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2009-09-12T18:01:24Z

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What ideas do you have for [[789]], the upcoming second European Hitchhiking Week/ Event/ Gathering? Click [http://www.hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=888/Evalutation&action=edit edit] and share your thoughts. If you [http://www.hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup&returnto=Main_Page create a profile], you can sign your messages by clicking on the second icon from the right.

==european hitchhiking thing==
At the 789 meeting there was the idea to found a sort of ''European Hitchhiking Association'' / umbrella thing, to connect the different hitchhiking clubs and to spread the word about meetings, races, events, etc. around hitchhiking and it's equivalents.

Here is some brainstorming about names for the thing, everybody is more than welcome to add his ideas, comments, suggestions, and so on...

'''Before submitting an idea, check if the domain is available!'''
On linux, open a console and use "whois". Example: whois hitchmybitch.eu
On other OS, use a website that does it for you. http://www.whois.net/ for example.

I put up those that got some comments. --[[User:Sitarane|Sitarane]]

*** OFFICIAL INFORMATION :
For the moment european statut association doesn't exist cause there is too much different rights and laws in all countries. They work on it for 20 years but nothing have been approve...However, it's possible to create a federation in one country and put all association like hh clubs in. But it will working with the law of this country, not two, not three and it's registered in one place. Federation system is the same system of association, it cost 30€ in France.--[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 07:41, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

===Name suggestion for the federation's website===

* hhfed.org
** Then we can have eu.hhfed.org for Europe and leave the space for other to step it. (af.hhfed.org, as.hhfed.org, am.hhfed wuhu!). The fact that the main domain does not contain any locale (it would for euhhfed.org) doesn't restrict it to a place. It can be extended later. It would be sad to limit the initiative from the start. Though I understand that we should start with just Europe, it would be nice to leave the door open.
* The Federation of European Hitchhikers
** I gave my reasons in the email, but I think it would be a big mistake to give it a name which obscures its purpose for not-very-intelligent members of the media or bureaucrats. Domain name would be eurohitch.org [[User:Somewhatofftheway|Somewhatofftheway]] 17:02, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
** I don't like the fact that the localisation (Europe) is in the root domain. Plus I don't like the fact that it's in english. Half Europe has Russian as at least a second language. That's why I favour something in a neutral language like esperanto. An acceptable solution would be to have two urls for the website. This one for the english speakers, and another one for the russian speaker (solution that I still find inferior to an esperanto name). Or to have 3 urls, the main one being the esperanto one. Other than that, I love it --[[User:Sitarane|Sitarane]]
: '''"eurohitch.org" is taken... By us already'''
** Not really democratic, but the name he's quiet cool, I'm for it --[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 07:42, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
** I wasn't trying to preempt the discussion, I just have had too many times where when the discussion was finished it was taken. Plus, I get them cheap and I can actually return it for a refund within a certain period of time I think, so that's why! [[Special:Contributions/83.67.147.131|83.67.147.131]] 18:01, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
* pick-up
** I like that --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 18:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
** Love it! --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 15:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
** They are taken because of the sexual meaning... non starter for me just because of that [[User:Somewhatofftheway|Somewhatofftheway]] 17:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
** True, sexual meaning. Bad --[[User:Sitarane|Sitarane]]
:'''"pick-up.eu" and "pickup.eu" are taken'''
* trampi (esperanto for ''hitchhiker'')
** I like that. Close to "tramper" (hher) and "trampen"(to hh) in german and to "tramp" in english (which might be a bad association). --[[User:Sitarane|Sitarane]]
** no way ;) --[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 07:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:'''"trampi.eu" is free'''
* survoje (esperanto for ''on the way'')
** Sounds somewhat strange but interesting. I like having something in Esperanto --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 18:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
** could be associated with ''survive'' :) --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 15:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
: '''"survoje.eu" is free'''
* blaffen (danish for ''hitchhiking'')
** sounds funny --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 15:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
** why dannish ? think to communication if we choose a name like that, nobody will care about or remember...--[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 07:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
** thats so cool, i like this. why don't call the 2010 789 thing ''blaffen fest'' --[[User:Quarim|Quarim]] 07:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
** In french "baffe" is "a strong slap accross your face" --[[User:Sitarane|Sitarane]]
* petveturado (esperanto for ''hitchhiking'')
** sounds like some veterinary thing --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 15:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
** idem --[[User:Sitarane|Sitarane]]
* polesku ( esperanto for ''thumb'')
** Sounds like something polish --[[User:Sitarane|Sitarane]]
* jump in
* petvet
* peti
* unterwegs (german for sth. like ''along the way'')
* dumvoje (esperanto for ''unterwegs'')
* thumb up
* Kuda ( russian for ''where'')
* i prefer any translation for 'Autostop', for that is what we are doing. Better to have 5000 translations(and domains) than one not many have understood, yes? But it doesnt matter what i say, i cannot participate in next years event. So "Do As Thou Will, Shall Be The Whole Ov The Law" vi ses, r3353
* MORE IDEAS? Feel free to comment on the ideas

