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The 888 project was a success. Let's make it look ridiculous compared to the 2009 edition. On the 07/08/09, hitchhikers from all over the world will converge on a location that is kept secret up to now (because we haven't decided yet). This page will be used to coordinate the organisers until the month of October. Then we'll make something more informational or attractive.

Philosophy

789 planning written on the back of a hitchhiking sign

At the premeeting on the last day of 888, there was a consensus on the fact that the event is more to promote the concept of Hitch-hiking rather than to all meet up somewhere and have a good time. This is why the proposal of meeting outside a city was ruled out, because we want to be seen by strangers.

We need to pick a place where most nations can come visa-free and where we have a local organizer.

Please feel free to add your ideas and help organizing the 2nd hitchhiking European week.

Where

<map lat='49.38237278700955' lng='27.59765625' zoom='4' view='3' float='right' />Please add whatever city you think is a good idea and explain a little bit why. MAP (Please someone integrate it in the wiki, I don't know how to do it). I put that one for the moment, maybe someone know how we can a better one. MiSha 08:52, 26 August 2008 (CEST)


At the little meeting on the last day of 888, the general consensus was that the location had to move East, after Paris. If possible outside of the 15 original EU member-states. Ukraine was given A LOT of attention because it is the ONLY country of Europe that does not require complicated paperwork and expenses to get a visa. Kosovo was also given a lot of attention for that matter but also because we have a great local correspondent there and it can be a great opportunity for us to promote peace and hitchhiking in a region that needs such action. Any location within the Shengen space will make it close to impossible for the non-Shengen to join. Plus the price of life will be affordable for almost everyone.

Suggested cities:

Top suggestions

Where are those fucking hicthhikers !?! (Ukranian Soldiers in Odessa beach)

Ukraine

Ukraine is getting a lot of attention right now because it seems it is the only country in Europe where any other European can go without much visa-issue. Check out the discussion

Kamenica, Kosovo

  • +: We have a great contact there that can find us a space and get us the media.
  • +: Would be a really cool challenge.
  • +: Hitchhiking for peace!
  • +: The big Hammam (Hamami i Mahd), built in 1470, 15 domes, but no mix male female
  • -: The border crossing is a bit difficult / event may become slightly political
  • -: Hitchhiking in Montenegro... forget it (unless you give money) [is it? Jason and his friend managed it easily and extremely fast in May, 2008]. Also Serbia is quite hard [since when? The only problem seems to be wild camping because of the goddamn mines!].
  • -: 11 205 hab in Kamenica, why not Pristina, for much attention ?: because we do not a have a great local correspondant there. The local correspondant in Kamonica knows all the networks so no need to go to Pristina.

Krakow (Cracow), Pologne

  • +: In the centre of EU -good access from every Euro country
  • +: Big grassy open space next to the Old Town to make a meeting
  • +: Places to get a full dinner for 2-4 euro
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians
  • -: It's strictly forbidden to drink alcohol in public spaces!
  • -: polish police is usually unkind, so better to have everything legal, in Krakow - touristic capital of Poland - they might not be interested in having banch of dirty hhikers...

Suggestions

Copenhagen, Denmark

  • +: The more beautiful girls of Europe !!!Misha

Now come on! Sitarane

  • +: one of the 888 organizer lives there (good network)
  • -: expensive place
  • -: Schengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Belarusians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Riga, LV

  • +: Central in the Baltics, which is an epicentre of European hitch-hiking.
  • +: Open WIFI in the whole town. Now THAT's an advanced country!
  • -: Do we need to promote hitchhiking where it is already on good way?
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Hamburg, GER

  • +: We have a volunteer there
  • +: Central within Schengen
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Barcelona, SP

  • +: Spain definitely needs some education about Hitch-hiking/easy to get free food
  • +: Beaches to camp on, lots of squats.
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians
  • +: Spain is notorious for its poor hitchhiking hospitality. It would be incredible to promote hitchhiking here for future hitchhikers.

Utrecht, NL

  • +: Netherland is the country that has reserved official HHing spots. Let's reward them by trashing one of their parks with empty beer bottles
  • +: Quite central, easy hitch from anywhere really.
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Bratislava, SK

  • +: Not very touristic but very well known, we might get an official autorisation (it's also possible to get one for all the town...)
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Torino, IT

  • +: Italy definitely needs some education about Hitch-hiking.
  • -: very difficult place for hitch-hiking
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Munich, GER

  • +: Central within Schengen
  • -: Shengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Brno, CZ

  • +: friendly, active, cultural city - great potential/not much expensive
  • -: Not very well known
  • -: Schengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Lubjana, SL

  • +: free internet access in city + metelkova mesto
  • -: Schengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians. Becoming a very touristic place

Reikjavik, ICE

  • +: Hey, why not?
  • -: Hard to reach by hitchhiking
  • -: Schengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Cabo de St Vincente, POR

  • +: The challenge: It is "the end of the road" in Europe. The westernmost point. / Nice beaches.
  • +: The beach !
  • -: Schengen space. Tough visa for Russians, Bellarussians, Turkish, Yougoslavians

Concerns

The two main concerns raised at the 888-last-day-meeting were:

  • Female HH safety in the country of arrival and in the "impossible to go around" countries.
  • The necessity of having a local coordinator/ support.

