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The 888 project was a success. Let's make it look ridiculous compared to the 2009 edition. On 07/08/09, hitchhikers from all over the world will converge on a location that is still secret (because we haven't decided yet).

Philosophy

At the pre-meeting on the last day of 888, there was consensus on the fact that the event is more to promote the concept of Hitch-hiking rather than to all meet up somewhere and have a good time. This is why the proposal of meeting outside a city was ruled out: we want to be seen by strangers. We need to pick a place where many people can come without visas and where we have a local organizer.

Please feel free to add your ideas and help organizing the 2nd hitchhiking European week.

Where

At the meeting on the last day of 888, the general consensus was that the location had to move East, after Paris. If possible outside of the 15 original EU member-states. Ukraine was given a lot of attention because it is the only country in Europe where Schengen Zone Europeans, Ukrainians, Moldovans, Bielorussians, Russians and Turks can come together (though it is hard for hitchhikers from outside Europe to get a visa, they generally need an invitation letter).

Kosovo was also given a lot of attention for that matter but also because we have a great local correspondent there and it can be a great opportunity for us to promote peace and hitchhiking in a region that needs such action.

Any location within the Schengen space will make it close to impossible for the non-Schengen people to join. Plus the price of life in Schengen Space can be unaffordable for a lot of us.

Vote

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Suggested cities:

The list is quite long now. I suppose an argumented debate should take place on a descent forum, if only we had one...

Well guess what!? Here it is! A decent forum!

Top suggestions

Where are those fucking hicthhikers!?! (Ukranian Soldiers in Odessa beach)

Ukraine

Ukraine is getting a lot of attention right now because it seems it is the only country in Europe where any other European can go without much visa-issue. Check out the discussion

Kamenica, Kosovo

What is the visa situation for Serbia and Kosovo? In any case, I suppose that Russians wouldn't come because of the countries they'd need to cross - Sitarane 00:55, 17 September 2008 (CEST)

  • +: We have a great contact there that can find us a space and get us the media.
  • +: Would be a really cool challenge.
  • +: Hitchhiking for peace! up up
  • +: We can create a humanity mission, like everybody come with one toy for childrens
  • +: The big Hammam (Hamami i Mahd), built in 1470, 15 domes, but no mix male female
  • -: The border crossing is a bit difficult / event may become slightly political
  • -: Hitchhiking in Montenegro... forget it (unless you give money) [is it? Jason and his friend managed it easily and extremely fast in May, 2008]. Also Serbia is quite hard [since when? The only problem seems to be wild camping because of the goddamn mines!].
Please, mines were cleared years ago. People are camping all over Serbia now. For HH around Serbia, please check out this detailed HH guide to Serbia.--217.65.194.4 11:57, 16 September 2008 (CEST)
It depends where you go, there are still mines around. I have been there last year and deep in the mountains (at strategic places) are still mines around... --Alex 15:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah if fabrice and Pascale didn't get a ride there, this isn't the reason, In 2007, it was good to hitchhike alone in Serbia to go to Bulgaria, very good people there. We just have to find them and have good spots to don't stay 20 hours... MiSha 10:53, 28 August 2008 (CEST)
  • -: 11 205 hab in Kamenica, why not Pristina, for much attention ? MiSha 10:53, 28 August 2008 (CEST)
because we do not a have a great local correspondant there. The local correspondant in Kamonica knows all the networks so no need to go to Pristina.
If he knows all the network, why he still in Kamenica ?! It's just 25km away from Pristina, a city more attractive for promote hitchhiking MiSha 10:54, 28 August 2008 (CEST)

Krakow (Cracow), Pologne

  • +: In the centre of EU -good access from every Euro country
  • +: Big grassy open space next to the Old Town to make a meeting
  • +: Places to get a full dinner for 2-4 euro
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians
  • -: It's strictly forbidden to drink alcohol in public spaces!
  • -: polish police is usually unkind, so better to have everything legal, in Krakow - touristic capital of Poland - they might not be interested in having banch of dirty hhikers...

Suggestions

<map lat='49.38237278700955' lng='27.59765625' zoom='3' view='3' float='right' />Please add whatever city you think is a good idea and explain why. You can see a map with most locations added here


Split, Croatia

  • +: Good position for reaching from all corners of Europe
  • +: Not in schengen, possible at least for Balkan hitch-hikers
  • +: Not as controversal as Kosovo
controversal ?
by controversal I mean, that it might be more about politics, then hitchhiking...
  • +: Beautiful city next to the sea
  • -: HHing in Croatia is really hard
no, not really, for me it was easy this year, my vote for split --Quarim

Lausanne, Switzerland

  • +: best place for camping, direct on the Lake
  • +: huge hospex-network and engaged people living there
  • +: central in Western Europe but also easy to reach from Eastern Europe
  • -: expensive country, but good for juggling ;)
  • -: not a big city to call attention for hitchhiking

Copenhagen, Denmark

  • +: The more beautiful girls of Europe !!!Misha

Now come on! Sitarane

  • +: one of the 888 organizer lives there (good network)
  • -: expensive place
  • -: Schengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Belarusians, Turkish, Yougoslavians
  • +: sponsorships and the city is not that expensive if you go to the right places... ;o)

Riga, LV

  • +: Central in the Baltics, which is an epicentre of European hitch-hiking.
  • +: Open WIFI in the whole town. Now THAT's an advanced country!
  • -: Do we need to promote hitchhiking where it is already on good way?
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Hamburg, GER

  • +: We have a volunteer there
  • +: Central within Schengen
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Barcelona, SP

  • +: Spain definitely needs some education about Hitch-hiking/easy to get free food
  • +: Beaches to camp on, lots of squats.
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians
  • +: Spain is notorious for its poor hitchhiking hospitality. It would be incredible to promote hitchhiking here for future hitchhikers.

Utrecht, NL

  • +: Netherland is the country that has reserved official HHing spots. Let's reward them by trashing one of their parks with empty beer bottles
  • +: Quite central, easy hitch from anywhere really.
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Bratislava, SK

  • +: Not very touristic but very well known, we might get an official autorisation (it's also possible to get one for all the town...)
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Torino, IT

  • +: Italy definitely needs some education about Hitch-hiking.
  • -: very difficult place for hitch-hiking
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Munich, GER

  • +: Central within Schengen
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Brno, CZ

  • +: friendly, active, cultural city - great potential/not much expensive
  • -: Not very well known
  • -: Schengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Ljubljana, SL

  • +: free internet access in city + metelkova mesto
  • -: Schengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians. Becoming a very touristic place

Reikjavik, ICE

  • +: Hey, why not?
  • +: Beautiful country
  • -: Hard to reach by hitchhiking
  • -: Schengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Cabo de St Vincente, POR

  • +: The challenge: It is "the end of the road" in Europe. The westernmost point. / Nice beaches.
  • +: The beach !
  • -: Schengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Concerns

The two main concerns raised at the 888-last-day-meeting were:

  • Female HH safety in the country of arrival and in the "impossible to go around" countries.
  • The necessity of having a local coordinator/ support.

Coordination/Communication

Graphic for 789 by amylin.