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The place used to be a car camp place 30 years ago, then it used to be a venue for a punk festival, but now it's totally empty. It's hitchable. The nearest supermarket is in Jadrija, some 50 minutes on foot, although if you walk halfway to the crossroads, Jadrija people are quite willing to pick you up. Also, ppl from Jadrija are used to seeing campers there, thanks to the punk festival that was organised there some 15 years in a row.
 
The place used to be a car camp place 30 years ago, then it used to be a venue for a punk festival, but now it's totally empty. It's hitchable. The nearest supermarket is in Jadrija, some 50 minutes on foot, although if you walk halfway to the crossroads, Jadrija people are quite willing to pick you up. Also, ppl from Jadrija are used to seeing campers there, thanks to the punk festival that was organised there some 15 years in a row.
  
It's swimmable, it used to be the most popular swimming place for people of Šibenik before 1960s. [Photos https://www.google.com/search?q=martinska+kupali%C5%A1te&num=50&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQgJC736TNAhXEiCwKHSgCB5kQ_AUICSgC&biw=1366&bih=653]: (In the 1960s they all moved to build small summer houses in aforementioned Jadrija.)
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It's swimmable, it used to be the most popular swimming place for people of Šibenik before 1960s. [https://www.google.com/search?q=martinska+kupali%C5%A1te&num=50&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQgJC736TNAhXEiCwKHSgCB5kQ_AUICSgC&biw=1366&bih=653 Photos]: (In the 1960s they all moved to build small summer houses in aforementioned Jadrija.)
  
 
I don't think there is a big chance of you getting kicked out because the place is unused and kinda abandoned.
 
I don't think there is a big chance of you getting kicked out because the place is unused and kinda abandoned.
  
Here's the map: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/43.7303135,15.8772754/43.7267792,15.8466928/@43.7330906,15.8519753,14.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e2
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Here's the map: [https://www.google.com/maps/dir/43.7303135,15.8772754/43.7267792,15.8466928/@43.7330906,15.8519753,14.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e2 Check]
  
  

Revision as of 08:11, 16 June 2016

This page is a central dump for the organization of the 2016 Hitchgathering.

Discussion happens at the mailing list and the hitchgathering facebook group

This is a wiki. You see something that's wrong, edit. You think something is missing, edit.

Location of the place is still undecided. YOU can help to organise it.

Time: Early August.

Location Proposals

Lille Stensrud area in Oslo, Norway.

Taken from email transcripts:

The place is close to a squated area where I live (warlo). Unfortunately I dont think I'll be here by then (but who knows!) but I can arrange things while im here and then pass it on.

Im thinking of the area surounding this lake:

Pictures: [1] [2] [3]

Link to map: [4]

About the place: Its a strip of forest that its outside Oslo, 15km south, well connected by bus or bike. bus is 30kr adult and 15kr child (3 euro adult / 1,5 euro child, you can ride with child tickets to get in the bus and if a control comes you just get the fine unless you live in Norway and wanna stay out of trouble). The lake is one of my favorites in Oslo, its a perfect balance between size, warmth and hidden. Mind that there are many other beautiful lakes very close by (short walking distance). I dont think its a land that its owned by someone and if so, its probably one of those big companies that are trying to turn the forest into block buildings in the next years. I have been squatting in the area for some time, the forest is full with cabins (most of them trashed, some in good shape) that can be used trough the whole year to live in. While squatting, never got any problems. Authorities dont roam around the area as the whole Lille Stensrud area is kind of the white trash / freaks area of Oslo. So I dont promise no problems but I wouldn't expect much. Also, if the authorities come, the lake is half in Oslo district and half in Akershus, which is a different jurisdiction. So if we wanna play legal cool we can just "cross the border" and no more problems with Oslo. Also, good to remember that Scandinavian countries have the every-man's land right, which means you can camp everywhere for a maximum of 2 nights, but that is when you have been spotted by the right authorities and what you do is just move camp and that's it. Also, if you treat the place with respect, even in national parks the authorities are cool with people using the areas.

There was someone mentioning on the email list something about needing an expensive ferry to get to Norway. Well, that would make it much faster as you would avoid Sweden, but I made it many times and its totally doable. Also, if you have had enough slow experiences in Sweden and wanna skip it, there is a Swebus Copenhagen-Oslo connection for 25 euros (although we should rename the gathering to Bus-gathering if too many choose that way!)

SeedCamp / Organizers

  • Warlo | warlo who has an email in riseup and the following thing is a dot and then net | I have been living in the area

Pros

The place is beautiful, big forest all around

Well connected to Oslo

Very good dumpsters close-by (although that needs to be taken carefully as many squats around live from them)

August is blueberry season! and this time looks like its gonna be a record year!

The lake has a floating platform to paddle your way around it, which sounds silly but its the area's number one favorite entertainment.

Fishing possibilities.

Cons

It don't seem like any permission can be arranged for the area, so the gathering cannot be "secured" (although the area is huge and there are several spots where we can move and still have a great time)

Except for lake water drinkers, water source is accessible on a somewhat long walk (1.8km)

Remember that Scandinavian countries are somewhat rainy!

Bring anti-mosquito gear and ammo!

Discussion

When we gather there with 50-100 people and the dumpsters are already used by other squads, that might become a problem. Especially because buying food in Norway is so fucking expensive. I mean really....fucking expensive.


Martinska near Šibenik in Croatia

The place used to be a car camp place 30 years ago, then it used to be a venue for a punk festival, but now it's totally empty. It's hitchable. The nearest supermarket is in Jadrija, some 50 minutes on foot, although if you walk halfway to the crossroads, Jadrija people are quite willing to pick you up. Also, ppl from Jadrija are used to seeing campers there, thanks to the punk festival that was organised there some 15 years in a row.

It's swimmable, it used to be the most popular swimming place for people of Šibenik before 1960s. Photos: (In the 1960s they all moved to build small summer houses in aforementioned Jadrija.)

I don't think there is a big chance of you getting kicked out because the place is unused and kinda abandoned.

Here's the map: Check


SeedCamp / Organizers

Nina (?)

There is contact with some local people. Also there might be a cultural place who can support us a little. ("Azimut is a local bar - also Šibenik's cultural and art space that hosts travel-related talks and festivals and organises gigs.")

Pros

Mediterranean sea, good swimming possibilities. Sunshine.

Probably not as much mosquitos and moisture as in Norway

(Maybe) Possible to squad some abandoned houses there.

Accessibility is good. Hitchable.

Place seems culturally right and safe to occupy.

Cons

Quite a walk to the water place.

Only indirect contact with the locals.

Discussion

Example location

Write an overview here. Include exact location with coordinates (e.g. 42.892231,27.899687).

Include pictures if possible.

SeedCamp / Organizers

Team of people who are ready to travel in this location and take responsibility on the ground before others arrive:

  • Name | contact details | special contribution/interests

Pros

  • List the good sides that speak for arranging the Hitchgathering in this location.

Cons

  • List the hindrances for organizing the gathering here

Discussion

  • Other people can comment in this section