Coordination/Communication

Web Site

  • We really have to get a Forum to help people organize their rides. We can't rely on CS groups, they suck.
I can do that --MrTweek 15:49, 11 August 2008 (CEST)
  • So,Do we need our own web site, or we stay on hitchwiki with all, can we find --MiSha18:23, 14 august 2008 (CEST)
  • Hitchwiki :
    • + easy for everyone to evaluate the project
    • + belongs to the hitchhiker community
    • + everyone can edit, it is the most horizontal way of organising
    • - a lot of thing isn't possible to do on that kind of site?
      • Any examples?
    • + we can integrate video + photo and also blog-postings.
    • + Already well known by search engines, so will lead more users to the site.
  • Own Web site :
    • + all in one !
    • + autonomy/responsibilities
      • You can have that on hitchwiki as well. Maybe just ask next time, instead of doing everything alone ;) There are some very motivated technical people around here ;)
    • + We're doing it for the world! We'll look more professional with a website.
      • to look More Professionnal isn't more useful... apparence will come after MiSha 19:53, 25 August 2008 (CEST)
    • - take a time to make it work
  • Others propositions : ?
    • We could have a Wordpress blog that can also have static pages. We can easily also integrate video + photo's and make it possible for anyone to post new blog-entries + link it directly to the wiki-pages. Plus, there are already Wordpress blogs integrated into this wiki but we could also do it external, see for a good example this site. --Robino 14:15, 15 August 2008 (CEST)
    • How about Drupal - a real CMS with tons of functionality installable as ready-made modules (including forums, wiki-style capabilities, user profiles, other community oriented features, media hosting, localization...), free & open source, active developer community, fast initial site setup, relatively painless to maintain even without programming experience (at least if the modules don't have to be customized too much). Narnua 18:18, 19 August 2008 (CEST)
      • Drupal is a really good cms sure but if we are going to it we need to have someone who really know Drupal php ect hmm... [here it's explain mush better than me]but when it's done it's perfect, anyway we have to know what functionality we want and need before starting develop on a specific cms xo
        • I wouldn't mind starting it off / helping with module tweaking but some more people would probably be needed as well for better sustainability Narnua 14:31, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
    • The "own webpage" could be just a couple of pages for Public Relations, where the links to the pages that matter can be found:
      • A third party wiki (namely hitchwiki)
      • Another third party forum (PHPbb for example)
      • A different 3rd party blog platform (Hey, wordpress!)
      • See below...

No need to reinvent the wheel.

  • What are the things we would want on a separate website? Suggestions:
    • Welcome page
    • Page for logistics
    • Blog-interface for latest updates
    • Integration with wiki-pages?
    • Integration with forum
    • Placeholder for media
Once again, edit if you want to add something.

Coordination with the HH clubs

We have to build a coordination with some partners, like the clubs of hitch-hikers in europe and maybe more ! everyone can ask to a club near from his place.

  • Ukrainian hitch-hiking club "Mainroad"
    • Web Site
    • Are they interested to participate :
  • Trans Europ Stop
    • Web Site
    • Are they interested to participate :

I think they are coming back from Roumania to France. Si I will send them the next newsletter but we don't have finish her ! MiSha

  • Academy Of Free Travels
    • Web Site
    • Are they interested to participate :
  • Moscow Hitch-hiking School
    • Web Site
    • Are they interested to participate :
  • Saint Petersburg Guild of Hitch-hiking Masters
    • Web Site
    • Are they interested to participate :
  • Saint Petersburg autostop league (RUS)
    • Web Site
    • Are they interested to participate :
  • Saint Petersburg's extreme travels team (Russia)
    • Web Site
    • Are they interested to participate :
  • Moscow club eXtreme trip
    • Web Site
    • Are they interested to participate :
  • Barnaul Autostop League
    • Web Site
    • Are they interested to participate :
  • Latvian Hitch-hiking Club "E67"
    • Site.
    • Are they interested to participate :
  • Utrecht (The Netherlands) Hitchhiking Club BOC
    • Site
    • Are they interested to participate :
  • Abgefahren e.V.
  • Lithuanian Hitch-hiking club „KELIAIvis“
    • Web site
    • Are they interested to participate: Yes
  • Vilnius Hitch-hiking club (Lithuania)
    • Web site
    • Are they interested to participate: