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At first – '''How to get to Finland'''. There are three ways, how to get there. Unfortunately, most of Finland border are with Russia and with Baltic sea. The traveling through Russia is not free or easily possible. You need visa. Visa to Russia cost around Eur 50-100 and it can be difficult with office. So there is no way (hitchhiking, bus, train) through Tallin-Saint Petersburg – Helsinki. There is ferry between Tallinn and Helsinki, it is not so long journey and the price begins from Eur 12 for walkers and they write down ID. You can try to sneek on ferry between people (a lot of people are there in Friday and Sunday) or you can be hidden in someone's car. Getting from Poland to Tallin is relative long journey, but a lot of truck goes there. No train is on this way and hitchhiking between Poland and Estonia is sometimes good, but sometimes bad. Hitchhiking in Poland is easy and there are not so many trains in Poland.
'''Second journey''' is from Stockholm to Finland by ferry. There are two ferry companies – ''Silja Line'' and ''Viking Line''. Journey from Stockholm to Turku takes 11 hours and there is plenty small islands around. The daily ferry (Silja line) stops in Aaland isnand. The night line from Stockholm to Turku goes at 7pm and arrives at 7am (Finland has 1 hour more than Sweden). But the night line cost around Eur 60-75. The ferry to Helsinki leaves around 4pm, but it cost around Eur 80 and sneeking is difficult. Day line (Silja Line) leaves Stockholm at 7am and arrives to Turku at 7pm. Day line cost around Eur 12-17, usually Eur 15. You can try to buy ticket only to '''Aaland- Mariehamn''' island, but it is only few Euros difference. Nobody checkinkg tickets on the ship or during getting of in Turku-Stockholm, they check it only during boarding. Sneeking on ferry is quite difficult. You can ty try to go through exit way, but it is difficult, or you can try to sneek inside gate behind somebody, but it is really not easy. The most easy way is to be hidden in someone's car. There are travelling traveling some Hippie people with car too. Inside ship – you can put luggages into locked cage at begin of journey. There is Cafe In 6th floor. Some guests leaves leftovers, but not so many. Only something during afternoon and nothing at Morning. There is buffet one floor more for breakfast and lunch. You can try to sneek there, when the workers does not watch.
If you go by '''ferry at morning''', there is no good place, where to be until Morning in Stockholm. Ferry leaves around 7am, so it is not possible to sleep out of the Stockholm, because you have not enough time to arrive to Terminal. Ferry terminal close around 8pm and you can wait in Stockholm central station, but it close around 0:30. There is McDonald shitty restaurant, but they do not like waiting people during night and they sometimes kicks them out. Anyway, McDonald shitty restaurant closes at 2am. You have to wait outside until 3:15am, when bus terminal open (it is close to central station, upstairs). Then subway in Stockholm (you need to sneek through grates) is open from 5am and close around 1 am. Terminal for ferry opens at 5am too. There is park with bench and noisy road close to ferry terminal and you can sleep there. But there are drunken and strange people during night – you can hide more between bushes.
When the ferry comes to Turku (Abo) Hamm, there are two IC trains close to Ferry. One to Tampere and One to Helsinki. Second floor is pretty empty and you can hide there in toilet (PeterOB was sitting like during shitting without locked door). Conductor probably check tickets just one time after Turku and there is almost nobody going to train. These trains are last, if you will be kicked out,next train goes tomorrow. But if you already get to Karjaa (Karis), there is commuter train to Helsinki without checking.
Another ferry is '''between Umea (SE) and Vaasa (FI)''. ' and another ferry with longer journy is '''between Sundsvall (SE) and Vaasa (FI)''' There are lot of trains ''from Stockholm to Gavle, Hudiksvall, Sundsvall ('''SJ Snabbstaab''' and long journey '''SJ IC''', '''Nattaget''' to north)''. Some '''SJ Snabbstaag''' trains ''continue to Umea too''. Local trains ('''Norrtaag, X-Taget''') has more stops. PetterOB does not know info about ferry between Vassa and Umea (pricing, sneeking, leftovers in restaurants and departure times).
'''Third journey to Finland''' is around Baltic see, in the north. Nordic Journey''' There are plenty trains from Stockholm to Gavle, Hudiksvall, Sundsvall, a lot of high-speed dance floors ('''SJ Snabbstaag) ''' and long journey trains ('''SJ IC''', '''SJ Nattaget''', '''Arctic circle train'''). Some SJ Snabbstaag goes more north to Umea and there are '''SJ IC, SJ Orviga , SJ Nattaget (night train) ''' and local '''Norrtaag ''' from Umea to Boden and Lulea. The trains from Sundsvall to Umea are not so often (local trains have more stops). From Umea to Boden goes Norrtaag local train and SJ IC (Arctic circle train) and night train SJ Nattaget. From Boden to Lulea it is only one or two stops (some trains with three stops ?)
There is '''road around Baltic sea''' from ''Lulea (SE) to Tornio (FI), Kemi (FI), Oulu (FI)''. But Petter does not know difficult is hitchiking hitchhiking there and how many cars are there. '''There is no train from Lulea (SE) to Finland''', but only bus (you can try cash trick). Tornio (do not exchange Tornio and Tervolta station, it is not the same town) is close to SE-FI border. First train station is Kemi (trains in Tornio are pretty rare). It is one stop and 58 min from Kemi to Ouluby all IC or Ex trains. There is once a 3-4 hours dance floor from Kemi to north-east with only 3 stops, stops are ''(Oulu (Uleaborg) – Kemi – Tervola - Muurola – Rovaniemi)''. Night dance floor IC 265 is with fewest stops and it goes even further (Oulu (Uleaborg) 4:50-4:57, Kemi 6:03-6:07, Rovaniemi 7:28-7:40, Misi 8:16-8:17, Kemijärvi 8:45), by idos.cz - only one train per day – IC265 goes from Rovaniemi to Misi and Kemijärvi. There is most north dancing line in Finland by border with Sweden to Kolari. But trains there are quite rare, if any. Another dancing line, which cross Arctic Circle, is from Kemi to Rovaniemi and Kemijärvi. Arctic circle is in north part of Rovaniemi. Once a 1-2 hours runs quite fast IC or Pendolino dance floor between Helsinki – Tampere – Oulu. Some IC has two floors (easy to hide is second floor toilet) and some faster IC and Pendolinos has only one floor. Pendolinos are marked like green S2 at idos.cz
'''The north journey by train and hitchhiking''' is nice in Summer with never-ending daylight. But there are a lot of Mosquitoes. The situation in winter is terrible. The Swedish dancing line Stockholm-Lulea is better, most of stations has waiting room, but waiting room is closed during night (no waiting room in some small stations with local trains). Many of stations in Finland are without waiting room. You can wait few hours for next train or longer during night (and next train can get echo from previous one). On the road from Sweden to Finland can be with almost no cars and a lot of snow. The winter temperature can be here -30 or even -40. Here – the death during exam in case that you fail is real treat in winter time.
'''Blue-Black dancing (taking trains for free) is relative easy in Finland, it is super easy in region around Helsinki.''' There are a lot of commuter city trains around Helsinki. These trains goes every 10-30 minutes usually. Commuter city trains around Helsinki are marked as blue R-trains at wwwidos.cz resp. jizdnirady.idosidnes.cz /vlaky/spojeni/, and they are marked many letters (K,P,R,D and many others) by wr.fi or in Helsinki map, departure table. Commuter trains are little faster and it does not stops in all stops (K train, R train and D or Z train is with fewest stop).  You can find '''some info about train connections and pricing''' at '''vr.fi''' The '''map of dancing lines in Finland an information about trains, locomotives, stops''' are at English Wikipedia. '''en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR_Group''' it is quite big portal at Wikipedia. And you can find '''train connections with all stops''' in Finland and whole Europe at '''jizdnirady.idnes.cz/vlaky/spojeni/'''
'''Commuter dance floors around Helsinki are pretty easy.''' There are conductors usually around middle of train, in ticket selling zone. They just sell the tickets if somebody wants, and they does not check it. Sometimes – they walk through whole train, if somebody want to buy ticket (they does not check). The area, where tickets selling is not common (and conductors are not so often there) is market by red line through tickets, there are conductors less often.