== Postcards ==
As an answer to what some might say: 'no one takes hitchhikers any more' or 'no more hitchhikers', it might be a good idea, proposes [[User:Mirto|Mirto]], to collect the addresses of your drivers and to send them a (common?) postcard after the event. Like many people who hitched to [[789]] send a card to at least one driver with link to result page - so drivers can also feel how important it is and that they participated in this and that THEY actually made it happen.

> You might then develop simple forms with a 789 symbol, address of organisation, slogan or something like this, that all the drivers can fill out. That's certainly more trustworthy than a shabby piece of paper to write out those private data. It's a nice idea which may encourage especially those drivers to pick up hitchhikers more often, if they have the possibility. Encourage the hitchhikers to collec the addresses and let the hitchhikers pay for the postage and print costs at 789. --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] 11:34, 15 August 2008 (CEST)
:Photogallery with portraits of many many drivers ??

i agree with both the above options. But its easy for us cute, friendly-looking Hitch hikers to convince a random stranger to give up personal information. There may be some 'un-savory' looking-types who are getting a "pity" ride, and to dig into the drivers personal life may be contrived as an affront to an already open person. So having a form we all can print and give away freely to drivers(with logo and organizations address[where ever that may be] might soothe over any body odor we have. And continue this fine tradition ov exchange. r3353

Or, we make a list of all of drivers names so to make huge, global list with all of them - so we would just SEE/Show to the world how many helpful people are around here.

== Slogan ==

Idea for a 789 slogan? [[789/Slogan|There]]

i thought '789-the road is mine' was near acceptable, but too ego-centric. So therefore i vote "789, begins the line" As we are all coming from somewhere to a specific destination for a specific reason. r3353

== Magazine ==
[[Robino]] wants to put some effort together to set up a hitchhikers magazine, to be distributed at this event. There is already some work done for a [[Hitchhiking Zine]], so we could take that idea some steps up.
:I'm interested in helping setting up this zine :) [[User:platschi|platschi]]<small><sup>[http://blogs.hitchwiki.org/platschi site], [[User talk:platschi|wikitalk]]</sup></small> 09:14, 14 August 2008 (CEST)

The magazine idea is very much in progress. Most articles have been written. You can find more info here on the [[Random Roads]]-section. We want to put quite some 888/ 789 info in it as well. The launch, 'zero' issue is due for January 2009. Join in! --[[User:Robino|Robino]] 23:20, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
: still in progress :) planning to have it released before 789. Need some editors to correct articles. Get in touch with [[User:Robino|Robino]] 17:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== Movie Project ==

* The documentary project of the 888 project have been presented to some people at the cannes festival [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJj1oWlVJTY SEE THE TEASER THERE]
* La Sophiste is editing two little reports about 789
* It can be very cool to explain hitchhiking by an other view, like don't make a documentary but a fiction or a compromit between those two things [[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 09:17, 25 August 2008 (CEST)

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2009-09-10T16:36:04Z

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=== STORY ===

A small group of enthusiastic travelers had decided to organize the first European Hitch-hiking Week.

The aim was to give one location and one time for a rally, and broadcast it to all the hitch-hikers of the world. The place was decided to be the "Champs de Mars" in front of the Eiffel Tower in Paris, France; and the time 10pm on the 08/08/08, hence the name of "Project 888".

150 people showed up from all around Europe and stayed for the 3 days week-end. It was a very intense time of exchange, smiles, and french wine.

2008 : The [[Project 888|888 project]] On ''' 08/08/08''' , hitchhikers from all over the world converged to Paris, for the first european hitchiking week.
**[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJj1oWlVJTY See the trailer of the documentary project]
**[http://www.flickr.com/groups/paris-888/pool/ Some pics there].

2009 : The [http://www.the789project.com/ 789 project]. On '''07/08/09''', Hitchikers meet again in [[Odessa]] in [[Ukraine]], [[Eastern Europe]] .

2010 : Let's choose a new destination ! Helsinki ? Moscou ? Where ever you want ! Just some importants things have to been said :
** We need to pick a place where many people can come without visas and where we have a local organizer.
** The necessity of having a local coordinator/support, like an HH club can be the best.

=== PHILOSOPHY ===
From the 888 to the 789, hitchikers think that the event is more to promote the concept of Hitch-hiking rather than to all meet up somewhere and have a good time and just drink. This is why the proposal of meeting outside a city was ruled out: we want to be seen by strangers and make some actions in the city ; for example at the 789 in Odessa, we have done a flashmobs about hitchiking to somewhere special and next try to get a lift to the event's place.

