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<div>'''Belgrade''' ('''Beograd''' in Serbian) is the capital of [[Serbia]], home to around 2 million people. The main motorway (Autoput in Serbian) runs pretty much close to the centre of the city from the North West to the South East. Most cars also use this as a normal road so hitching out of Belgrade is quite difficult.<br />
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== Hitching Out ==<br />
=== Heading South East towards [[Niš]], [[Sofia]], [[Skopje]] ===<br />
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There are several possibilities.<br />
==== Bus 31 ====<br />
Take bus no. 31 from the city center (Trg Studentski -Students Square- or Trg Slavia -Slavia Square- or in front of the big Mac Donald), until you get to crossroads between Ustanička and Vojislava Ilića street (ask someone in the bus for Vojislava Ilića stop, but in case you miss it, it is the second stop before the last stop). From there walk to the bridge, cross it, go downstairs, and walk around 150 meters in opposite direction than cars passing by from that side of the motorway. There you will find a connection road to motorway, and it is the spot from where you can hitchhike towards the toll station. You should have sign which says "RAMPA" (toll station) in order to get a lift, otherwise you risk staying there for a long time :) It is possible that someone who is not going to the toll station, but to Leštane will give you lift, but it is no problem, since after he turns, you have only 10 minutes on foot to the toll station, once you reach it is easy to get direct rides all the way to Greece, Bulgaria, Macedonia or even Turkey if the driver doesn't mind u to sleep over in his truck.<br />
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[[User:T0ma5|t0ma5]] hitchhiked here 3 times, in 2009/10/11 and it worked very well for him.<br />
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==== Bus 29 ====<br />
Alternative (worked very well, a number of times, requires very little walking/riding on busses): If you are in the downtown area, past Slavia, near the big market and Mackenzia (sp?) street, you can take bus 29 out until it comes to a long bridge with blue railings. This bridge crosses the motorway (among many other things). If you get out before the bridge and cross to the side where traffic is coming in the opposite direction (don't go all the way across the length of the bridge), there are stairs going down that lead to the motorway, from which, you can walk just a few meters and find a shoulder with enough space for cars to pull over, perfect for hitchhiking!<br />
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Note: Jeremie used this spot and would like it made clear that it is dangereous, even if it works well.<br />
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2nd note: Wouter and Michiel used this spot an stood along the motorway for 3 hours holding a big Niš sign without being picked up. They eventually decided to take the bus to Sofia.<br />
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==== Tram 7 ====<br />
This option involves less walking amongst the motorway. From the city centre, take tram 7 in the direction south-east until the last stop (takes about 15 minutes, depending on the traffic). From there take bus 308, direction Veliki Mokri Lug (sometimes written as V.M.L.). After about ten minutes you will cross a bridge going over the motorway; get out at the next stop 100 meters later. From the bridge you will already see the petrol station where you want to go, which is about 200 meters walking. This petrol station is also located uphill. (This info is not entirely correct, I spent 4 hours while trying to get out of Belgrade. There is no way to reach the stop of 308 with Tram 7. You have to get off at Vukadin memorial or shortly Vuk and from there on, walk to a nearby kiosk and catch bus 6A, then go to the last stop Ustanicka and walk down the street. There you can catch 308 to VML. The gas station is a pretty good place to hitchhike, just don't be in it, cause there's just a few cars stopping and you'll be waiting quite a lot)<br />
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A sign saying "10 K.M." might be helpful in catching a local car which can take you to the first toll stop (a hitchhiking stop regularly used by locals) and out of the intense exhaust fumes.<br />
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If you're heading for Niš (or beyond) try using a sign (saying Niš). If going beyond Niš remember to leave the car *on the motorway* - not in Niš, unless you're a big fan of walking. About two hundred meters before the motorway split Niš and Sofia ([[Bulgaria]]) is an abandoned toll area where traffic is going slow and there's place for the cars to stop.<br />
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To hitchhike towards Niš, you should first reach the toll station, which can be a bit tricky, since you have to hitchhike while you are still in the city.<br />
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Find the map on http://www.serbiatravelers.org/en/index.php/hitchhiking/145-beograd<br />
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=== Heading South West towards [[Sarajevo]] ===<br />
