to integrate hitchwiki into their page? This should be possible somehow. --MrTweek^{site, wikitalk} 17:05, 13 September 2007 (CEST)

About Intergration of HitchWiki in BW: The Hitchwiki should be a part of our travelguide - maybe accomplished with content from WikiVoyage. I do nt know if this is possible. Display one Article who works with two different DB´s. If the HH Part is edited the edit would be in the HH DB and the same with Wikivoyage. Fabzgy 03:54, 14 September 2007 (CEST)

There's action=render, which is great for this, check e.g. http://en.hitchwiki.org/?title=Hitchwiki_talk:Organization&action=render Just cache the result locally (with a timeout of 30 minutes or so). Then all you need to do is add the GFDL license and possibly a link to action=edit :) guaka^{site, wikitalk} 18:24, 14 September 2007 (CEST)

Perfect. Looks great! So it s actually pretty easy. What is the conclusion so far for the Organization structure? The Cooperation with the Travelguide looks good to me. We should do that anyway. 190.10.6.133 19:08, 14 September 2007 (CEST)