'''Sometimes, the ticket inspectors go into commuter trains'''. They have uniform and they are in group on platform, but PetterOB haven't seen them yet. They starts usually from end (or begin) of the wagon. There are usually quite lot of people in train and next stops is only few minutes away (usually 2-6minutes, in some faster commuter trains up to 10-20 minutes). So you can get off in next station usually (or you can try to tell that you are waiting for conductor to buy ticket). The penalty is Eur 80 plus ticket price, but they can more probably just let be non-Finish residents.
The Helsinki central station can be more difficult after 10pm. There is only one entrance and they check tickets on this entrance in night, before getting to train. But the near station (it is possible to get there by tram) is Pasila-Bole. All trains goes through Pasila-Bole and stops there. There are two entrances (on every side) in Passila Pasila Bole, or it is possible to cross fence and tracks, but it is dangerous. The second entrance on the another end of platforms, than waiting room, and it is always free.
Trams are easy in Helsinki, just get in like into commuter train. There are sometimes ticket inspectors too, with uniforms. The penalty is the same Eur 80. Buses in Helsinki are more difficult, you have to show thicket during boarding. But two buses are with lot of people and without checking during boarding – there can be sometimes inspectors too. In another cities, like Tampere, Turku, are buses too. But there is ticket checking during boarding. The city commuter trains are probably only around Helsinki and between Helsinki-Tampere. Another commuter train around Tampere is planned. Commuter trains around Helsinki go 90-120kph, distance between stops is not so long.
There are a lot of good dancing network of commuter city trains on dancing line ('''Helsinki - Pasila Böle – Leppävaara – Kirkkonummi'''), it is relative far to Kirkkonummi for city commuter dance floors. IC dance floors or Pendolinos (with three numbers) from-to Turku has not so many stops - ''(Helsinki - Pasila Böle – Leppävaara - (Kirkkonummi) – Karjaa Karis – Salo - Kupittaa – Turku Abo)'' and some IC trains begins-ends one more stop in Turku Abo Hamm, harbour for ferry (from Turku Abo Hamn 8:10 and 20:20). If you travel from Turku to Helsinki, you need to survive in IC train until Kirkkonummi or Leppävaara, ICs almost do not stop in Kirkkonummi, only IC from Turku 20:20 and 17:17, IC from Helsinki 5:17 and 6:27 stops there.
There are lot of commuter dance floors in direction '''(Helsinki - Pasila Böle – Tikkurila – Kerava (Kervo) – Jokela - Riihimäki)''' It is direction to ''Tampere'' – second largest city in Finland. A lot of commuter dance floors goes to this direction, but the stops are various. Some commuter trains stops in all stops, come commuter trains stops ''Helsinki - Pasila Böle – Tikkurila – Kerava (Kervo)'', and every stop between ''Kerava and Riihimäki''. Z and D train is with fewest stops. The '''region Helsinki - Kerava (Kervo)''' is more like violet city region on map with really plenty of trains, and '''Kerava (Kervo) - Riihimäki''' is green region close to city on the map. Pretty many people travel between Helsinki and Kerava (Kervo) and not so many people between Kerava (Kervo) and Riihimäki (it is green region in map). It is more far zone and probability of ticket inspection is bigger here. Still quite a lot commuter trains goes between between Kerava (Kervo) and Riihimäki. There are no waiting rooms in most of the stations. Commuter trains around Helsinki can go up to 120kph.
There are commuter dance floors on journey '''Helsinki - Pasila Böle – Tikkurila - Kerava (Kervo) - Lahti (Lahtis)''' once a 60 min between and Kerava (Kervo) - Lahti (Lahtis) and every 10 min between Helsinki and Kerava (Kervo). Commuter Dance floor to Lahti does not stop so much, stops are ''(Helsinki - Pasila (Böle) - Tikkurila - Kerava (Kervo) - Haarajoki - Mäntsälä - Lahti (Lahtis))'' It is 61 minutes from Helsinki to Lahti with commuter train. IC trains and Pendolinos does not stop between Tikkurila and Lahti.
The '''R train''' in platform departure table (all commuter trains are R at idos.cz) consist of three trains together for lot of people and it goes to Riihimäki and R-train stops in all stations after Kerava (Kervo). But the first part of this R-train continue like city train '''from Riihimäki to Tampere''' after 5 min waiting in Riihimäki. This commuter dance floor stops at all stops between Riihimäki and Tampere and interval to next R commuter train train is 2 hours. This commuter R train is like two R trains with different numbers at idos.cz (from Helsinki to Riihimäki and from Riihimäki to Tampere). The ticket selling area is in the middle of train and sometimes conductor walk through whole train. And there was in monitor one time that ticket for area range will be checked and conductor just came and he checked only people with zone ticket – only few people in the wagon. Peter just sat calmly, like he ticket has, it works usually here. Conductor checks and sells tickets just for people that want check or buy one, it look. But the inspetion can be here too. PeterOB was searching for toilet in this train, but he did not find WC in this train (no possible to hide there ?).
'''The two-number IC dance floors''' (green IC with two numbers at idos.cz and IC with two numbers at wr.fi) runs long journeys with not so many stops (less stops than three-number IC, especially between Helsinki and Tampere). The journey is often from Helsinki to north or back from north to Helsinki. These dance floors have sometimes two floors with restaurant and conductors in the middle (lower wagon). The situation is the same, like in three-number IC dance floors. Most of passengers are at first floor and second floor is quite empty, and second floor toilet is calm. Conductor goes usually after bigger city, usually after last station, that is close to bigger city. Two-numbers IC have much less stops – few stops in Helsinki region ''(Helsinki - Pasila (Böle) - Tikkurila - Tampere (Tammerfors) - ….. far north)''. As you can see – there are three stops in Helsinki region with plenty of city trains and there is no stop between ''Tikkurila – Tampere''. But conductors have a lot of time and they check tickets after bigger city.
Two-floors IC dance floors (two or three numbers) has maximum speed 200 kmh. There are IC dance floors with two numbers and one floor only. These But IC dance floors with one floor only can probably not run more than 200 kmh kph, but only 140-160 kph. Pendolinos can run 220 kph with tilting. and they go for long journey. This type of train is at idos.cz or vr.fi marked the same like two-floors IC and you probably can not recognize it. One floor IC dance floors goes even far north behind Oulu, like IC27 to Rovaniemi.
'''Some dance floors are Pendolinos.''' Pendolino is high-speed train from Italy and it has difficulties sometimes during Finish winter. Pendolinos are marked like green S2 at idos.cz and like Pendolino at wr.if. Pendolino looks the same like one-floor IC. Pendolinos are with three numbers and they stops in the same stops, like three number IC and tey are usually with the same speed, like three-number IC. Two-number Pendolinos stops in the same stops, like two-number IC. But the Pendolinos are more quick. Maximum speed for two-floor IC is 200 kph, but Pendolino with tilting can go faster, up to 220 kph. Commuter trains around Helsinki can go up to 120kph.
The price is usually the same for IC or Pendolino, but of course, it is much easier to hide in second floor. Quite a lot of passengers goes to toilet at first floor. And Pendolino has only one floor, not empty toilets in second floor. More passengers are going to toilet. And you can run so easily around conductor in another floor and go to area, where tickets was already checked.
'''Helsinki – St. Petersburg – (Moscow)'''
There is international train (with reservation obligatory) between Helsinki (Finland) and St. Petersburg (Russia). It is '''Allegro''' fast train with only floor, it looks like Pendolino (green '''AE''' or red '''INT''' at idos.cz). This train even does not stop at Pasila (Böle). This train belongs to Finish Company vr.fi too. There are 4 trains per day in both directions St. Petersburk – Helsinki. Journey takes 3:27 hours. From Helsinki to St. Petersburg all stations in Finland are for boarding only and all stations in Russia are only for getting off. From St. Petersburg to Helsinki all stations in Russia are for boarding only and all stations in Russia are only for getting off. Trains are at idos.cz like green AE and at least first train from Helsinki AE 782 is marked too like red INT 782 with all stations for boarding and getting off. Vainikkala is the small village on border, there is border crossing FI-RU.
And of course, there is quite hart checking by border or it can be any time during journey. Not ticket checking, but passports and Visa checking, or if you smuggle something. And ticket checking can be hard too. You need visa to Russia and you have to know, where you go before. Visa can cost Eur 50-100 and it tan be difficult with offices to get visa.
These trains are by Russian train company.  Stops are always the same: ''(Helsinki FI, Tikkurila FI, Lahti (Lahtis) FI, Kouvola FI, Vainikkala FI-RU border crossing, Viipuri (Vyborg) RU, St Petersburg Finlya RU)''.
'''From Helsinki to St. Petersburg''' - ''INT 782 RED/AE 782 GREEN (Helsinki 7:20 - St Petersburg Finlya 10:47), INT 784 RED/AE 784 GREEN (Helsinki 11:00 - St Petersburg Finlya 14:27), INT 786 RED/AE 786 GREEN (Helsinki 16:00 - St Petersburg Finlya 19:27), INT 788 RED/AE 788 GREEN (Helsinki 20:00 - St Petersburg Finlya 23:27)''.
There is once a day in one direction night train (green NZ ''N'''Z at idos.cz) '''between Helsinki and Moscow'''. These trains are with beds and maybe with seats too. These trains does tot stops so much between St. Petersburg and Moscow (only one station '''Tver'''). But of course, you need this visa and checking visa, passports or if you smuggle something, it is probably hard. And ticket checking can be hard too. These trains are by Russian train company. Vainikkala is the small village on border, there is border crossing FI-RU. Night trains (NZ 30 and NZ 31) stops at another St. Petersburg platform St Petersburg Ladogskii, but trains INT-AE during day start-end at St Petersburg Finlya.
Trains NZ 31 and NZ 32 between Helsinki and Moscow belongs Russian train company RŽD; Novaya Basmannaya 2, 107174 Moscow, Russia . Journey takes 14:32 hours from Helsinki to Moscow and 14:27 hours from Moscow to Helsinki. NZ 31 and NZ 32 stops at Pasila (Böle) and Tikkurila.
NZ 31 Night Train
(Moskva Oktiabrskaia 23:10, Tver 1:10-1:11, St Petersburg Ladogskii 5:46-6:01, Viipuri (Vyborg) 7:54-8:34, Buslovskaja 8:56-9:06, Vainikkala 9:14-10:14, Kouvola 11:09-11:11, Lahti(Lahtis) 11:58-12:00, Tikkurila 12:53-12:54, Pasila (Böle) 13:29-13:31, Helsinki 13:37)
'''DEATH BY EXAM'''
'''Only really big trains stations in big cities has waiting room with heating. Most of stations with commuter city trains around Helsinki and even most of stations with IC trains (even sometimes two-number ICs) are without waiting room.''' And waiting rooms in big stations are probably closed during night. There are quite lot of IC trains between Turku-Helsinki, Helsinki-Lahti or Helsinki-Tampere. The next train goes after one of two hours. But between Pori-Tampere or Tampere Turku is time to next train already 3-4 hours. Between Kouvola-Kuopio or Kouvola-Joensuu, is time to next train 3-4 hours. On the line Tampere-Vaasa-Seinäjoki -Oulu is time to next train 2-4 hours, not all trains stops in all stops. Between Kuopion and Oulu is time time to next train around 4 hours, there are around 3-4 trains per day. But not all trains stops in all stops. Between Oulu and Rovaniemi is interval to next train 3-4 hours and there is only one train per day in one direction between Rovaniemi and Kemjäarvi. Trains between Kemi and Kolari are really rare. Night trains goes only Helsinki-Tampere-Oulu-Rovaniemi, two trains per night in one direction. If you are kicked out from last train, then text train will go at morning.
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