There are 2 ways to Sarajevo, one through Čačak-Uzice, a bit south, the other one more direct but not written on online maps... The one through Čačak worked well for us. Take bus 53 from the green open market called "Zelena pijaca" in the center, to the last station. Then just follow the street for one minute, turn right, here is the exit to the motorway, climb up the bridge and try to hitchhike there, there is some place for cars to pull over, but in Serbia when they want to stop the car the dont really need a proper place ;). It seems that buses 531, 532, 533 go further, but it's not really needed, and they might be regional buses. Use signs ČA and/or UE (ČaČak-Uzice).<br />
This way through Čačak-Uzice is not the fastest but in t0ma5´s opinion very interesting, it will take you 6-7 hours to reach Sarajevo and before leaving Serbia you will pass near by GuČa, where a crazy Balkan music festival takes place every summer and just before the Bosnian border is Mokra Gora, the ethno village that the filmmaker Kustorica made for his movie, Life is a Miracle, you can visit it in few hours if you have the times but there is entrance fee.<br />
After Uzice there is not much traffic going to Bosnia since after the border and before Sarajevo there is not any big city, so if you get a ride the driver will probably take u all the way to Sarajevo :)<br />
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=== Heading North towards [[Budapest]] ===<br />
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It's best to take bus number 706 from Zeleni Venac station (big bus station in the city center)or 73 from New Belgrade. If you wish to hitchhike on the motorway, you should exit at overpass at Batajnica. If you wish to take the old road, which is probably the better option if you travel only to Novi Sad, then you should go further with that bus to the end of Batajnica suburb, until the bus turns from that road, at the church. Just go back to the same road you were previously at, and hitchhike from there. Batajnica is around 15 kilometers far from Zeleni Venac station, and bus takes around 40 minutes, depending on traffic jams.<br />
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Ask the driver to let you off at Batajnica for the entrance to the motorway. You'll see the signs anyway, but the ride is quite long. Be careful of pickpockets on the bus..an old man may look harmless but has quick hands, oh! When you get out, have a sign for Novi Sad and get out at the péage, the toll booth which is quite a way before Novi but the best place to stand to get a long distance ride..here you can whip out a sign for [[Budapest]]..it'll take a while, but beside you will be a bar just in case of thirst with quite cheap beers.<br />
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There is a map on http://www.serbiatravelers.org/en/index.php/hitchhiking/145-beograd<br />
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=== Heading North towards [[Novi Sad]] ===<br />
<br />
It's best to take bus number 706 from Zeleni Venac station (big bus station in the city center)or bus 73 from New Belgrade. If you wish to hitchhike on the motorway, you should exit at overpass at Batajnica . If you wish to take the old road, which is probably the better option if you travel only to Novi Sad, then you should go further with that bus to the end of Batajnica suburb, until the bus turns from that road, at the church. Just go back to the same road you were previously at, and hitchhike from there . Batajnica is around 15 kilometers far from Zeleni Venac station, and bus takes around 40 minutes, depending on traffic jams.<br />
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=== Heading West towards [[Zagreb]], ===<br />
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Take bus no. 16 from the upper part of Zeleni Venac station towards Novi Beograd, and exit after you pass traffic circle. Cross the street, and take bus no. 611. That bus will take you to the motorway, some 20 kilometers from Belgrade. Get off as soon as the bus turns from the motorway, and then return to the motorway. Start hitchhiking there. The toll station is around 7-8 kilometers far, but there's no need to go there on foot. Once you get to the toll station, we recommend using a sign for the direction you want to go, it is a good opportunity to get a direct ride, even all the way to Zagreb.<br />
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== Blackriding ==<br />
Controllers wear a standard navy blue suit and tie, in Belgrade, and it's said that if you're riding the trams daily you might encounter one controller in a week, or two weeks. <br />
You can skip them just standing on the door and leaving the bus or just tell them that you don't have any ID.<br />
__NOTOC__<br />
Spent two weeks riding all day every day - saw them coming like a great light in the night. Elephantson (jeremie) 2010<br />
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it seems they started wearing civilian clothes again, i saw them yesterday. marko bg<br />
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June 2010. they have green - yellow fluorescent shirts so it`s easy to see them.<br />
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January 2011 - Still wearing the fluorescent jackets coming in groups of 3 or 4 at the same time. Saw them working even on Saturday morning but always near the center, they don't go too far. [[User:T0ma5|t0ma5]]<br />
