Category talk:Hitchhikers

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Maybe we should first ask ourselves why we want to put everyone in little boxes. You are black hitchhiker, I am white hitchhiker, you are a Jewish hitchhiker, I am an atheist hitchhiker, you are a vegan hitchhiker, I am a meat eating hitchhiker...

I am a hitchhiker and it doesn't matter a flying, excusez-le-mot, f*** where I come from, what my religion is, or what I eat!

Ever thought about the fact that some people might not want anyone other than their closest and most trusted friends to know where they come from? Prino 14:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


Should we perhaps also create categories for hitch-hikers from different countries, e.g. Hitchhikers from Germany? Analogue to en:wikipedia/Category:Explorers_by_nationality. It is a good tool to unite hitch-hikers from the same country, under the same category.--Sigurdas 17:59, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, sounds good. But do we want Hitchhikers from Germany or Hitchhikers living in Germany? The second one might be more accurate if someone moves to another country. --MrTweek 19:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Following the Wikipedia's patterns it is more convenient to have e.g. Hitchhikers from Germany - even if a person does not live there anymore, he/she is still considered to be from Germany. In such a case it wouldn't be wrong to apply two Hitchhikers from... categories to one user: the first one reflecting where the user comes from, and another - of his/her current location.
If we all agree on these new categories, I can create them and edit users' pages accordingly.--Sigurdas 19:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, then again, if someone lives in a country for a long time, he can also say he is from there. Alright, so feel free to start :) --MrTweek 20:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Definitely agree with this proposition. Hitchhikers from a certain region in terms of hitchhikers who are based in a certain region. It is not about what your passport says but where you're at/ based. Besides, I know hitchhikers with four nationalities. And where are you from anyway? Robino 23:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it might be confusing, but whatever, just start it, that's how the wiki work ;) Somehow, someday it will sort itself with all those categories ;) --Platschi 20:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I will do that. And I do not think we should emphasize the user's nationality but rather focus on the location he/she is from or where he/she resides at the moment - there is quite a significant difference between categories like Hitchhikers from Germany and German hitchhikers. And so I guess most of users will end up having 1 or 2 categories Hitchhiker from.... For example, I am half Russian half Lithuanian Polish born in Lithuania and living in Sweden - this means that I would get two categories Hitchhikers from Lithuania and Hitchhikers from Sweden but not the categories Hitchhikers from Poland and Hitchhikers from Russia since I am neither from there nor living there. If we were to depict the users' national identity it would be correct to apply categories Russian hitchhikers and Polish hitchhikers (+Lithuanian hitchhikers) though (in my case) but since nationality is of little importance for HitchWiki + it can be more puzzling to depict everyone's national identities fully and correctly we should rather abandon such a practice. --Sigurdas 05:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, it's done. ;) --Sigurdas 09:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Great work :) --MrTweek 10:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Nice :) Maybe also a category for people without a base and who are traveling at the moment? We know quite a few... Permanent travelers would maybe be a good one. I do like the undefined one also though ;) Robino 11:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
After another thought I really think instead of "from country x", it should be "based in country x". I am Dutch, and from the Netherlands but really, if I would define it myself, I am based in the Netherlands. It might be a minor thing to others but for me this is quite important as being "from a country" really associates you with the country you were born, and not were you are based. Like that we can also add the cat. "no permanent base". This would give a lot more justice to how most of us travel. --Robino 11:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, I see very little use of changing everything to "Based in..." - that would exclude places where a hitchhiker comes from if he or she does not live there anymore. "Hitchhikers from..." is more universal and at the same time unquestionably more precise when compared to category "Hitchhikers" since it depicts certain country(ies) (of residence and/or birth). In addition, I didn't really get why "Based in..." is so different from "Hitchhikers from" in terms of national belonging from your point of view... huh? ;)
Ok, let me be clear. I like the categorisation, it is nice to have an overview of the people who live close to me. But, I feel pretty insulted with this category and I think there might be some more contributors and hitchhikers. Hitchwiki is quite a special community with specific ideas about stuff. For istance, I almost never tell people I am from the Netherlands, but I am based here. I don't want to repeat my arguments really, but the from country x is confusing since we try to do two things here, one describe the nationality of people (Fuck nationality!!!) and two to describe where people currently live. The from category is therefore very confusing. Also I disagree with how you moved so quickly with this without waiting and consulting for other people to respond. Please rethink you action and think what others might think of it, also for future things you might do. Please remember we are no wikipedia and also, just like with hitchhiking, patience is a good gift, even more so when you start changing people's profiles. Robino 14:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
About "no permanent base" hitchhikers category: yeah, maybe. In such a case we could introduce Nomads category... hm?--Sigurdas 01:26, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Almost all of us define ourselves as nomads so that woudln't work either, although it is a nice suggestion. I still prefer hitchhikers without a permanent basem, or something similar Robino 14:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)