===New fancy name for 2010?===
On 789, there has been a discussion on the future name of the 789 festival/project/meeting/week. There have been lots of pro's and con's about changing the name each year (888->789->6810?) or using an uniform name for the festival/meeting/project/week in the next years. Please brainstorm here and add your ideas :-)

* Hitchfest
* 6/8/10
* The Road Festival
* Ride Festival
* Wind Festival
* Thumbs up!
* Thumbs out!
** What is original ? 888 or 789 was interesting but there, I don't understand...--[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 08:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
* ''European hitchhiking week 2010''
** It was the second title every year and also it's too burocratic--[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 08:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
** There are lots of important issues such as choosing destination and coordinating things with the locals in order to avoid what happened in Odessa. Why would we focus on the name so much ? --[[User:Patrishnik|Patrishnik]] 15:57, 01 September 2009 (UTC)
** the name represent the identity of the organisation, it bring you motivation and enjoying the project, let's find a nice one. --[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 21:31, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
** ''European hitchhiking week 2010'' sounds good --[[User:Patrishnik|Patrishnik]] 15:36, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
** That's claiming something we aren't. We don't speak for all the hh clubs in Europe, much less for all the hitchhikers. We just speak for a crazy bunch of people that has been meeting annually for only just 2 years. [[User:blue|blue]]
** I totaly agree, one stone by one, be patient, maybe one day It can become a federation, but not now --[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 07:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

=== DESTINATION ===
* ''' [[Kaunas]], [[Lithuania]]'''
** + Keliaivis hitchiking club is operating there
** + Cheap country
** - Russian, Belarus, Ukrainian & Moldovan people need a visa

* '''[[Chişinău]], [[Moldova]]'''
** + Cheap country
** + Russian, Belarus, Ukrainian & Moldovan people don't need visa
** - No HH club
** - the same corner as 789 was

* '''[[Gent]], [[Belgium]]'''
** + There is a belgish hitchhiking community
** + It is very central so more people will come
** - Russian, Belarus, Ukrainian & Moldovan people need a visa

* '''[[Rügen]], [[Germany]]'''
** + very nice countryside
** + german hitchhiking club
** + It is very central so more people will come
** - Russian, Belarus, Ukrainian & Moldovan people need a visa
** - no big town available

* '''somewhere in the lakes of [[Finland]]'''
** + There is a finnish hitchhiking community
** + free camping
** + very nice countryside
** - Russian, Belarus, Ukrainian & Moldovan people need a visa, but not far from [[Russia]]
** - Rectum of the world

* '''[[Sarajevo]], [[Bosnia and Herzegovina]]'''
** + cheap country
** - no hitchhiking club

* '''[[Münster]], [[North Rhine-Westphalia]], [[Germany]]'''
** + beautiful city, huge countryside around, easy to reach
** + hh club available (German [[Abgefahren e.V.]])
** + good highway connections
** + bicycle capital of Germany

Please feel free to add your ideas and help organizing the third hitchhiking European week.

[http://www.the789project.com/ OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF THE ORGANISATION OF THE THIRD HITCHHIKING WEEK]

===TASK LIST===

* '''We need a better coordination this year and we can't do it without hh clubs, so contact hh clubs to inform them that their cities can be elected to be the town of the new edition'''
** will ask at german hh meeting this weekend & maybe there will a destination proposal from germany/abgefahren e.v. --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 12:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
** who can make a news report of what happen on 789 mixing with a kind of invitation to participate for hh clubs ? --[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 10:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
* '''Put videos report, news paper on the official website'''
** We are editing the two tv reports, who can put the two others on the website main pages ? --[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 10:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
* '''Create a europeean association for the project (not so easy) > More credibility'''
** I will see what I can do for that in bruxelles (Belgium) --[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 10:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
** we need some name for it as well as some sort of website, what about using hitchwiki ressources for it? --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 12:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
** start moderated mailing list of the assc., but maybe first the name for it --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 12:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
* '''Shut down one interface, google group is really bad process for work together'''
** we loose time and we loose people, hitchwiki is our house, who is agree ? --[[User:Terrehappy|MiSha]] 10:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
** agree --[[User:Platschi|Platschi]] 12:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
** we won't go too far if we keep working using google groups, hitchwiki and the 789 website, let's settle here and start working --[[User:Patrishnik|Patrishnik]] 16:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
** disagree -- I check my email all day, to use a wiki one has to come and check it manually. Plus, the interface is not easy to use and the discussion is confusing. Much prefer just hitting reply! [[Special:Contributions/83.67.147.131|83.67.147.131]] 16:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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