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[[Category:Serbia]]<br />
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<div>'''Belgrade''' ('''Beograd''' in Serbian) is the capital of [[Serbia]], home to around 2 million people. The main motorway (Autoput in Serbian) runs pretty much close to the centre of the city from the North West to the South East. Most cars also use this as a normal road so hitching out of Belgrade is quite difficult.<br />
<br />
== Hitching Out ==<br />
=== Heading South East towards [[Niš]], [[Sofia]], [[Skopje]] ===<br />
<br />
There are several possibilities.<br />
==== Bus 31 ====<br />
Take bus no. 31 from the city center (Trg Studentski -Students Square- or Trg Slavia -Slavia Square- or in front of the big Mac Donald), until you get to crossroads between Ustanička and Vojislava Ilića street (ask someone in the bus for Vojislava Ilića stop, but in case you miss it, it is the second stop before the last stop). From there walk to the bridge, cross it, go downstairs, and walk around 150 meters in opposite direction than cars passing by from that side of the motorway. There you will find a connection road to motorway, and it is the spot from where you can hitchhike towards the toll station. You should have sign which says "RAMPA" (toll station) in order to get a lift, otherwise you risk staying there for a long time :) It is possible that someone who is not going to the toll station, but to Leštane will give you lift, but it is no problem, since after he turns, you have only 10 minutes on foot to the toll station, once you reach it is easy to get direct rides all the way to Greece, Bulgaria, Macedonia or even Turkey if the driver doesn't mind u to sleep over in his truck.<br />
<br />
[[User:T0ma5|t0ma5]] hitchhiked here 3 times, in 2009/10/11 and it worked very well for him.<br />
<br />
==== Bus 29 ====<br />
Alternative (worked very well, a number of times, requires very little walking/riding on busses): If you are in the downtown area, past Slavia, near the big market and Mackenzia (sp?) street, you can take bus 29 out until it comes to a long bridge with blue railings. This bridge crosses the motorway (among many other things). If you get out before the bridge and cross to the side where traffic is coming in the opposite direction (don't go all the way across the length of the bridge), there are stairs going down that lead to the motorway, from which, you can walk just a few meters and find a shoulder with enough space for cars to pull over, perfect for hitchhiking!<br />
<br />
Note: Jeremie used this spot and would like it made clear that it is dangereous, even if it works well.<br />
<br />
2nd note: Wouter and Michiel used this spot an stood along the motorway for 3 hours holding a big Niš sign without being picked up. They eventually decided to take the bus to Sofia.<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Tram 7 ====<br />
This option involves less walking amongst the motorway. From the city centre, take tram 7 in the direction south-east until the last stop (takes about 15 minutes, depending on the traffic). From there take bus 308, direction Veliki Mokri Lug (sometimes written as V.M.L.). After about ten minutes you will cross a bridge going over the motorway; get out at the next stop 100 meters later. From the bridge you will already see the petrol station where you want to go, which is about 200 meters walking. This petrol station is also located uphill. (This info is not entirely correct, I spent 4 hours while trying to get out of Belgrade. There is no way to reach the stop of 308 with Tram 7. You have to get off at Vukadin memorial or shortly Vuk and from there on, walk to a nearby kiosk and catch bus 6A, then go to the last stop Ustanicka and walk down the street. There you can catch 308 to VML. The gas station is a pretty good place to hitchhike, just don't be in it, cause there's just a few cars stopping and you'll be waiting quite a lot)<br />
<br />
A sign saying "10 K.M." might be helpful in catching a local car which can take you to the first toll stop (a hitchhiking stop regularly used by locals) and out of the intense exhaust fumes.<br />
<br />
If you're heading for Niš (or beyond) try using a sign (saying Niš). If going beyond Niš remember to leave the car *on the motorway* - not in Niš, unless you're a big fan of walking. About two hundred meters before the motorway split Niš and Sofia ([[Bulgaria]]) is an abandoned toll area where traffic is going slow and there's place for the cars to stop.<br />
<br />
To hitchhike towards Niš, you should first reach the toll station, which can be a bit tricky, since you have to hitchhike while you are still in the city.<br />
<br />
Find the map on http://www.serbiatravelers.org/en/index.php/hitchhiking/145-beograd<br />
<br />
=== Heading South West towards [[Sarajevo]] ===<br />
There are 2 ways to Sarajevo, one through Čačak-Uzice, a bit south, the other one more direct but not written on online maps... The one through Čačak worked well for us. Take bus 53 from the green open market called "Zelena pijaca" in the center, to the last station. Then just follow the street for one minute, turn right, here is the exit to the motorway, climb up the bridge and try to hitchhike there, there is some place for cars to pull over, but in Serbia when they want to stop the car the dont really need a proper place ;). It seems that buses 531, 532, 533 go further, but it's not really needed, and they might be regional buses. Use signs ČA and/or UE (ČaČak-Uzice).<br />
This way through Čačak-Uzice is not the fastest but in t0ma5´s opinion very interesting, it will take you 6-7 hours to reach Sarajevo and before leaving Serbia you will pass near by GuČa, where a crazy Balkan music festival takes place every summer and just before the Bosnian border is Mokra Gora, the ethno village that the filmmaker Kustorica made for his movie, Life is a Miracle, you can visit it in few hours if you have the times but there is entrance fee.<br />
After Uzice there is not much traffic going to Bosnia since after the border and before Sarajevo there is not any big city, so if you get a ride the driver will probably take u all the way to Sarajevo :)<br />
<br />
=== Heading North towards [[Budapest]] ===<br />
<br />
It's best to take bus number 706 from Zeleni Venac station (big bus station in the city center)or 73 from New Belgrade. If you wish to hitchhike on the motorway, you should exit at overpass at Batajnica. If you wish to take the old road, which is probably the better option if you travel only to Novi Sad, then you should go further with that bus to the end of Batajnica suburb, until the bus turns from that road, at the church. Just go back to the same road you were previously at, and hitchhike from there. Batajnica is around 15 kilometers far from Zeleni Venac station, and bus takes around 40 minutes, depending on traffic jams.<br />
<br />
Ask the driver to let you off at Batajnica for the entrance to the motorway. You'll see the signs anyway, but the ride is quite long. Be careful of pickpockets on the bus..an old man may look harmless but has quick hands, oh! When you get out, have a sign for Novi Sad and get out at the péage, the toll booth which is quite a way before Novi but the best place to stand to get a long distance ride..here you can whip out a sign for [[Budapest]]..it'll take a while, but beside you will be a bar just in case of thirst with quite cheap beers.<br />
<br />
There is a map on http://www.serbiatravelers.org/en/index.php/hitchhiking/145-beograd<br />
<br />
=== Heading North towards [[Novi Sad]] ===<br />
<br />
It's best to take bus number 706 from Zeleni Venac station (big bus station in the city center)or bus 73 from New Belgrade. If you wish to hitchhike on the motorway, you should exit at overpass at Batajnica . If you wish to take the old road, which is probably the better option if you travel only to Novi Sad, then you should go further with that bus to the end of Batajnica suburb, until the bus turns from that road, at the church. Just go back to the same road you were previously at, and hitchhike from there . Batajnica is around 15 kilometers far from Zeleni Venac station, and bus takes around 40 minutes, depending on traffic jams.<br />
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=== Heading West towards [[Zagreb]], ===<br />
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Take bus no. 16 from the upper part of Zeleni Venac station towards Novi Beograd, and exit after you pass traffic circle. Cross the street, and take bus no. 611. That bus will take you to the motorway, some 20 kilometers from Belgrade. Get off as soon as the bus turns from the motorway, and then return to the motorway. Start hitchhiking there. The toll station is around 7-8 kilometers far, but there's no need to go there on foot. Once you get to the toll station, we recommend using a sign for the direction you want to go, it is a good opportunity to get a direct ride, even all the way to Zagreb.<br />
<br />
== Blackriding ==<br />
Controllers wear a standard navy blue suit and tie, in Belgrade, and it's said that if you're riding the trams daily you might encounter one controller in a week, or two weeks. <br />
You can skip them just standing on the door and leaving the bus or just tell them that you don't have any ID.<br />
__NOTOC__<br />
Spent two weeks riding all day every day - saw them coming like a great light in the night. Elephantson (jeremie) 2010<br />
<br />
it seems they started wearing civilian clothes again, i saw them yesterday. marko bg<br />
<br />
June 2010. they have green - yellow fluorescent shirts so it`s easy to see them.<br />
<br />
January 2011 - Still wearing the fluorescent jackets coming in groups of 3 or 4 at the same time. Saw them working even on Saturday morning but always near the center, they don't go too far. t0ma5<br />
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[[Category:Serbia]]<br />
[[Category:E75]]<br />
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<div>{{Infobox Location<br />
|country = Croatia<br />
|state = City of Zagreb<br />
|map = <map lat='45.79338211440398' lng='15.970001220703125' zoom='11' view='3' float='right'/><br />
|pop = 804,200<br />
|plate = ZG<br />
|motorways = [[A1 (Croatia)|A1]], [[A2 (Croatia)|A2]], [[A3 (Croatia)|A3]], [[A4 (Croatia)|A4]], [[A11(Croatia)|A11]]<br />
|hitchbase = 268<br />
}}<br />
'''Zagreb''' is the capital of [[Croatia]].<br />
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== Hitching Out ==<br />
=== Direction Karlovac [[Rijeka]] and [[Split]], Dalmacija ===<br />
[[File:Zagreb_t0ma5.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Street that leads to the Lučko toll station]] To get to the ''Lučko'' ramp (toll station) on the motorway you have to catch tram #4, #14,or #17. Get out at stop ''Savski most''. It's a bus terminal where you can catch buses #111 or #132. These buses drive to ''Lučko''. Get off at the 4th stop (15 minutes ride approx.) or ask the driver to tell you where, if nobody ask for a stop you won't be able to count it because the bus won't stop there. Once you get off you will see two streets, a small one very close to you and a big one a bit further that looks like it leads to the motorway but it doesn't, take the small street till the end and you will find the motorway. If you are going to ''Dalmacia'' (Zadar, Split, etc.) don't take rides to Rijeka because it is a bit out of your way. Car plates for each city: Rijeka (RI) Zadar (ZD) Split (ST). It should be very easy to get a ride from there.<br />
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=== Direction [[Slavonski Brod]], [[Belgrade]] and [[Bosnia]] ===<br />
You have three options for these destinations. <br />
* First option is to get a bus on one of the main bus terminals in Zagreb. The name of that terminal is ''Kvatrić'' or ''Kvaternikov Trg''(square), it's close to the centre of Zagreb. There you have to get on bus #216 or #276 which ride you to ''Ivanja Reka'' or the main on-ramp on the motorway. Of course ask the bus driver to leave you in ''Ivanja Reka''. In this place you have 20 minutes of walk through some fields. But don't worry, it's a delightful walk. After you reach the ramp you can easily get rides directly to the border with [[Serbia]], Belgrade and the border with Bosnia.<br />
* Second option is to get the tram #2, #3 or #13 to ''Savišće'' or ''Žitnjak''. Get out at the last stop and then walk for about 15 minutes towards the motorway. On the motorway you'll find a bus stop and there you can easily hitchhike towards the on-ramp in ''Ivanja Reka'' or you can even stop cars who are going to Belgrade or Bosnia. Ask the locals for extra tips and explanations.<br />
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''[[User:nuclearphyllis|Nuclearphyllis]]' local experts took him to the first toll station on the Zagreb-Belgrade motorway, even though it was illegal to hitchhike from there. They weren't troubled and got a ride within 10 minutes.''<br />
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*Third option, even better than going to ''Ivanja Reka'',is going to ''Dumovec'' with bus #276. This spot gets you closer to the tolls, but you have to jump over a fence, which is really not a problem. So, get off in ''Dumovec'' (the last stop), walk back a bit from the right side of the road and you will see a path going towards the motorway. Follow it till you get to the fence, jump over and from there you have about 1,5km of walking to tolls.<br />
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=== Direction [[Budapest]], [[Varazdin]] and [[Cakovec]] ===<br />
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Take bus number 276 till 2 stations before the final station. Ask for the church in Ivanja Reka, people will know it, you should get out there. There will be a small road which leads to the on ramp, ask people for which one it is. You should walk till the traffic lights, the turn right and you already see the place. After the lights you should walk about 300 meters and you can start hitching there with a sign VZ for example. Works like a charm, someone waited there for less than 10 minutes.<br />
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=== Direction [[Ljubljana]], [[Austria]], [[Novo Mesto]] ===<br />
Take tram #5 or #17 from the centre of Zagreb towards the ''Precko''. Notice that the ride takes a lot of time, 45 minutes at least. In ''Precko'', exit the tram and walk left. You'll see a street that turns right. Take this street and walk 5 minutes till you get to the main street ''Ljubljanska Avenija'' (also called ''Zagrebacka Avenija''). Cross this street in front of the ''Konzum'' supermarket and turn left. You will see a small bus station, this is your spot. However most people commute from this point. Best is to hitchhike from there with a SLO sign. Don't take rides that don't take you at least to the border - There is no good places to hitchhike further down the road. From the border crossing itself it's relatively easy to get a good ride, even as far as to Austria.<br />
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On a [[Sunday]] Erga and [[User:Guaka|guaka]] waited way to long. Not a single car stopped in two hours time, and at the gas stations everyone with space pretended not to go anywhere near Slovenia (West or North). Two Belgian guys didn't manage to get a ride in the same period, also trying in different spots in the area ([[User:Guaka|guaka]] somehow convinced the West Gate bus driver to also pick them up). Use the West Gate option if you're simply heading to Austria, find another solution if you're heading towards Ljubljana...<br />
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=== North, direction [[Maribor]], [[Graz]], [[Vienna]] ===<br />
From the Črnomerec and Ljubljanica bus terminal there's a free bus (red or white color) to West Gate shopping center which is adjactent to pay-tolls [http://westgate.com.hr/index.php?lan=cr&id=220], see also [http://maps.google.com/?q=zagreb&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=City+of+Zagreb,+Croatia&ll=45.874518,15.829003&spn=0.009815,0.02459&t=h&z=16 Google Maps], the toll place is very close to the shopping center, you can see it from the parking lot where the bus arrives. But you will have to cross a bit of water. Don't try this in the dark. Look for one of the areas with stones covered by metal or just walk about 300 mts in opposite direction of the shopping mall and you will find a little bridge, handy! then come back to the pay toll.<br />
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If you're heading to [[Slovenia]] or further you'll have to make it to the [[Macelj-Kozminci border crossing]], from where you can easily get rides far into [[Germany]].<br />
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You better forget about trying the Precko option (towards Ljubljana), Erga and [[User:Guaka|guaka]] waited for about 2 hours, asking people, with signs (''Macelj'', ''Maribor'', SLO) and without sign. Fortunately the free bus to the West Gate center also goes from this above spot.<br />
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[[User:T0ma5|t0ma5]] was hitchhiking here in January 2011 and he got a ride all the way to Vienna in about 20min.<br />
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== Resources ==<br />
=== Sleeping ===<br />
For decent camping, take tram #6 from the central train station to Crnomerec, continue walking down Ilica a hundred meters or so, turn Right on Kustosijanca, and walk up this street for two hundred meters past an old train trestle. There is easy access to trails in the woods and decent places to camp without being disturbed. <br />
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=== Internet access ===<br />
Club Mama, 'net.culture.club' is an open space with a cool library of technical, cultural, and revolutionary books, wifi, and frequent talks and skillshares. Ulica Petra Preradovićeva 18, at the back of a square between buildings. http://www.mi2.hr/<br />
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Optima Telekom centar, Savska 5 has free Internet access for advertising purposes so you can just come in say hello to people who work three and go on the Internet. There are mostly friendly and you can surf as long as you want. You can get to that location by taking tram 2,4,9 from Main train station (glavni kolodvor) and make sure to get out on Vodnikova and walk few meters until you are on Savska ulica. Then go left and after 1-2 minutes you will see Optima Telekom center on your right side.<br />
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The National Library of Croatia is approximately one km south of the train station. Open until 8PM on weekdays, 3PM on Saturday, it provides power outlets, wifi, and access to public computers.<br />
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=== Public transport ===<br />
Black-riding is possible and most of people in Zagreb who don't have monthly or yearly tickets do this in trams and in buses there is almost no control. Controllers are sometimes all over the town but mostly there is nobody for months. There are in groups of 2-3 wearing blue uniform just like the driver so if you see them just get out and wait another tram. Playing the "dumb tourist" will work because they don't have authority to ask you passport or your id and if you give them your passport they can't send you a bill to your home because you are not citizen of Croatia. Also they will not call police because there are city owned company and controllers have fixed paychecks so they don't give a damn too much.<br />
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=== Eating ===<br />
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Zagreb is full of students who have iksica (electronic card with which they can eat whole lunch witch soup, meat and juice for less than euro). So if you want you can go to studentski centar (savska 25) by taking trams 2.4.9 from main train station (Glavni kolodvor) to Vodnikova cross the street and go right for 5-6 minutes until you reach big open space with caffe bar and lots of people moving around. Just ask somebody on the entrace to borrow you iksica and most of people will do it. Also if you are cold and you want to you can stay in Studentski centar until 9pm and on the first floor are some couches where you can take a nap. homeless people sometimes sleep there. You can get there from main square (Jelacic platz) taking trams 17, 14 to Studentski centar station or 12 to Technical museum station (technical museum and studentski centar stations are practicly the same stations) and just across the street is studentski centar. <br />
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<div>{{Infobox Location<br />
|country = Croatia<br />
|state = City of Zagreb<br />
|map = <map lat='45.79338211440398' lng='15.970001220703125' zoom='11' view='3' float='right'/><br />
|pop = 804,200<br />
|plate = ZG<br />
|motorways = [[A1 (Croatia)|A1]], [[A2 (Croatia)|A2]], [[A3 (Croatia)|A3]], [[A4 (Croatia)|A4]], [[A11(Croatia)|A11]]<br />
|hitchbase = 268<br />
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'''Zagreb''' is the capital of [[Croatia]].<br />
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== Hitching Out ==<br />
=== Direction Karlovac [[Rijeka]] and [[Split]], Dalmacija ===<br />
[[File:Zagreb_t0ma5.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Street that leads to the Lučko toll station]] To get to the ''Lučko'' ramp (toll station) on the motorway you have to catch tram #4, #14,or #17. Get out at stop ''Savski most''. It's a bus terminal where you can catch buses #111 or #132. These buses drive to ''Lučko''. Get off at the 4th stop (15 minutes ride approx.) or ask the driver to tell you where, if nobody ask for a stop you won't be able to count it because the bus won't stop there. Once you get off you will see two streets, a small one very close to you and a big one a bit further that looks like it leads to the motorway but it doesn't, take the small street till the end and you will find the motorway. If you are going to ''Dalmacia'' (Zadar, Split, etc.) don't take rides to Rijeka because it is a bit out of your way. Car plates for each city: Rijeka (RI) Zadar (ZD) Split (ST). It should be very easy to get a ride from there.<br />
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=== Direction [[Slavonski Brod]], [[Belgrade]] and [[Bosnia]] ===<br />
You have three options for these destinations. <br />
* First option is to get a bus on one of the main bus terminals in Zagreb. The name of that terminal is ''Kvatrić'' or ''Kvaternikov Trg''(square), it's close to the centre of Zagreb. There you have to get on bus #216 or #276 which ride you to ''Ivanja Reka'' or the main on-ramp on the motorway. Of course ask the bus driver to leave you in ''Ivanja Reka''. In this place you have 20 minutes of walk through some fields. But don't worry, it's a delightful walk. After you reach the ramp you can easily get rides directly to the border with [[Serbia]], Belgrade and the border with Bosnia.<br />
* Second option is to get the tram #2, #3 or #13 to ''Savišće'' or ''Žitnjak''. Get out at the last stop and then walk for about 15 minutes towards the motorway. On the motorway you'll find a bus stop and there you can easily hitchhike towards the on-ramp in ''Ivanja Reka'' or you can even stop cars who are going to Belgrade or Bosnia. Ask the locals for extra tips and explanations.<br />
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''[[User:nuclearphyllis|Nuclearphyllis]]' local experts took him to the first toll station on the Zagreb-Belgrade motorway, even though it was illegal to hitchhike from there. They weren't troubled and got a ride within 10 minutes.''<br />
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*Third option, even better than going to ''Ivanja Reka'',is going to ''Dumovec'' with bus #276. This spot gets you closer to the tolls, but you have to jump over a fence, which is really not a problem. So, get off in ''Dumovec'' (the last stop), walk back a bit from the right side of the road and you will see a path going towards the motorway. Follow it till you get to the fence, jump over and from there you have about 1,5km of walking to tolls.<br />
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=== Direction [[Budapest]], [[Varazdin]] and [[Cakovec]] ===<br />
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Take bus number 276 till 2 stations before the final station. Ask for the church in Ivanja Reka, people will know it, you should get out there. There will be a small road which leads to the on ramp, ask people for which one it is. You should walk till the traffic lights, the turn right and you already see the place. After the lights you should walk about 300 meters and you can start hitching there with a sign VZ for example. Works like a charm, someone waited there for less than 10 minutes.<br />
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=== Direction [[Ljubljana]], [[Austria]], [[Novo Mesto]] ===<br />
Take tram #5 or #17 from the centre of Zagreb towards the ''Precko''. Notice that the ride takes a lot of time, 45 minutes at least. In ''Precko'', exit the tram and walk left. You'll see a street that turns right. Take this street and walk 5 minutes till you get to the main street ''Ljubljanska Avenija'' (also called ''Zagrebacka Avenija''). Cross this street in front of the ''Konzum'' supermarket and turn left. You will see a small bus station, this is your spot. However most people commute from this point. Best is to hitchhike from there with a SLO sign. Don't take rides that don't take you at least to the border - There is no good places to hitchhike further down the road. From the border crossing itself it's relatively easy to get a good ride, even as far as to Austria.<br />
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On a [[Sunday]] Erga and [[User:Guaka|guaka]] waited way to long. Not a single car stopped in two hours time, and at the gas stations everyone with space pretended not to go anywhere near Slovenia (West or North). Two Belgian guys didn't manage to get a ride in the same period, also trying in different spots in the area ([[User:Guaka|guaka]] somehow convinced the West Gate bus driver to also pick them up). Use the West Gate option if you're simply heading to Austria, find another solution if you're heading towards Ljubljana...<br />
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=== North, direction [[Maribor]], [[Graz]], [[Vienna]] ===<br />
From the Črnomerec and Ljubljanica bus terminal there's a free bus (red or white color) to West Gate shopping center which is adjactent to pay-tolls [http://westgate.com.hr/index.php?lan=cr&id=220], see also [http://maps.google.com/?q=zagreb&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=City+of+Zagreb,+Croatia&ll=45.874518,15.829003&spn=0.009815,0.02459&t=h&z=16 Google Maps], the toll place is very close to the shopping center, you can see it from the parking lot where the bus arrives. But you will have to cross a bit of water. Don't try this in the dark. Look for one of the areas with stones covered by metal or just walk about 300 mts in opposite direction of the shopping mall and you will find a little bridge, handy! then come back to the pay toll.<br />
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If you're heading to [[Slovenia]] or further you'll have to make it to the [[Macelj-Kozminci border crossing]], from where you can easily get rides far into [[Germany]].<br />
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You better forget about trying the Precko option (towards Ljubljana), Erga and [[User:Guaka|guaka]] waited for about 2 hours, asking people, with signs (''Macelj'', ''Maribor'', SLO) and without sign. Fortunately the free bus to the West Gate center also goes from this above spot.<br />
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t0ma5 was hitchhiking here in January 2011 and he got a ride all the way to Vienna in about 20min.<br />
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== Resources ==<br />
=== Sleeping ===<br />
For decent camping, take tram #6 from the central train station to Crnomerec, continue walking down Ilica a hundred meters or so, turn Right on Kustosijanca, and walk up this street for two hundred meters past an old train trestle. There is easy access to trails in the woods and decent places to camp without being disturbed. <br />
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=== Internet access ===<br />
Club Mama, 'net.culture.club' is an open space with a cool library of technical, cultural, and revolutionary books, wifi, and frequent talks and skillshares. Ulica Petra Preradovićeva 18, at the back of a square between buildings. http://www.mi2.hr/<br />
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Optima Telekom centar, Savska 5 has free Internet access for advertising purposes so you can just come in say hello to people who work three and go on the Internet. There are mostly friendly and you can surf as long as you want. You can get to that location by taking tram 2,4,9 from Main train station (glavni kolodvor) and make sure to get out on Vodnikova and walk few meters until you are on Savska ulica. Then go left and after 1-2 minutes you will see Optima Telekom center on your right side.<br />
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The National Library of Croatia is approximately one km south of the train station. Open until 8PM on weekdays, 3PM on Saturday, it provides power outlets, wifi, and access to public computers.<br />
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=== Public transport ===<br />
Black-riding is possible and most of people in Zagreb who don't have monthly or yearly tickets do this in trams and in buses there is almost no control. Controllers are sometimes all over the town but mostly there is nobody for months. There are in groups of 2-3 wearing blue uniform just like the driver so if you see them just get out and wait another tram. Playing the "dumb tourist" will work because they don't have authority to ask you passport or your id and if you give them your passport they can't send you a bill to your home because you are not citizen of Croatia. Also they will not call police because there are city owned company and controllers have fixed paychecks so they don't give a damn too much.<br />
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=== Eating ===<br />
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Zagreb is full of students who have iksica (electronic card with which they can eat whole lunch witch soup, meat and juice for less than euro). So if you want you can go to studentski centar (savska 25) by taking trams 2.4.9 from main train station (Glavni kolodvor) to Vodnikova cross the street and go right for 5-6 minutes until you reach big open space with caffe bar and lots of people moving around. Just ask somebody on the entrace to borrow you iksica and most of people will do it. Also if you are cold and you want to you can stay in Studentski centar until 9pm and on the first floor are some couches where you can take a nap. homeless people sometimes sleep there. You can get there from main square (Jelacic platz) taking trams 17, 14 to Studentski centar station or 12 to Technical museum station (technical museum and studentski centar stations are practicly the same stations) and just across the street is studentski centar. <br />
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[[Category:E65]]<br />
[[Category:E59]]<br />
[[Category:E71]]<br />
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